Big Supes
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google probably wouldnt allow it. Or find a way to constantly break it.
Unfortunately, I have to agree . . .
EDIT: Vimeo could be a good place for MS to get Zune linked to videos.
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google probably wouldnt allow it. Or find a way to constantly break it.
I really don't understand the bitter hatred towards MS. Some people act like Bill Gates raped their granny! Sure, Vista was a load of crap, but apart from that, why all the hatred?
i am not going to argue with you but i completely disagree with everything you just said. ive only owned pc's and only problems ive had are them running slow because of lack of space. which is easily updated on a pc, buy more ram or a bigger hard drive. virus come from downloading crap or opening trojan mail. i mean c'mon it is common sense and thats what antiviruses are for. macs arent bullet proof. and they are completely over priced for what you get. are they nice? yes. are they smooth? yes. would i ever spend $2000 for a macbook pro?, **** no. not when i can build a screaming fast pc for half that. on that same note, would i spend 300 on a cheap dell laptop? **** no... as far as being condescended by windows techs, dont you think you are sterotyping a bit? if they talked down to you its not because all windows techs are that way... its because they were dousche bags, and could have easily worked for apple and had the same attitude. keep it real pronk
google probably wouldnt allow it. Or find a way to constantly break it.
I also think the notion that graphic design applications run better on the Mac is outdated now. A decently spec'd PC will give a designer plenty enough horsepower to do their work. OS X is an elegant system but the premium they charge is just too high for most people.
I also think the notion that graphic design applications run better on the Mac is outdated now. A decently spec'd PC will give a designer plenty enough horsepower to do their work. OS X is an elegant system but the premium they charge is just too high for most people.
And we're talking image - and when people think of MS, a lot of people are going to think of their office/school experience.
My Windows XP laptop crashed and wiped ALL my photos from a fantastic once in a lifetime holiday I'd had - after years of owning PCs that were obsolete in months and/or got virus infested, this was the last straw and desktop-wise I've been a Mac user ever since.
Well, here's my personal experience. I'm admittedly a convert to WP7 now, but I wouldn't touch Microsoft stuff for years for three reasons:
1. My Windows XP laptop crashed and wiped ALL my photos from a fantastic once in a lifetime holiday I'd had - after years of owning PCs that were obsolete in months and/or got virus infested, this was the last straw and desktop-wise I've been a Mac user ever since.
2. At work, I used to have to use XP on a crummy Dell every single day. I work in publishing, and have done for 15 years now, and I've probably lost months of time in total to MS Word random lockups and blue screens of death. And my experience is in no way unique.
3. I also had to deal with our IT department a lot. All Windows guys. All of them treated everyone with contempt and as if we were morons - again, not a unique situation. I've similarly been treated like crap by staff in PC World who assume the customer is always an idiot to be talked down to.
You know the worst stereotype geek? The one who thinks mac users are using toy computers because using a mac is too easy and straightforward and they don't regularly tweak their registry or have to sweep their systems for trojans? The one who thinks other windows users are all stupid and can't possibly know as much as them? That sort of guy?
That's what Microsoft have to get past. The image that they're a company run by such guys making products for such guys that they just happen to let the rest of us use too. For the average user, the effect of years of frustration with their products when they were substandard because their monopoly meant they didn't have to make any real effort coupled with years of having to deal with arrogant idiots to get it to work better won't disappear overnight. If you want to understand where MS went wrong, a quote from Bill Gates sums it up perfectly. When Steve Jobs first went back to Apple 15 or so years ago, Gates is quoted as saying "Why would he do that? He must know he can't possibly win." And now Apple are worth more than Microsoft because they didn't sit back and assume people would always just settle for "ok". WP7 is a lot better than OK, as is Windows 7, but they have a lot to do yet to prove they've learnt complacency is never a good business plan.
Again, just to point out here we're not just talking about me - I replied to give my personal experience of why I felt MS had a bad rep other than Vista in reply to a specific post, but the fact they DO have a bad rep is what this thread is all about. Some of it may be harsh, but some of it is deserved too. The drawback of their near monopoly in the late 90s and early 2000s is that almost everyone in an office or school or uni had to use a windows PC or nothing, and what they had to use wasn't always the best.
That's the thing about the Apple "Mac & PC" ads. They worked so well because for many, many people the PC character was exactly their historical experience with using Windows.