Veteran PM Kim Vorrath reportedly joins Apple’s new AI division to whip “AI and Siri into shape” — amid claims Apple Intelligence is 2 years behind...

[Windows Central]

Can Apple catch up in AI? A recent leak details how the firm is moving veteran staff around to try and help Siri catch up to ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot.

Veteran PM Kim Vorrath reportedly joins Apple’s new AI division to whip “AI and Siri into shape” — amid claims Apple Intelligence is 2 years behind... : Read more

 

[fjtorres5591]

Short answer: no, Apple will never catch up if their focus is chatbots.
Both MS and OpenAI are moving to SLMs, Agents, and embedded "AI" in desktop/server apps.

Chatbots are entry-level demos of the tech. The real value (and cash) is in the enterprise, embedded systems (military, especially), and software development. Gaming in particular for the latter. And Apple has essentially zero presence in those sectors.

Just like with ebooks, smart TVS and cars, Apple's MO of being close followers is leaving them on the outside looking in at a new tech industry sector.

People castigate MS for its minimal footprint in consumer products but Apple gets a free pass for being *limited* to the mass market. And only part of it at that as ebooks and video streaming have proved.

And even in phones they've plateaued and are at risk of degradation from their reliance on China. Much like Ballmer's MS the obsession with one market is blinding them to the newly emergent sectors.

Close followers can't cut it anymore; lead or get out of the way.

 

[FFR]

Don’t think Apple has anything to catch up on.

As far as I am aware they are the only tech company focused on an ai while protecting their users privacy.

 

[fjtorres5591]

Don’t think Apple has anything to catch up on.

As far as I am aware they are the only tech company focused on an ai while protecting their users privacy.

Easy to do when all you do is chat.
Let's see how far they get when PCs and online services unleash a horde of agents and self-optimizing predictive apps.

And user data is useless in the age of synthetic data.

If that is their selling point they really are two years back.

 

[FFR]

Easy to do when all you do is chat.
Let's see how far they get when PCs and online services unleash a horde of agents and self-optimizing predictive apps.

And user data is useless in the age of synthetic data.

If that is their selling point they really are two years back.

Easy to do? yet no one else is doing it .

User data and privacy is useless.

 

[fjtorres5591]

Easy to do? yet no one else is doing it .

User data and privacy is useless.

It is useless to Generative software, circa 2025.
That is why they're pivoting to synthetic data sets and focused SLMs.
If you don't know that, then fine.
Keep fighting the last war.

 

[FFR]

It is useless to Generative software, circa 2025.
That is why they're pivoting to synthetic data sets and focused SLMs.
If you don't know that, then fine.
Keep fighting the last war.

I see, first you said privacy focused on device ai that protects user data is easy to implement, but no one else did it. now it’s useless in 2025 due to synthetic data sets and small language models.