We have two platforms: Lumia and Windows Phone

[stmav]

Would there still be two platforms if the 920 was on every carrier?

 

[chevans920]

Only in non-US markets. In the most competitive and highest-revenue market for smartphones -- the USA -- Nokia remains well behind HTC in total device share.

A single market has nothing against a global market... Get your head out of your bum and think big picture.

I work for a global company and know there is much more revenue outside the US for just about anything! Businesses that want to succeed can no longer rely on us here in the states...

 

[CoolBeit]

Just wanted to respond to the "two platforms" part of this discussion:

This is a HUGE issue for android and it has not really affected them at all. There are tegra-only games, there is OS functionality exclusive to the galaxy line, and every oem has a tweaked version of android. This has done very little to affect android as a whole. Now, the problem with all these oem's not keeping their own platforms up to date is another issue altogether...

 

[Reeves]

What, exactly, is the huge "killer app" that is exclusive to Nokia devices that is supposed to produce this schism in the Windows Phone ecosystem?

Nokia Drive is being extended to all devices. Nokia Camera Extras are neat, but have features that are duplicated by other photo and photo editing apps in the Marketplace.

CNN is fine, but Associated Press is just as snazzy looking and also has a live tile. So does USA Today.

Bloomberg? Nah. Angry Birds "Roost"? Pffft. WP people are still looking for Angry Birds Space and soon Angry Birds Star Wars. StyleSaint? Groupon?

None of these are platform makers. Not a one.

 

[brmiller1976]

A single market has nothing against a global market... Get your head out of your bum and think big picture.

Nokia used the same thinking to ditch the US market years ago, leading them to their current financial crisis.

Sorry, but if you aren't a player in the most important market in the world for tech -- the USA -- then you aren't playing to win and won't be playing for long.

 

[Laura Knotek]

I don't think the "exclusive apps" will make a bit of difference in WP8.

The only "exclusive apps" I use in WP7.5 are Nokia Maps and Nokia Drive, which won't even be exclusive in WP8.

I've tried those other "exclusive apps", and I cannot even tell which ones they are, since I never use them.

 

[DungMasterFang]

Nokia used the same thinking to ditch the US market years ago, leading them to their current financial crisis.

Sorry, but if you aren't a player in the most important market in the world for tech -- the USA -- then you aren't playing to win and won't be playing for long.

WMPoweruser had an article in August that 32% of the WP7 devices were Nokia in the US. HTC was at 36%... Pretty good considering the head start HTC got.

 

[Laura Knotek]

WMPoweruser had an article in August that 32% of the WP7 devices were Nokia in the US. HTC was at 36%... Pretty good considering the head start HTC got.

To be honest, I never gave Windows Phone a second thought until CES 2012, when I saw the Nokia Lumia 900 and HTC Titan II.

I had been eligible for an upgrade since May 2011 and hung onto it, since I thought RIM would release BB10.

When BB10 didn't happen, and my old Blackberry became practically unusable due to lag at the same time that CES 2012 happened, I was determined to get a Windows Phone.

I was impressed by both the Lumia 900 and the Titan II. The only reason I chose the Lumia 900 was because of previous good experiences with Nokia devices (Symbian) and hearing about bad experiences with HTC's build quality from family and friends who had HTC Android devices.

Exclusive apps never entered the picture for me.

 

[Gaichuke]

Nokia used the same thinking to ditch the US market years ago, leading them to their current financial crisis.

And my bulls**t sense is tingling.

Downfall of Nokia had very little to do with "ditching" US market and you know it. The way you make it sound like it was the reason is misleading.