Will WP8 beat this?

[sinime]

Or cycling?

When she works, Siri can get to the music i want faster than going through iOS' music app.

Don't ask me how many times she has let me down while driving and trying to send a text.

I think siri's fundamental problem, is that she doesn't convert your speech to text or commands locally. I think she needs an Internet action to interpret your speech. And that's a 2 fold problem. 1) no Internet, no Siri. 2) and more importantly, the server that interprets for Siri has to be up and not clogged up to respond. The second actually seems to mess stuff up the most, cause you can have full bars and not have working Siri.

Edit: voice commands on a phone should be interpreted on the device and handled locally if at all possible, using the Internet only for obvious Internet required searches and non local things.

 

[eric12341]

while D R I V I N G . . . ?

You should have your playlist up and ready to go before driving.

 

[suvastallions]

While WP has been late to the OS race, it has the advantage of seeing what the race leaders are not doing right.

 

[Jazmac]

well. MS needs to catch up with voice commands. every where Google and IOS goes. MS follows the competition

I absolutely agree. I picked up the Nexus 7 last week out of curiosity of the OS, how it compares to my Amazon Fire and to see for myself how Jelly Bean stacks up. Anyway, I think Siri is a pretty fun distraction. I was able to get it running on my Ipad2 and its chill. On the Nexus 7, which I think is largely crap as a tablet, does have two shinning stars about it.

One is the screen. How they are able to keep fingerprints off the screen is amazing but the other is Google Now. It makes Siri look like it wears a training bra.

The natural voice of Google Now as well as the speed at which it returns answers is extraordinary. IMHO. I have yet to see anything from MS get close to what either of these technologies can do. Not yet. I'm not so sure MS feels any pressure to produce anything comparable to those technologies but you can be sure, once Windows Phone 8 drops and it has what it has now in terms of voice recognition, there will be much hand wringing why the software giant is unable or unwilling to compete. In spite of all Windows Phone 8 will be, it will be this that make the headlines.

 

[socialcarpet]

I'm a real WP fan and I didn't use an iPhone or a Android phone since more then a year. I just saw the following video and realized how much our os is behind the other two operating systems (threre are a lot more missing features like file type registrations, notification center, ...).

Siri vs. Google Search (Jelly Bean) - YouTube

Do you think WP8 will beat this?

Sure at some point I think Microsoft will be able to match or surpass that. In fact, I think we'll see them do it within the first year of WP8.

Microsoft actually had a big head start with TellMe, they just didn't really run with it.

I'm not that interested until they get it working nearly flawlessly.

I do use TellMe now to speed dial people, and that works perfectly. I use to for text messages too. But, that's about all I use it for though. No point in using it to not find stuff on Bing since Bing sucks. :lol:

 

[socialcarpet]

Siri is a gimmick,TellMe does everything any person should expect it to do, anything else is just show or pure laziness.

No, not really.

TellMe does the few things it does, well, but there are massive gaps in functionality. I can't dictate an email response to it, for just one example. It's nice that it will do texts though, I appreciate that. The search is useless though. If I ask for it to search something, of course it using Bing, which isn't nearly as useful as Google, the search results are rarely as relevant in Bing. Then when I get my irrelevant search results, I have read and scroll through them, TellMe can't read any information back to me. So basically that function is useless right now. Bing images is about the only part of Bing that is on par with Google. The rest sucks. Believe me I've given Bing a chance. I still do. When I need to search something on the phone, I will use Bing first almost every time because the button is right there, and because I really, really, REALLY want Bing not to suck. But it disappoints me 9 times out of 10.

Siri is far more advanced than TellMe is. When TellMe has NLP (natural language processing) as is depicted in that video, and the way Siri does now, then they'll be in the same league with one another. Right now it's not even close. TellMe feels like a last generation product compared to Siri, in fact that's exactly what it is.

I'm not too concerned though, because Siri is far from perfect too. Until these things are close to dead-accurate, I'm not that interested in using them much. I don't want to have to re-pronounce what I'm trying to say 4 times so the phone will understand. That doesn't save me time which is the whole point as far as I'm concerned.

I have faith though, I'm confident the next version of TellMe will have a lot more functionality built in. Hopefully by then Microsoft will also somehow have figured out how to turn those billions they are pouring into Bing into a search engine that can at least produce results that aren't embarrassingly bad compared to Google.

 

[eric12341]

No, not really.

TellMe does the few things it does, well, but there are massive gaps in functionality. I can't dictate an email response to it, for just one example. It's nice that it will do texts though, I appreciate that. The search is useless though. If I ask for it to search something, of course it using Bing, which isn't nearly as useful as Google, the search results are rarely as relevant in Bing. Then when I get my irrelevant search results, I have read and scroll through them, TellMe can't read any information back to me. So basically that function is useless right now. Bing images is about the only part of Bing that is on par with Google. The rest sucks. Believe me I've given Bing a chance. I still do. When I need to search something on the phone, I will use Bing first almost every time because the button is right there, and because I really, really, REALLY want Bing not to suck. But it disappoints me 9 times out of 10.

Siri is far more advanced than TellMe is. When TellMe has NLP (natural language processing) as is depicted in that video, and the way Siri does now, then they'll be in the same league with one another. Right now it's not even close. TellMe feels like a last generation product compared to Siri, in fact that's exactly what it is.

I'm not too concerned though, because Siri is far from perfect too. Until these things are close to dead-accurate, I'm not that interested in using them much. I don't want to have to re-pronounce what I'm trying to say 4 times so the phone will understand. That doesn't save me time which is the whole point as far as I'm concerned.

I have faith though, I'm confident the next version of TellMe will have a lot more functionality built in. Hopefully by then Microsoft will also somehow have figured out how to turn those billions they are pouring into Bing into a search engine that can at least produce results that aren't embarrassingly bad compared to Google.

Bing and google are equal to each other in results. Haven't you seen that blind search tool months ago?

 

[selfcreation]

did you see the Monday brief with the skit from RENEE (lead editor @ Imore.com) losing it on SIRI and really showing how much its FAR from being perfect..

classic, hehe made me ROLF pretty hard. oh and BTW.. SIRI IS over rated.... lol

Monday Brief: Editors-In-Chief Look Forward | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

skip to the 2min!!

 

[socialcarpet]

Bing and google are equal to each other in results. Haven't you seen that blind search tool months ago?

Nope.

Maybe Google has just info mined me so much it knows what I want, but the results I get with Bing are **** 75% of the time. It's also very annoying that the layout means you fit 2 or 3 results on the first screen on the phone.

 

[Winterfang]

I'm just tired of this. I'm not happy with neither of the OS, I like the main layout but I just hate everything else.

 

[eric12341]

I'm just tired of this. I'm not happy with neither of the OS, I like the main layout but I just hate everything else.

Then you aren't going to be satisfied with anything. The capabilities of the NT kernel ate endless.

 

[BlackSmythe]

Sorry, I disagree... the TellMe voice recognition is average at best. I consider myself to be a very well-spoken Australian (i.e. I don't sound like Crocodile Dundee or Steve Irwin) and it has a hard time understanding basic words.

For example "Call Mum" .... "Can't find that contact *unnecessarily pauses for 5 seconds and disconnects*" I repeat this process several times, drawling out mum to muuuuuuuuuuum, saying it at different volumes, holding the headset microphone closer or further away, and it still doesn't work. Then I put on a nasal american accent and say "Call Moooooooooooooooom" and finally (after at least 2-3 minutes of trying) it says, in it's female British accent, "Calling Mum" FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU >_< >_< >_<

The same thing with "Carl". If I say it like a normal person it doesn't understand. If I over-pronounce my r's like an American it eventually understands me. i.e. Carrrrrl

This had me laughing my *** off.

 

[Winterfang]

Then you aren't going to be satisfied with anything. The capabilities of the NT kernel ate endless.

I'm not, and is bumming me out. Android and IOS seemed to had max out now and there's so little news about Windows Phone. It's hard to get excited.

 

[eshy]

I'm a real WP fan and I didn't use an iPhone or a Android phone since more then a year. I just saw the following video and realized how much our os is behind the other two operating systems (threre are a lot more missing features like file type registrations, notification center, ...).

Siri vs. Google Search (Jelly Bean) - YouTube

Do you think WP8 will beat this?

Siri was a nice app, worked on my iphone 3G. Then Apple bought it, added almost nothing except for the home button short cut and made it available only on the 4S.
There's no reason why siri can't work on older phones, it was a PR move.

The Apple marketing team felt there's no good way to promote the iphone 4S. They can't create ads that just say it's faster than the previous model because even though it was true, the iphone 4 was fast enough for most users. so they used siri instead.
All 4S adds so far, in the year since it's release, were about siri.

I keep seeing articles comparing voice technologies to siri, usually, they show a lack of understanding about what siri is. Siri is an NLP app (Natural Language Processing). The voice recognition component is actually all Nuance, but once the recognized text is returned, the siri app figures out what you actually want based on what you said.

Other platforms (and ios before siri) were doing simple voice commands. You can say Text Name to send a text or Start App to start an app. but you usually can't say 'Is it raining?' instead you have to say 'show weather'
The problem with that is that most people don't know which commands they should use to do things and being able to ask any weather related question and get the weather app to show up is better for them. The downside is that only apps that were integrated with siri would work like that.

In Windows Phone 8, You will still have voice commands and not the 'assistant' model Apple has. The big difference will be the ability of 3rd party apps to be tied into the voice command service. Not just using the TellMe voice recognition but actually getting your app launched from the main voice command to respond to something the user wants and continue in a voice conversation with the user.

Is it better than siri? It's different. Those who would know how to use it will probably get more out of it. When WP8 apps start showing up using this feature it will be even better. The big question is will people be able to easily use this feature or will they not use it because they'll never learn which voice commands they can use.

 

[eshy]

I'm not, and is bumming me out. Android and IOS seemed to had max out now and there's so little news about Windows Phone. It's hard to get excited.

The news from the summit last month was big. Some of the APIs that will be available to developers are going to make WP8 the best platform. The problem is that it will be a while before developers can target just WP8.

The WP8 news were bigger than the ios 6 news (small features really and a crappy mapping service) or the android 4.1 news, and they didn't even get to the actual end-user features

 

[socialcarpet]

I'm not, and is bumming me out. Android and IOS seemed to had max out now and there's so little news about Windows Phone. It's hard to get excited.

The problem has nothing to do with phone OS's.

If you're looking for happiness out of a phone OS, your search is never going to end my friend.