10-22-2011 07:49 AM
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  1. theman60099's Avatar
    Hopefully they're something good. We don't need any more minimum spec phones.
    even tho that one person just said that his trophy outperforms the iPhone 4 u still have to complain about specs?

    I'd be happy if an HTC radar equivalent with beats audio or the HTC bresson went to sprint
    10-09-2011 03:35 PM
  2. palandri's Avatar
    I agree. That's why I just bought a used one off Ebay for 200.00. It is literally in like new condition and works great. When I know a better phone is coming, I will put it on Ebay and break even.
    Smart move! Ebay and Amazon are good place to look for phones.
    10-09-2011 04:14 PM
  3. thed's Avatar
    even tho that one person just said that his trophy outperforms the iPhone 4 u still have to complain about specs?
    I'm not really sure what the iPhone has to do with this. I never really liked their hardware anyway, the screen is too small for me.

    All I was saying is that I hope the newer phones are nicer. Personally I would love to have a bit bigger screen with SAMOLED or at least SLCD. I'm not trying to be a spec hater here. I love my trophy, but I don't see the point of releasing new phones with the same specs as the old ones. Everybody likes something different. Give us some new and interesting choices!

    Sent from my HTC Trophy using Board Express
    10-10-2011 02:14 AM
  4. gibbyhome's Avatar
    I agree, as soon as samsung or Nokia comes up with a WP on Sprint than I will switch back.
    My wife and kids are using the arrive but its to small for me and I dont want a keyboard.
    10-10-2011 01:04 PM
  5. astraith's Avatar
    First off, I am glad we have more choices coming soon. Both the Verizon Trophy and the HTC Arrive on Sprint are slow and underpowered choices for Windows Phones. I can't wait until we get HTC Titan and Nokia phones. Nokia's new designs like the N9 and Searay look really solid.

    I certainly wouldn't commit to two years with the trophy. It's good but not that good.

    Sent from my Windows 7 phone using Board Express
    I only upgraded to the HTC Arrive so I can get a new phone. Was using a BlackBerry Curve 8330. Next year I'll use my dad's early upgrade since he never uses his upgrades anyway to get a Nokia phone or Sprints HTC Titan.
    10-14-2011 09:58 PM
  6. scottcraft's Avatar
    First off, I am glad we have more choices coming soon. Both the Verizon Trophy and the HTC Arrive on Sprint are slow and underpowered choices for Windows Phones. I can't wait until we get HTC Titan and Nokia phones. Nokia's new designs like the N9 and Searay look really solid.
    I know the trophy isn't the top WP7, but if it is slow and underpowered compared to the AT&T offerings consider me impressed. It's pretty snappy and smooth to me. I think it is faster than all of Verizon's android phones.
    10-14-2011 11:52 PM
  7. smartpatrol's Avatar
    Every 1st-gen Windows phone has the same CPU and same RAM. It's kinda hard for any of them to be underpowered.
    10-15-2011 12:53 AM
  8. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    I know that if you just compare WP7 specs against Android specs, the WP7 phones seem to be lacking. But the WP7 phones just seem to work more efficiently. My wife's Trophy is smooth and quick with no lag or delays and the battery life is much better than her old Android HTC Incredible.

    The only odd issue I've discovered is in storage. I have an old BlackBerry and have a few music playlists and podcasts that I keep on my phone. When I changed to the Trophy briefly, the same files took up much more space on the Trophy than they did on the BlackBerry. And given that the storage space isn't expandable on the Trophy, this is annoying. I am hopeful the next generation of WP7 phones have either expandable storage (VERY doubtful) or offer 32GB versions. Fingers crossed!
    10-15-2011 10:51 AM
  9. jfa1's Avatar
    several of the 2nd gen phones have nand memory which is faster than sd card memory sppeds and ven though are usinmg 8 GN or 16 GB sizes the fact that they are using it means that have the abaility to use 32gb or 62 GB NAND memory and so the future looks good foir larger storage memory capacity.
    10-15-2011 01:55 PM
  10. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    several of the 2nd gen phones have nand memory which is faster than sd card memory sppeds and ven though are usinmg 8 GN or 16 GB sizes the fact that they are using it means that have the abaility to use 32gb or 62 GB NAND memory and so the future looks good foir larger storage memory capacity.
    Except that the current phones have the ability to use 32GB microSD cards now but none offer it. There are links on how to change out your 8 or 16GB microSD card for a 32GB cards on here, although it will void your warranty. Right now, I think the problem is that the OEMs and/or the carriers don't see enough demand to offer different storage levels ala the iPhone. I'm not encouraged.
    10-16-2011 09:57 AM
  11. palandri's Avatar
    ...Right now, I think the problem is that the OEMs and/or the carriers don't see enough demand to offer different storage levels ala the iPhone. I'm not encouraged.
    I think you're right. I could get by with 2GB of storage. i don't have that many songs or pictures to store.
    10-16-2011 10:00 AM
  12. Dusteater's Avatar
    16GB is plenty for me, especially if it keeps costs down.
    10-16-2011 11:07 AM
  13. snowmutt's Avatar
    Okay- so I am watching for the CDMA LG device, which I will call the Fantasy, to see where it goes. I am down to Verizon or staying on AT&T when our contract is up. We have had a standing problem on AT&T which I will not bore everyone with. We intend to give them one last shot to work it out. I would love for them to do it: I have my Wife sold on WP and the Titan or Focus S will get our business. If not, it is off to Verizon where I cannot live with the Trophy only due to my preference for a 4.3" or bigger screen for an all touch screen slab. Basically, I will grab a Droid 3 on the cheap and wait for Verizon to come out with a WP I like and buy it off contract. I would prefer for the Fantasy to show up and settle it early for me. I like LG as a match for WP- without worrying about a UI skin like is needed to compete on Android, they will only need good hardware. I think that will solve some of their issues with the buggy performance on some of their offerings. (Although I really, really liked the Thrill.) They so need a hit and CDMA needs WP support. It is a good fit.

    Sprint seems determined to just dump WP like it is WeBOS and destined to flop. Verizon's CEO had good words to say about WP, even predicting it will surpass RIM for the #3 OS. They also filed a support document against Apple's attempt to ban Samsung, showing they are not married to the iPhone. With over 100 million customers, Verizon is the more important of the two CDMA carriers to get a device on. (No offense, Sprint users.)That is why I feel Big Red has the better shot at picking up some good Microsoft offerings.

    Thoughts?
    10-17-2011 12:52 AM
  14. astraith's Avatar
    I know the trophy isn't the top WP7, but if it is slow and underpowered compared to the AT&T offerings consider me impressed. It's pretty snappy and smooth to me. I think it is faster than all of Verizon's android phones.
    Let me expand a little bit. The HTC Arrive works great. It's faster then the EVO and it's able to do anything you'd want to do with a phone. However, it has the same spec sheet as the HTC EVO 4G which came out last year. The same processor (OSD8650) clocked at which uses more energy and is slower then newer Snapdragons clocked at the same speed but newer. The newer phones have MSN8255T which is smaller, faster and uses less energy. Which is all very good.

    And I don't like my wives Photon 4G running Android running faster then my phone. Her phone is just a better phone. If Windows was on that hardware, things would be different.

    I am not nec asking for dual core technology, I just want something that was released this year. And next year when I upgrade I want a phone with a processor released NEXT YEAR. Microsoft needs to keep up with that because newer processors are often faster and better.
    10-17-2011 11:56 PM
  15. Dusteater's Avatar
    The HTC Arrive works great.
    But being CDMA only was the huge failure of this phone. Sprint really must not understand their customers if theier only WP does not have global roaming. This is why I have no cell phone at all, as my Blackberry completely failed. I plan on cancelling my plan next week and being phoneless until well into next year when AT&T might get a new device. Just been a really bad situation for Sprint users.
    10-18-2011 09:55 AM
  16. deezus's Avatar
    Ok, I am going to give WP7 until Dec. 1st. to come out with a Sprint phone with these specs:

    1-4.3 inch screen or bigger
    2-FFC
    3-32gb or more storage

    I guess I would take minimum 4inch screen but don't want to. I really want a WP7 phone(Zune and Xbox user) but I'm tired of waiting for them. My dream phone is a galaxy 2 WP7 but i doubt we will see that. If Sprint doesnt deliver by then I will probably switch carriers.
    I dont understand how they release the titan with 16gb memory? That is a failure to me...I have about 20 gb music and i need room for more. If the titan had 32 or 64 gb memory that would probably be my phone.
    10-18-2011 10:26 AM
  17. xmind's Avatar
    Yeah, man, someone better announce something soon for Verizon and it better be a "flagship" type device....because man it will be hard to keep waiting around with the new Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Motorola Razr just being announced today. Those are looking pretty appealing given the only option I have right now is the Trophy and not even a tidbit of info to string my hope along for a new Verizon WP7 phone. BTW, went into the Verizon store again yesterday to play with the Trophy and guess which is the only phone in the entire store that doesn't have the data provisioning setup correctly? Yeah, the Trophy, same story as it was 2 months ago. Verizon sure seems to be trying to keep people off of WP7.....<sigh> /end rant
    10-18-2011 12:06 PM
  18. scottcraft's Avatar
    Let me expand a little bit. The HTC Arrive works great. It's faster then the EVO and it's able to do anything you'd want to do with a phone. However, it has the same spec sheet as the HTC EVO 4G which came out last year. The same processor (OSD8650) clocked at which uses more energy and is slower then newer Snapdragons clocked at the same speed but newer. The newer phones have MSN8255T which is smaller, faster and uses less energy. Which is all very good.



    And I don't like my wives Photon 4G running Android running faster then my phone. Her phone is just a better phone. If Windows was on that hardware, things would be different.



    I am not nec asking for dual core technology, I just want something that was released this year. And next year when I upgrade I want a phone with a processor released NEXT YEAR. Microsoft needs to keep up with that because newer processors are often faster and better.
    I see the specs on some of these phones and I'm definitely jealous. I'm particularly envious of the iPhone 4S.

    Sent from my Windows 7 phone using Board Express
    10-18-2011 01:07 PM
  19. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    16GB is plenty for me, especially if it keeps costs down.
    16GB WOULD be fine for me too, if they gave you 16GB of usable space. The reviews of the Titan are showing 12.6GB of usable space on its 16GB card. That's more than 20% of the card is full right out of the box! And I would assume that the OS uses the same amount of space on all WP7 phones, regardless of storage capacity, meaning a lower tier phone with only an 8GB card is really only giving you around 4.6GB of space! That is just inexcusable if you don't allow for expandable memory.
    10-18-2011 02:53 PM
  20. Judge_Daniel's Avatar
    16GB WOULD be fine for me too, if they gave you 16GB of usable space. The reviews of the Titan are showing 12.6GB of usable space on its 16GB card. That's more than 20% of the card is full right out of the box! And I would assume that the OS uses the same amount of space on all WP7 phones, regardless of storage capacity, meaning a lower tier phone with only an 8GB card is really only giving you around 4.6GB of space! That is just inexcusable if you don't allow for expandable memory.
    Zune is showing that I have 2.32GB of storage that I can't touch on my Samsung Focus. That leaves me with 5.68, unless I want to expand it (which I probably won't, since I'm cheap and a scaredy cat). However, I believe that it has ample space. I just sync one huge playlist at a time over to the phone and it usually takes one and quarter gigs (right now, music is only taking 1.23GB). Your phone isn't a place to back up your music, but rather a place to have your music on the go.
    10-18-2011 10:53 PM
  21. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    Zune is showing that I have 2.32GB of storage that I can't touch on my Samsung Focus. That leaves me with 5.68, unless I want to expand it (which I probably won't, since I'm cheap and a scaredy cat). However, I believe that it has ample space. I just sync one huge playlist at a time over to the phone and it usually takes one and quarter gigs (right now, music is only taking 1.23GB). Your phone isn't a place to back up your music, but rather a place to have your music on the go.
    I have just one large-ish playlist and podcasts. It's the updating of the podcasts that take up space. I am using my phone as a place to have podcasts "on the go" and not as a place to backup my music or podcasts.

    And 2.32 out of 8 GB that are unusable results in a 29% decrease in usable storage from what is advertised. That's ridiculous! Just be glad you have the only WP7 phone that IS expandable and, from what I've read, likely to be the last one for the foreseeable future.
    10-19-2011 11:37 AM
  22. btgusto's Avatar
    Is it that hard to change a phone from GSM to CDMA? Isn't it just a matter of switching some parts? help me out with this...
    10-19-2011 05:51 PM
  23. smartpatrol's Avatar
    Is it that hard to change a phone from GSM to CDMA? Isn't it just a matter of switching some parts? help me out with this...
    There are different versions of the Snapdragon chips. Some have CDMA modems, others only have GSM.
    10-19-2011 06:20 PM
  24. kg4icg's Avatar
    There are different versions of the Snapdragon chips. Some have CDMA modems, others only have GSM.
    Is it that hard to change a phone from GSM to CDMA? Isn't it just a matter of switching some parts? help me out with this...
    Not only do you change the hardware as in radios and antennaes, but also have to rewrite the firmware in the phone because of the changes.
    10-19-2011 06:29 PM
  25. jfa1's Avatar
    Is it that hard to change a phone from GSM to CDMA? Isn't it just a matter of switching some parts? help me out with this...
    Nope you cant do that it would be cheaper to get a new phone.
    10-20-2011 12:11 AM
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