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  1. anodynamic's Avatar
    Everyone is talking about Samsung, HTC and Nokianokianokia!!! So I think it would be interesting to speculate in what we might see from others, and maybe collect any runmors that haven't been snapped up yet.

    I think it has been mentioned somewhere that Huawei wants in on Windows Phone 8. Looking at their Android devices lately it looks like they are getting quite decent at the hardware thing. They seem to lack a design department capable of making a custom UI that stands out on the Android market, but that wouldn't be a problem with WP.

    LG has made some mediocre attempts with WP, but I feel they failed even more by only offering the Jil Sander design phone as their second generation option. If it had been accompanied by one or two "regular non-fashion" devices we would probably have seen a few more LG phones in circulation. I think their problem may be that they need to compete with Samsung on their home turf, and go a bit over the top as they try to stand out with things like super powered 3D phones and brand partnerships like those behind the Prada phones and the one that came with exclusive Ennio Morricone ringtones. South Koreans seems to be fast adopters when it comes to actually putting things like NFC payments into practical use, so maybe the lack of support for that has been holding LG back before WP8?

    Then there's ZTE, who got a boost when they started offering droids that were cheap enough to be sold with prepaid cards for about €150. They have offered two fairly basic WP devices, but they could probably make decent offers in the midrange as well. They seem be determined to enter the to the tablet market as well, with a bunch of nice-looking about to be released So, they could worth keeping an eye on when it comes to Windows RT also (I could imagine getting their T98 7" quad core tablet if it had RT instead of ICS)
    08-22-2012 12:04 AM
  2. 12Danny123's Avatar
    we know that Huawei is launching their Wp under the ascend name. and maybe using their very thin devices. as for ZTE they are doing it in second half 2013. also Acer and Lenovo are involved. so their devices are coming in maybe first half of 2013
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    08-22-2012 12:20 AM
  3. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    I just hope they dont repeat the first gen mistakes. There were tons of devices laucnhed by numerous OEMs. But today, none of them exist. and even at that time, none of them were ground breaking except a couple of 'em.

    08-22-2012 12:44 AM
  4. anodynamic's Avatar
    I feel first generation mistakes was something to be expected. I think the problem was that after the Nokia partnership was announced OEMs got less interested in correcting those mistakes in the second year, and decided to wait and see. But considering the time it took Nokia to actually get their devices to the market it feels like the others missed an opportunity by not bringing out more Mango phones last fall.
    08-22-2012 01:22 AM
  5. jfa1's Avatar
    Dell is also rumored to be getting back into WP with WP* and also even HP may get in as well
    08-22-2012 01:48 PM
  6. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    Everyone is talking about Samsung, HTC and Nokianokianokia!!! So I think it would be interesting to speculate in what we might see from others, and maybe collect any runmors that haven't been snapped up yet.

    I think it has been mentioned somewhere that Huawei wants in on Windows Phone 8. Looking at their Android devices lately it looks like they are getting quite decent at the hardware thing. They seem to lack a design department capable of making a custom UI that stands out on the Android market, but that wouldn't be a problem with WP.

    LG has made some mediocre attempts with WP, but I feel they failed even more by only offering the Jil Sander design phone as their second generation option. If it had been accompanied by one or two "regular non-fashion" devices we would probably have seen a few more LG phones in circulation. I think their problem may be that they need to compete with Samsung on their home turf, and go a bit over the top as they try to stand out with things like super powered 3D phones and brand partnerships like those behind the Prada phones and the one that came with exclusive Ennio Morricone ringtones. South Koreans seems to be fast adopters when it comes to actually putting things like NFC payments into practical use, so maybe the lack of support for that has been holding LG back before WP8?

    Then there's ZTE, who got a boost when they started offering droids that were cheap enough to be sold with prepaid cards for about €150. They have offered two fairly basic WP devices, but they could probably make decent offers in the midrange as well. They seem be determined to enter the to the tablet market as well, with a bunch of nice-looking about to be released So, they could worth keeping an eye on when it comes to Windows RT also (I could imagine getting their T98 7" quad core tablet if it had RT instead of ICS)
    You forgot about ASUS. I'm very eager to see what they are cooking up and for who. Everything I've seen so far is dull as dishwater!
    08-22-2012 03:45 PM
  7. tissotti's Avatar
    You forgot about ASUS. I'm very eager to see what they are cooking up and for who. Everything I've seen so far is dull as dishwater!
    I would never myself buy Asus phone thinking their support... or really anybody outside the HTC, Nokia and Samsung family. Especially Nokia will be in a different planet when it comes to apps and support as a whole as premium partner. Something that will only be more intense as WP8 is MS's and Nokia's OS.

    Btw what to you is a good looking phone?
    08-22-2012 04:00 PM
  8. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    I would never myself buy Asus phone thinking their support... or really anybody outside the HTC, Nokia and Samsung family. Especially Nokia will be in a different planet when it comes to apps and support as a whole as premium partner. Something that will only be more intense as WP8 is MS's and Nokia's OS.

    Btw what to you is a good looking phone?
    I have an ASUS gaming laptop (looks like a stealth fighter) and it works fine. For WP8 I think the key to success is innovation and the only two companies bringing anything new to the party is ASUS & Sammy. ASUS with there PadFone (it's coming to the US but don't know if it will have WP8) and Sammy with the Note/Note 2.

    What is Nokia doing?...... Boring, ugly, designs. The only thing they seem to care about is a super camera phone that isn't even necessary because I'm sure most people have digital cameras.
    08-22-2012 05:14 PM
  9. wolf1891's Avatar
    Dell is also rumored to be getting back into WP with WP* and also even HP may get in as well
    okay well... I really love my DVP, and I've always been pretty pleased with the Dell computers I've had over the years but... after how Dell botched the support issues for the DVP I'd be pretty skeptical about giving them another shot with a WP. Perhaps once they've proven themselves I'll be willing to give them another chance but, we'll see how long it'll take before that happens.
    08-22-2012 06:40 PM
  10. anodynamic's Avatar
    You forgot about ASUS. I'm very eager to see what they are cooking up and for who. Everything I've seen so far is dull as dishwater!
    I listed those since they have made some efforts and commitments already that I felt I had some opinions about, but of course what others are up to is interesting as well.

    ASUS has gotten their laptop department working quite well in recent years, but on the handheld/lightweight market they have almost gotten a bit silly with their Transformers and Padphones and PadPads and whatnot. It's creative, but the in the eyes of the consumers those concepts seem to lack the usefulness that the designers imagined.
    08-22-2012 09:45 PM
  11. anodynamic's Avatar
    Oh, and if Sony would change their mind about WP..? The Xperia line has gotten a bit repetitive since they got out of the Ericsson partnership, but looking at their current collection I think they have the most consistently good looking phones on the market.

    And I can't be the only one who has had the thought that the Xperia S design almost looks like it was made for WP?
    08-22-2012 10:04 PM
  12. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    I listed those since they have made some efforts and commitments already that I felt I had some opinions about, but of course what others are up to is interesting as well.

    ASUS has gotten their laptop department working quite well in recent years, but on the handheld/lightweight market they have almost gotten a bit silly with their Transformers and Padphones and PadPads and whatnot. It's creative, but the in the eyes of the consumers those concepts seem to lack the usefulness that the designers imagined.
    Well I've never used one of there tabs or phones but from where I'm sitting the PadFone is the natural evolution of the smartphone and should be the standard form that all manufacturers follow. The only thing I hate less than cRapple is Hemroid but when the PadFone comes to the US later this year (I hope) I'm willing to give it a shot if they don't put WP8 on it. :D
    08-22-2012 10:06 PM
  13. jfa1's Avatar
    okay well... I really love my DVP, and I've always been pretty pleased with the Dell computers I've had over the years but... after how Dell botched the support issues for the DVP I'd be pretty skeptical about giving them another shot with a WP. Perhaps once they've proven themselves I'll be willing to give them another chance but, we'll see how long it'll take before that happens.
    I agree with being wary I was just noting there are rumors that Dell and Hp may test the waters With both Dell and Hp I would be leery for the reasons youy note I am primarily thinking Samsung and Nokia and HTC possibly. But i'll look at all of them unless one really wows me . The Phi is close to wowing me already I must admit.
    08-22-2012 10:11 PM
  14. anodynamic's Avatar
    Well I've never used one of there tabs or phones but from where I'm sitting the PadFone is the natural evolution of the smartphone and should be the standard form that all manufacturers follow. The only thing I hate less than cRapple is Hemroid but when the PadFone comes to the US later this year (I hope) I'm willing to give it a shot if they don't put WP8 on it. :D
    I think the limitation with the Padfone is that the tablet doesn't work without the phone. I think a typical situation would be that everyone has their own phone, while with tablets people will have one or two that are shared by the household members.
    08-22-2012 10:22 PM
  15. tissotti's Avatar
    I have an ASUS gaming laptop (looks like a stealth fighter) and it works fine. For WP8 I think the key to success is innovation and the only two companies bringing anything new to the party is ASUS & Sammy. ASUS with there PadFone (it's coming to the US but don't know if it will have WP8) and Sammy with the Note/Note 2.

    What is Nokia doing?...... Boring, ugly, designs. The only thing they seem to care about is a super camera phone that isn't even necessary because I'm sure most people have digital cameras.

    Asus is great in PC hardware but handsets are way different thing. There i would never trust them to update and bring their on software compared to Nokia, HTC and Samsung.

    As far as Nokia's camera's go, Nokia has two serious camera phones. N8 that is two years old and 808 PureView. So don't really see the point there when Nokia makes almost the same amount of different models a year like Samsung.

    You can't go arguing with design with others, but at least Nokia is trying to do something different. While Asians seem to be mostly doing same plastic phone time over time.
    Why example Apple used Nokia as example of doing something different yesterday.
    08-23-2012 12:59 AM
  16. snowmutt's Avatar
    I would be shocked- lightning bolt style-shocked- if we see smartphoes from Dell and HP. Yes, I have heard the rumors from them as well, but their bad experiences would put smart money on Windows Tablets from them. (I, however, would be happy to give a Dell Venue Pro 2 a spin. I love portrait sliders, and regret not grabbing the first version despite it's launch hardships. HP I am still very bitter at for killing WebOS.)

    Lenovo is someone I would be very happy to see a WP8 from. That would shoot straight up to near the top of my "must see" list.

    As for the three manufacturers that the thread anodynamic brought up, I would have no problem with a decent effort if LG would jump back on WP. Their problem is software, not really hardware. I think WP would compliment them nicely.

    I can't see being supper excited by either Huawei or ZTE offerings based on what I have seen. But ZTE would get first crack of those two if I had to.

    Glad I don't have too.....
    08-23-2012 05:05 AM
  17. snowmutt's Avatar
    I just hope they dont repeat the first gen mistakes. There were tons of devices laucnhed by numerous OEMs. But today, none of them exist. and even at that time, none of them were ground breaking except a couple of 'em.

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    May have to ever so respectfully disagree with ya, XENOPHUS (please, no contract out on the Mutt).
    How many Androids from 2010 still "exist"?

    They were ALL groundbreaking. They were the first ever WP's.

    I sincerely HOPE we have those kind of WP8 choices. There was a form factor and screen size for everyone. How can choice be bad???

    And by the way- there are still a good number of Trophy, Arrive, and Focus owners still out there, at least as far as WP 1st gen sales go. And all are very highly regarded by their owners.
    Last edited by snowmutt; 08-23-2012 at 05:14 AM.
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    08-23-2012 05:09 AM
  18. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    May have to ever so respectfully disagree with ya, XENOPHUS (please, no contract out on the Mutt).
    How many Androids from 2010 still "exist"?

    They were ALL groundbreaking. They were the first ever WP's.

    I sincerely HOPE we have those kind of WP8 choices. There was a form factor and screen size for everyone. How can choice be bad???

    And by the way- there are still a good number of Trophy, Arrive, and Focus owners still out there, at least as far as WP 1st gen sales go. And all are very highly regarded by their owners.
    Hahaha...But I have to agree with you. Like it or not.. :P
    Yes, not many Androids exist today from 2010. I skipped that part very conviniently. See, that's why I like this place. If I am going wrong, you guys will point me in the right direction. I know that...

    Thanks Snowy! :P
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    08-23-2012 06:20 AM
  19. crystal_planet's Avatar
    I have an ASUS gaming laptop (looks like a stealth fighter) and it works fine. For WP8 I think the key to success is innovation and the only two companies bringing anything new to the party is ASUS & Sammy. ASUS with there PadFone (it's coming to the US but don't know if it will have WP8) and Sammy with the Note/Note 2.

    What is Nokia doing?...... Boring, ugly, designs. The only thing they seem to care about is a super camera phone that isn't even necessary because I'm sure most people have digital cameras.
    And Samsung has breath taking designs? Yawn. Rectangles with rounded corners for every model. Now in black or white. Their only saving grace is the horsepower they pack.

    Yeah, you're a Nokia hater. We get it, but for you to think Samsung "brings something new to the table" is pretty funny.
    08-23-2012 06:37 AM
  20. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    And Samsung has breath taking designs? Yawn. Rectangles with rounded corners for every model. Now in black or white. Their only saving grace is the horsepower they pack.

    Yeah, you're a Nokia hater. We get it, but for you to think Samsung "brings something new to the table" is pretty funny.
    Even I don't get it. Everywhere around me, peolpe just go ga-ga over Samsung. I never, ever liked their designs. Am I clearly missing out on something big or the world has just generally gone tad bit crazy?
    08-23-2012 07:17 AM
  21. anodynamic's Avatar
    Lenovo is someone I would be very happy to see a WP8 from. That would shoot straight up to near the top of my "must see" list.
    I think I mentioned it in a tablet thread, but I have something of a ThinkPad fetish. The classic black one, that is. And I think a bit more of the original design would work with mobile devices as well, especially as the featureless design would be even more featureless when turned into a phone or tablet without all the ports and slots a laptop needs. It would just be a matte, monolithic slab with a touchscreen, one that looks like it really means business.

    I saw the Windows 8 ThinkPad Tablet 2, and judging by the pictures it has rounded edges and is even glossier than the first one. I'm disappointed...

    I should make a concept image, but I haven't bothered setting up all the software on my Win8 Preview.
    08-23-2012 11:04 AM
  22. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    I think the limitation with the Padfone is that the tablet doesn't work without the phone. I think a typical situation would be that everyone has their own phone, while with tablets people will have one or two that are shared by the household members.
    Why would anyone share a tablet? The whole idea behind the tablet (and laptop) is you can take it with you. So how is somebody gonna share when it's always with you? Very rarely will you need to take the phone out of the tablet. At least for me this would be the case as I want a larger screen to view video, read emails, etc. I see zero point in resizing the screen and all that jazz when I can just get a larger screen.

    As far as Nokia's camera's go, Nokia has two serious camera phones. N8 that is two years old and 808 PureView. So don't really see the point there when Nokia makes almost the same amount of different models a year like Samsung.

    You can't go arguing with design with others, but at least Nokia is trying to do something different. While Asians seem to be mostly doing same plastic phone time over time.
    When talking about Nokia the main thing you hear is how great the camera is. I could give a rats bum about how great the camera is on a phone. In my opinion it isn't a selling point. So what exactly is Nokia trying to do differently? Please inform me because I don't see it. I've never seen anyone braggin about the Nokia their rockin and most new phones look the same these days.

    I would be shocked- lightning bolt style-shocked- if we see smartphoes from Dell and HP. HP I am still very bitter at for killing WebOS.)
    I don't think anyone in their right mind would trust HP again especially with NutMeg in charge. HP can rot as far as I'm concerned.

    And Samsung has breath taking designs? Yawn. Rectangles with rounded corners for every model. Now in black or white. Their only saving grace is the horsepower they pack.

    Yeah, you're a Nokia hater. We get it, but for you to think Samsung "brings something new to the table" is pretty funny.
    I've had 2 Sammies & 1 Nokia. Until this partnership with MS I had forgotten Nokia even existed! They have the inside track with MS and the Lumia line is the best they could do??? Are you kidding me? They have a chance to blow everyone else out of the water and so far all of there rumored designs have been L-A-M-E! :dry Where's the innovation? Where is the great designs? There crap looks like everyone else's to me. Actually they look like what everone else WAS doing years ago! Do I hate Nokia? No. Do I now wish MS had choosen a different partneR? YES!

    Even I don't get it. Everywhere around me, peolpe just go ga-ga over Samsung. I never, ever liked their designs. Am I clearly missing out on something big or the world has just generally gone tad bit crazy?
    I think Nokia just got lazy and they still haven't woken up! Sammy has a lot of features and they think outside the box. I do predict there will be a 7 inch phon-let from them to go along with the Note2.
    08-23-2012 06:26 PM
  23. crystal_planet's Avatar
    Why would anyone share a tablet? The whole idea behind the tablet (and laptop) is you can take it with you. So how is somebody gonna share when it's always with you? Very rarely will you need to take the phone out of the tablet. At least for me this would be the case as I want a larger screen to view video, read emails, etc. I see zero point in resizing the screen and all that jazz when I can just get a larger screen.



    When talking about Nokia the main thing you hear is how great the camera is. I could give a rats bum about how great the camera is on a phone. In my opinion it isn't a selling point. So what exactly is Nokia trying to do differently? Please inform me because I don't see it. I've never seen anyone braggin about the Nokia their rockin and most new phones look the same these days.



    I don't think anyone in their right mind would trust HP again especially with NutMeg in charge. HP can rot as far as I'm concerned.



    I've had 2 Sammies & 1 Nokia. Until this partnership with MS I had forgotten Nokia even existed! They have the inside track with MS and the Lumia line is the best they could do??? Are you kidding me? They have a chance to blow everyone else out of the water and so far all of there rumored designs have been L-A-M-E! :dry Where's the innovation? Where is the great designs? There crap looks like everyone else's to me. Actually they look like what everone else WAS doing years ago! Do I hate Nokia? No. Do I now wish MS had choosen a different partneR? YES!



    I think Nokia just got lazy and they still haven't woken up! Sammy has a lot of features and they think outside the box. I do predict there will be a 7 inch phon-let from them to go along with the Note2.
    All phones have cameras and have for years now. If they didn't mean anything, they would have been discontinued a long time ago. 'Cides a 41MP camera will get bragging rights over a mere 8. (said with tongue planted in cheek)



    Galaxy 3 looks like a Galaxy 2/looks like a Galaxy Note/looks like a Galaxy Nexus/looks like an Asus PadFone/looks like an HTC etc. You see where I'm going with this. Rectangles with rounded corners. *shrugs* It's just personal preference when it comes to aesthetics, but I don't get why you say that Nokias are boring to look at when Samsungs are so "cookie cutter".


    I just think Samsungs are like supercharging a Toyota Camry - you know they're faster than ****, but in the end they look like a Camry.
    08-23-2012 07:52 PM
  24. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    Galaxy 3 looks like a Galaxy 2/looks like a Galaxy Note/looks like a Galaxy Nexus/looks like an Asus PadFone/looks like an HTC etc. You see where I'm going with this. Rectangles with rounded corners. *shrugs* It's just personal preference when it comes to aesthetics, but I don't get why you say that Nokias are boring to look at when Samsungs are so "cookie cutter".
    It's obvious you've never even looked at the PadFone site have you? This is a game changer and for WP8 to be successful it's gonna take something like this to stand apart from all the rest. I wish Nokia would take a MS Surface tab and add phone guts but I doubt they will. A fancy camera ain't gonna do it. :dry Not hating on anyone that wants it but it's nothing to write home about. Your right though personal preference does have a part in all of this but I think once people start using these they won't want to go back to tiny phones.

    Oh I've played with the G3 and was amazed at how light it was. I think it would make a good WP8 device but still too small for me.
    08-23-2012 09:09 PM
  25. anodynamic's Avatar
    Why would anyone share a tablet? The whole idea behind the tablet (and laptop) is you can take it with you. So how is somebody gonna share when it's always with you? Very rarely will you need to take the phone out of the tablet. At least for me this would be the case as I want a larger screen to view video, read emails, etc. I see zero point in resizing the screen and all that jazz when I can just get a larger screen.
    There are many who use them mainly as home devices, as they are more comfortable to use for reading and other casual stuff than a desktop or laptop. The number of WiFi-only tablets available should prove that point. Other than that, they are basically oversized smartphones, and except for people with long commutes or serious social media habits, most get by fine with their phones during the day.
    08-23-2012 11:20 PM
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