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01-09-2015 11:39 AM
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  1. princeegli's Avatar
    The 1520 is speced better than most phones even today.....a year later.....but we have the 1530 coming soon.....now I agree WP needs flagship phones in all screw sizes,not just the phablet market
    01-07-2015 01:17 PM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Your personal preference aside, none of what you mention makes the 1520 any less relevant when you look at it objectively. And with all the better specced phones out there is there any one which can significantly outperform the 1520? Certainly not in the camera department, and even with better CPU's and more RAM will there be any noticeable performance improvement? That's probably down to the software and the newly introduced features like "resuming" and "loading" in WP 8.1 :).

    All most newer phones now boast of is how much more RAM they've crammed in or how much faster the CPU now cranks up to but put side by side I'd bet the 1520 would hold its own pretty well and that's why its still relevant because whether we like it or not, that's all we got as a WP flagship and just because Microsoft dropped the ball doesn't make it any less of a competitive device.
    I guess I should explain. I'm not alone in this situation.

    I own (because I haven't got rid of it yet) a L920. I was in a situation where the battery life was painful and the phone was generally a lemon. So I waited as long as I could to see what MS would do and it turned out to be nothing. The L930 didn't impress me, the L1520 was not a size I wanted and the L830 is not a device I want. I can afford a flagship device so that's what I want. Many are like me. Some have a better position with their phone however so can wait a bit longer.

    So I was left looking at Android or iOS for a phone. I have nothing Apple so that was out but I owned an Android tablet so I bought a Z3. It's a great phone. Nice size and weight. Camera is great and the battery life is amazing. A phone similar to this is what MS and WP needs. A good all rounder. Had a phone like this been around I would never have left WP. Well I haven't left but it's not my daily driver any more.

    I have nothing against the 1520 other than it's size and age. I know people who own it but find it frustrating that it has not phablet capabilities, an OS restriction of course. I also have no hate for WP either, just so you know.

    I just find it sad really that a phone over a year old is still the pinnacle of WP. That says something of the what's wrong with WP.
    01-07-2015 03:35 PM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The 1520 is speced better than most phones even today.....a year later.....but we have the 1530 coming soon.....now I agree WP needs flagship phones in all screw sizes,not just the phablet market
    Who says the 1530 is coming soon? Source?
    01-07-2015 03:35 PM
  4. Robert van Veen's Avatar
    Hi. I bought the 1020 when the 1520 was already on the market. The "aging hardware" is not an issue. A new flagship will put a bigger dent in your wallet.
    My wife played with the 1520 in the store and loved the smoothness of the OS......I will add she hates WP's (refuses to touch mine). I did not buy 1520 for two reasons : price and size. Pocketing that machine would have been a nightmare.
    About the ageing. It has a quad core. I am certain you (or anybody for that matter) do not need a quad core in a phone. My 1020 dual core is very fast. Games are beautiful and responsive. I only replaced my iPhone 4 because screen was tiny and 800Mhz single core was getting slow. Writing this I realise that it did not need replacing as it did what I wanted. Made phone calls, made beautiful photo's and opened all documents (including MS Office) that I needed it too. When getting the 1020 I had a feeling something was coming...had I known it was the 930 I might have waited.
    The only limitation in the future (for the 1020) will be the screen resolution. I have no intention of replacing it in the coming 3 years. Although I admit I am unhappy that I can't get an SD card in there.

    If you decide on the 1520 you will be using it for many years with pleasure...so long as you don't put it in your back pocket and forget it's there!
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    01-07-2015 05:26 PM
  5. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Why don't you go to the nearest Tech store and try it at the stand? So you can judge if the dimensions of the phone is good for you or not.
    I have tried it out a couple of times at stores a few months back, haven't tried to fit it in my pocket though. I already forgot about the size by now, but i remember it wasnt as big as i thought it was. I'm sure i can live with it

    I also drive a Range Rover. Go figure. lol
    lmao! btw neat car :)

    You aren't getting a 1520 in there unless it is naked or just wearing a skin. Cased phones will not fit the Krussel.
    Ah yes, i don't like to uses pouches so i might be getting the Exact tank series or the Amzer case depending on how big the phone feels when it arrives. I love the way the tank series looks though, looks like batman's suit. I'll definitely look into Bodyguardz though. - that sounded wrong.
    01-07-2015 07:53 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The only phone I would consider over the "old" 1520 I have now would be the Passport. Call me crazy but I like the gestures in BB OS10. I also like the swipe up to unlock feature. Did I mention I like gestures?
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    01-07-2015 08:18 PM
  7. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    The 1520 is a beast even in 2015. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise to get a newer one because newer is not necessarily better unless we are talking icon/930.
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    01-07-2015 08:23 PM
  8. Mmazeo's Avatar
    Was just in same exact position as you and after much research went with the 1520. I've only had it a week but so far I'm extremely impressed. Forget that it's what, 14 months old at this point, the thing is smooth and fast. I can definitely see the size being an issue but that is completely subjective. I spent time at the AT&T store with it on multiple occasions which made me realize I could handle it.

    I'm pretty confident that I've got a great device that will smoothly sail to my 18 month upgrade.
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    01-07-2015 11:32 PM
  9. MrRichardF's Avatar
    Shobin, I am going to suggest something slightly different. I have had the 920 and I love it except the battery life is painful and the dual core cup prevents it from being compatible with modern tech and newer updates, so I went and snagged the crazily cheap 635 off contract for $70 (AT&T). It is an absolute STEAL. For normal use, it performs impressively and the battery life is amazing. It lacks 920 luxuries that I have come to love like a ffc, flash, glance, Qi wireless, etc, but it can make a fair 'interim sidegrade' for a minimal investment so that you can save your money for when the new flagship is released. (Have your cake and eat it, too)
    01-08-2015 12:53 AM
  10. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Shobin, I am going to suggest something slightly different. I have had the 920 and I love it except the battery life is painful and the dual core cup prevents it from being compatible with modern tech and newer updates, so I went and snagged the crazily cheap 635 off contract for $70 (AT&T). It is an absolute STEAL. For normal use, it performs impressively and the battery life is amazing. It lacks 920 luxuries that I have come to love like a ffc, flash, glance, Qi wireless, etc, but it can make a fair 'interim sidegrade' for a minimal investment so that you can save your money for when the new flagship is released. (Have your cake and eat it, too)
    I was previously thinking of that exact same thing, get a 535 (they are going for about $100 in my country) and then stick with it till the next big thing.
    I'm sure even that would be miles ahead of my dual core 620 with its tiny ram. However if i want to upgrade, i would prefer to just go all out and get a good phone once and for all. Problem is that i don't upgrade often, i usually only upgrade when i feel it is necessary to upgrade. I might get a 635 and then just stick with it for another 2 years. lol

    Plus, it just hit me i have never ever ever, owned a flagship phone, so it would be nice to get a little bit of taste of that experience i think.
    01-08-2015 01:24 AM
  11. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    The only phone I would consider over the "old" 1520 I have now would be the Passport. Call me crazy but I like the gestures in BB OS10. I also like the swipe up to unlock feature. Did I mention I like gestures?
    Do you think BB would've faired better if they gone with Windows phone?
    01-08-2015 01:27 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Do you think BB would've faired better if they gone with Windows phone?
    No. BB was a train wreck waiting to happen and it's still struggling to gain any sort of market share. They relied too heavily on their business services not realising there were competitors hot on their heels. It's similar to what happened to Nokia. They fell asleep at the wheel and paid the price.

    What has baffled me to no end is why MS didn't concentrate on business more at release of WP. They'd be in a stronger position.
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    01-08-2015 02:13 AM
  13. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I was previously thinking of that exact same thing, get a 535 (they are going for about $100 in my country) and then stick with it till the next big thing.
    I'm sure even that would be miles ahead of my dual core 620 with its tiny ram. However if i want to upgrade, i would prefer to just go all out and get a good phone once and for all. Problem is that i don't upgrade often, i usually only upgrade when i feel it is necessary to upgrade. I might get a 635 and then just stick with it for another 2 years. lol

    Plus, it just hit me i have never ever ever, owned a flagship phone, so it would be nice to get a little bit of taste of that experience i think.
    You're pretty much facing the same situation I had prior to my picking up my Z3. I had only the 1520 or a low/mid range phone to consider and play the waiting game 'hoping' something will come out.

    Since you never had a flagship you may not miss anything but for me I was left feeling left out and decided to give something else a try.

    I wish you the best in your choice. MS has put 1st gen flagship WP users in a difficult situation. We all want to upgrade but feel stuck. Some like me decided to try something else. Sadly, I'm not really missing WP as much as I thought I would.
    01-08-2015 02:17 AM
  14. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Honestly android is still awful to me and I couldn't leave my windows phone for that mess. Plus my camera is still boss.
    01-08-2015 02:59 AM
  15. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Honestly android is still awful to me and I couldn't leave my windows phone for that mess. Plus my camera is still boss.
    Whatever works for you. I'm not bagging WP. Android is fine for me. I see nothing wrong with it. Maybe because I used to use Symbian. The Z3 is a great camera and is getting RAW support with 5.0 upgrade. I'm curious to see what I'll be able to do with it.

    I don't quite understand the negative comments that people make about Android. It's nice to have different OSs available for people to try and find what suits them best.
    01-08-2015 03:30 AM
  16. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Whatever works for you. I'm not bagging WP. Android is fine for me. I see nothing wrong with it. Maybe because I used to use Symbian. The Z3 is a great camera and is getting RAW support with 5.0 upgrade. I'm curious to see what I'll be able to do with it.

    I don't quite understand the negative comments that people make about Android. It's nice to have different OSs available for people to try and find what suits them best.
    It is nice to have choices available however for me that os and its UI is awful :)
    01-08-2015 03:40 AM
  17. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    It is nice to have choices available however for me that os and its UI is awful :)
    That's what's called personal preference. Choice should never be battered down in a consumer market otherwise we have nothing but monopolies and with that comes stagnation. We don't want that.

    If WP works for you, great. If a phone had been available for me with WP OS I wouldn't have bought Android either but I'm not disappointed with what I got.
    01-08-2015 03:44 AM
  18. mathsisbest's Avatar
    So I was left looking at Android or iOS for a phone. I have nothing Apple so that was out but I owned an Android tablet so I bought a Z3. It's a great phone. Nice size and weight. Camera is great and the battery life is amazing. A phone similar to this is what MS and WP needs. A good all rounder. Had a phone like this been around I would never have left WP. Well I haven't left but it's not my daily driver any more.

    I have nothing against the 1520 other than it's size and age. I know people who own it but find it frustrating that it has not phablet capabilities, an OS restriction of course. I also have no hate for WP either, just so you know.
    Since you love upgrading your phone so much and getting the latest device, you'll love the Z3. Upgrading your phone every 6 months... :/

    The 1520 is still a great device regardless of specs. I've got a Lumia 1520 & 930, having upgraded from the Lumia 920. I do not regret getting the 1520. It is an awesome device. I've got no touchscreen issues. The battery life of the 1520 is amazing, usually lasting me more than 2 days with moderate use.

    I look forward to getting Windows 10 on my phone. It will make it the pinnacle of productivity. It is a timeless device, one that you could use in the next 2/3 years, even in the fast speed of technological progress.
    Last edited by mathsisbest; 01-08-2015 at 04:32 AM.
    01-08-2015 03:49 AM
  19. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Since you love upgrading your phone so much and getting the latest device, you'll love the Z3. Upgrading your phone every 6 months... :/

    (I do like the design of the Z3 though)
    I think you misunderstand. I don't like upgrading my phone frequently. I usually like to get 2 years out it or more. Just because a new model comes out doesn't mean I'm going to get it. I only got the Z3 because my L920 got to a point where it was not practical to keep using it otherwise I would have waited.

    I travel a lot and I tend to do days out. I like to take pictures and use my phone while out. The L920 was a horrible phone as I constantly worried about battery life. So now I don't worry at all. My Z3 lasts the day and then some with moderate to heavy use.

    The reason I didn't get a L930, the usual suspect other than the L1520 for an upgrade is because the battery was only marginally better than the one on the L920. So I didn't see it as an option. The L830 simply isn't an option for someone like me who wants a flagship device. I'm sure it's a nice device but not what I wanted.

    The Z3 is a great phone. I don't mean praise other phones other than WP but if WP had something similar you could see it selling well. It's a very nice flagship phone.
    01-08-2015 04:10 AM
  20. iamakii's Avatar
    If you can wait until late half of this year, then get the +40 series running Windows 10. But 1520 has stood its ground for two yrs, still the best WP in the market, of size isn't an issue for you.
    01-08-2015 04:29 AM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    If you can wait until late half of this year, then get the +40 series running Windows 10. But 1520 has stood its ground for two yrs, still the best WP in the market, of size isn't an issue for you.
    I see you're a bit mixed up.

    Not sure where this +40 business came from but there's no indication anywhere that this will be what is used.

    The 1520 is a year and three months old.
    01-08-2015 04:55 AM
  22. iamakii's Avatar
    Sorry I may have phrased it wrongky. By the time Win10 Phones come out (late half of this yr), 1520 will be 2 yrs old. Either that or get +40 Lumia, based on the assumption MS will continue Nokia's conventional naming.
    01-08-2015 05:09 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sorry I may have phrased it wrongky. By the time Win10 Phones come out (late half of this yr), 1520 will be 2 yrs old. Either that or get +40 Lumia, based on the assumption MS will continue Nokia's conventional naming.
    I see. Personally I'd like to see them drop the numbers.
    01-08-2015 05:13 AM
  24. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Since you never had a flagship you may not miss anything but for me I was left feeling left out and decided to give something else a try.
    I can't blame you, there has been a huge gap of 'nothing' happening recently. I can only assume that they have gotten everyone in the company to create W10.
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    01-08-2015 08:26 AM
  25. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I can't blame you, there has been a huge gap of 'nothing' happening recently. I can only assume that they have gotten everyone in the company to create W10.
    Well I think the Nokia buy out was a big thing as well. That takes up a lot of resources and time. That's probably the main reason why things are the way they are.

    I don't really see it as an excuse but I do try to understand. However, that doesn't help WP or users who are keen to upgrade from 1st gen WPs.
    01-08-2015 09:22 AM
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