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  1. onysi's Avatar
    Was Microsoft trying to break the curse? 98, me, XP, vista, 7, 8, --- 10
    Last edited by Muessig; 09-30-2014 at 12:42 PM.
    09-30-2014 12:13 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    I don't blame them, 10 sounds better.
    but then again the 9 gap, how would that work.
    I guess you could argue WP 8.1 is 9 and Windows 8.1 could be 9, but ehhh.

    I just love the Windows One being already done joke was tossed in there.
    09-30-2014 12:23 PM
  3. YanivC's Avatar
    I dont know... I kinda like it....
    I know the Apple Fanners are going to have a field day comparing this to OSX but... Windows X, WP X, Xbox One.... kinda cool IMO.
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    09-30-2014 12:39 PM
  4. techiez's Avatar
    So finally we have the unified OS windows 10. would this close down the app gap finally?
    09-30-2014 12:52 PM
  5. Byrese's Avatar
    No and that's not the point. We just need quality and popular apps.
    Sent from my Lumia 1520 using Tapatalk
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    09-30-2014 12:56 PM
  6. werner6769's Avatar
    Did they get rid of the metro only part and merge it into the desktop start menu?
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    09-30-2014 01:07 PM
  7. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    I like it. And as belfiore said "It's only scratching the surface of what's to come"
    09-30-2014 01:14 PM
  8. iambox's Avatar
    And we say hello to a new family. Metro-style apps will not be seen as beautiful in windows as they are designed for fullscreen, and desktop apps still has to be beside them. This is separation at its finest
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    09-30-2014 01:14 PM
  9. vk1971's Avatar
    Have they gave any explanation why they've skipped 9?
    I think this gap leaves negative feeling: something went wrong with v9 and they've closed it; inconsistency; mess within the company; you name it.
    09-30-2014 03:03 PM
  10. Brandon Tobias's Avatar
    So finally we have the unified OS windows 10. would this close down the app gap finally?
    Yes it will result in a closure of the app gap since MS said its one code base now and they are targeting an easier way to develop apps for all form factors with one store for all apps.

    It may also result in better apps as a developer only has to write the app once and debug one set of code not two or three.


    Did they get rid of the metro only part and merge it into the desktop start menu?
    The modern UI is still there but the bull start screen will be there for touch only and convertible devices unless you opt for the start screen in settings. its formfactor dependent
    desktops = start menu
    surface = start screen and start menu. Depends on if its in laptop mode (type cover case) = start menu or tablet mode (type cover off touch only mode) = start screen and full screen apps.
    tablets = start screen.
    phones = start screen no desktop.
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    09-30-2014 04:23 PM
  11. Byrese's Avatar
    Yes it will result in a closure of the app gap since MS said its one code base now and they are targeting an easier way to develop apps for all form factors with one store for all apps.



    It may also result in better apps as a developer only has to write the app once and debug one set of code not two or three.









    The modern UI is still there but the bull start screen will be there for touch only and convertible devices unless you opt for the start screen in settings. its formfactor dependent

    desktops = start menu

    surface = start screen and start menu. Depends on if its in laptop mode (type cover case) = start menu or tablet mode (type cover off touch only mode) = start screen and full screen apps.

    tablets = start screen.

    phones = start screen no desktop.
    Ok. I understand. So the . Are u saying wp10 will be completely different? So the same os for all mobile "sp3, surface 2, Lumia 2520, etc)?
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    09-30-2014 04:32 PM
  12. Brandon Tobias's Avatar
    Have they gave any explanation why they've skipped 9?
    I think this gap leaves negative feeling: something went wrong with v9 and they've closed it; inconsistency; mess within the company; you name it.
    It's just a name 10 is fitting to me as its almost like a reboot of windows to 1.0 plus this next version is going to be substantial with its unification so 10 is fitting.

    nothing went wrong with version 9 as Windows 8 was build 9600 and the technical Preview of Windows 10 is build 98xx. by the time windows is finish it will be build 10xxx and trust me MS has allot of stuff up their sleeve with Windows 10 allot of features are still not shown as yet.

    Remember they said the preview is just a scratch and i suspect they have new builds in the 99xx or 10xxx internally as some missing key pieces are : my speculation
    1) Modern UI 2.0 -- refreshed design / new API's and features
    2) Windows explorer redesign it might change some what we see evidence of new icons so we might get a visual overhaul so the explore window blends in more with windowed modern apps.
    3) no mention of notification center, cortana or other non enterprise features which are still cooking.
    4) Windows 10 will run from phones go up so there maybe some synergistic features (think apple's continuity and blackberry's blend) i suspect that windows for phone and other factors will allow us similar features.

    when u think of that alone plus what MS has not told us you see why 10 is a good name because its a huge release if MS gets every aspect right and functioning flawlessly.

    hope this helps
    Last edited by Brandon Tobias; 09-30-2014 at 04:50 PM.
    09-30-2014 04:37 PM
  13. Brandon Tobias's Avatar
    Ok. I understand. So the . Are u saying wp10 will be completely different? So the same os for all mobile "sp3, surface 2, Lumia 2520, etc)?
    Its and evolution of Windows 8 but also a new windows in the sense that MS may have reworked the core and most of Windows 8 in this release but at the same time they have taken the parts of windows 7, and windows 8 people loved and thrown them in.

    It's not a start from scratch approach where everything was redone remember windows 8 had an advance feature-set and core so they would have built on that core so now windows is scale able from a phone go all the way up to a server (phone, tablet ,laptop , convertible pc/laptop desktop, server, xbox one maybe even an automotive application and hospital / specialized equipment).

    as said before the modern UI is rumored to be a version 2.0 with UI and feature set improvements / overhaul.

    So WP10 will be the same Windows minus some things like Desktop, the core might scale back and drop off features a phone would not need or use hence WP 10 will be a bit different than its desktop counter part.

    It's not a full rewrite of the windows core and other essential aspects so windows 8 devices and WP 8 devices will be upgrade able it wont be like windows phone 7 to 8 where they broke compatibility with old hardware and old users were left in the dust.

    so same OS for all but form factor (phone, tablet, laptop, PC, convertible) will determine what UI and features are visible / accessible but the core should be the same on all give or take a few API's and features.

    hope this helps got a headache so may not have explained clearly maybe some one can fill in my blanks.
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    09-30-2014 04:47 PM
  14. trekgraham's Avatar
    No more Windows Phone and hello Windows 10 or Windows One Zero LOL
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    09-30-2014 05:02 PM
  15. astondg's Avatar
    My first reaction is that I don't like the windowed store apps or their always displayed title bars. I thought the show/hide idea in 8.1 was a good compromise. I like what they've shown so far, but that was just 1 thing that jumped out at me from the video.
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    09-30-2014 05:32 PM
  16. Byrese's Avatar
    Its and evolution of Windows 8 but also a new windows in the sense that MS may have reworked the core and most of Windows 8 in this release but at the same time they have taken the parts of windows 7, and windows 8 people loved and thrown them in.

    It's not a start from scratch approach where everything was redone remember windows 8 had an advance feature-set and core so they would have built on that core so now windows is scale able from a phone go all the way up to a server (phone, tablet ,laptop , convertible pc/laptop desktop, server, xbox one maybe even an automotive application and hospital / specialized equipment).

    as said before the modern UI is rumored to be a version 2.0 with UI and feature set improvements / overhaul.

    So WP10 will be the same Windows minus some things like Desktop, the core might scale back and drop off features a phone would not need or use hence WP 10 will be a bit different than its desktop counter part.

    It's not a full rewrite of the windows core and other essential aspects so windows 8 devices and WP 8 devices will be upgrade able it wont be like windows phone 7 to 8 where they broke compatibility with old hardware and old users were left in the dust.

    so same OS for all but form factor (phone, tablet, laptop, PC, convertible) will determine what UI and features are visible / accessible but the core should be the same on all give or take a few API's and features.

    hope this helps got a headache so may not have explained clearly maybe some one can fill in my blanks.

    Ok. After you explanation and others I get it. I'll last of the panic button. As long as my SP3 doesn't look like desktop without my permission I'm good.

    It's also nice now to have one store. Ballmer should be happy because these is the completion of his vision.
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    09-30-2014 05:43 PM
  17. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    9 seems to be unlucky with Chinese people.
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    09-30-2014 05:46 PM
  18. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Was Microsoft trying to break the curse? 98, me, XP, vista, 7, 8, --- 10
    You do realise there is no "Windows 10"?
    It'll either be Windows NT 6.4 or NT 7.0
    (Windows 8.1 is actually 6.3) - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
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    09-30-2014 07:31 PM
  19. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    Yes it will result in a closure of the app gap since MS said its one code base now and they are targeting an easier way to develop apps for all form factors with one store for all apps.

    It may also result in better apps as a developer only has to write the app once and debug one set of code not two or three.




    The modern UI is still there but the bull start screen will be there for touch only and convertible devices unless you opt for the start screen in settings. its formfactor dependent
    desktops = start menu
    surface = start screen and start menu. Depends on if its in laptop mode (type cover case) = start menu or tablet mode (type cover off touch only mode) = start screen and full screen apps.
    tablets = start screen.
    phones = start screen no desktop.
    Its been one code base since Windows Vista (NT 6.0) - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
    09-30-2014 07:33 PM
  20. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    9 seems to be unlucky with Chinese people.
    The number 9 has traditionally been associated with the emperor ( the number of rooms in the Forbidden City) and partly owing to the fact that the sound for "nine" is close to that for the word "long-lasting".
    09-30-2014 07:35 PM
  21. stephen_az's Avatar
    Yes it will result in a closure of the app gap since MS said its one code base now and they are targeting an easier way to develop apps for all form factors with one store for all apps.

    It may also result in better apps as a developer only has to write the app once and debug one set of code not two or three.




    The modern UI is still there but the bull start screen will be there for touch only and convertible devices unless you opt for the start screen in settings. its formfactor dependent
    desktops = start menu
    surface = start screen and start menu. Depends on if its in laptop mode (type cover case) = start menu or tablet mode (type cover off touch only mode) = start screen and full screen apps.
    tablets = start screen.
    phones = start screen no desktop.
    Regardless of the accuracy of your statement re the desktop, your comments about apps and app gaps are crystal ball level speculation. It will not close any gaps unless developers buy into it. In fact, since the current apps are not universal, it could make the situation much worse in the short term. Yes, that is speculation on my part but it is at least based in logic. Regardless of fantasy PR today, developers who have never completely embraced W8 or WP8 will have to recompile, re-code, and test to have universal apps. Any bets on that happening soon? While universal code (which I will believe when I see it) would theoretically be of benefit down the line, it offers end users nothing on the front end. Best case scenario is W8 apps will work in W10 and the future will bring something more. Worst case scenario is they make a mess of current generation apps and we effectively have useless apps stores again. BTW, I am pretty sure their language was along the lines of advancing the goal, not achieving it. Users should not assume it means a thing for day of release....
    09-30-2014 07:38 PM
  22. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    I'm probably staying up all night hoping to see this go live at some point. I'll be extremely disappointed if it doesn't happen till late in the evening tomorrow.
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    09-30-2014 08:15 PM
  23. doob9911's Avatar
    So 8.1 is actually 9? It makes sense.
    09-30-2014 09:27 PM
  24. doob9911's Avatar
    It's pretty and fast. Most 8 users will install 10. But Will 7 users go to 10? I am not sure.
    09-30-2014 09:30 PM
  25. psoham777's Avatar
    Yes they will. I still have windows 7 on my pc, now i won't upgrade to 8.1, instead I'll go for 10
    DavidinCT likes this.
    09-30-2014 09:32 PM
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