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  1. ice8lue's Avatar
    There's a big difference between the WP 8.1 Preview for Developers (PD) and the W10 Insider Program (IP):

    The PD delivered RTM (ready to manufacture) versions of WP 8.1, meaning they were tested and, in most cases, stable. A beta state, meaning they are developed on, but are mostly feature-complete. From what is said about IP, it is intended to bring out test versions to the masses faster, but those will be in an alpha-state, meaning they are tested very fast and most likely contain bugs, possibly even bigger ones. It's okay for the IP to deliver buggy versions which may not suite the day-to-day use while it was not for the PD.
    neo158 likes this.
    02-03-2015 08:04 AM
  2. KarateDad's Avatar
    Did you happen to replace the screen on your 800? My wife's phone had that problem, but i had gotten a piece of the adhesive in front of it, causing it to not work properly. Took it apart, moved the tape, and voila, it worked perfectly.
    02-03-2015 09:13 AM
  3. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    There's a big difference between the WP 8.1 Preview for Developers (PD) and the W10 Insider Program (IP):

    The PD delivered RTM (ready to manufacture) versions of WP 8.1, meaning they were tested and, in most cases, stable. A beta state, meaning they are developed on, but are mostly feature-complete. From what is said about IP, it is intended to bring out test versions to the masses faster, but those will be in an alpha-state, meaning they are tested very fast and most likely contain bugs, possibly even bigger ones. It's okay for the IP to deliver buggy versions which may not suite the day-to-day use while it was not for the PD.
    The DP builds were never developed on strangely enough. They were the same build that was given out to people later on in every case. (Disappointed because he wanted to try out betas :()
    02-03-2015 10:06 AM
  4. naeem151287's Avatar
    The answer of Microsoft is also not definitive. See the terms and conditions of the insider program.
    ​The answer will be definitive when the preview is out. No point worrying about it until then.
    02-03-2015 12:10 PM
  5. horseybob's Avatar
    Having just spent 4 days figuring out how to unbrick my Windows tablet and finally get Win10 installed on a WIMBoot system... I would suggest that if you're comfortable with:
    - command-line scripting
    - doing a hard reset, if not re-imaging your phone daily
    - using 3-15 GB's of data per month solely for downloading updates
    - expect to see things freeze, BSOD's, gears that don't go away, apps that crash or just won't run (like Netflix in IE11)
    - can live with wildly variable battery life
    - providing constructive inputs and troubleshooting to MS in the Insider Program
    (Windows Insider Program - Microsoft Community)

    And a few other things that come to mind, then you're ready to enjoy Win10 TP for daily use! If not, I'd definitely suggest waiting a few months to give Microsoft the time to work out the kinks and polish off the rough edges that are bound to be in the first few builds.
    02-03-2015 05:41 PM
  6. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Well the previews for Wp8 worked for me mostly....I am hoping W10 TP will follow suit.
    02-04-2015 12:16 AM
  7. dicks-webos's Avatar
    02-04-2015 12:37 AM
  8. RichardBurt's Avatar
    And we all know what will happen when 10 is installed on the phones don't we? They will post about how their phone is bricked, how do they unbrick it, blame MS for releasing crap software. Blame MS for making them lose all their contacts etc etc. Blame everybody apart from themselves.
    N_LaRUE and neo158 like this.
    02-04-2015 12:57 AM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Well the previews for Wp8 worked for me mostly....I am hoping W10 TP will follow suit.
    There's a difference between Developer Preview and Technical Preview.

    With a TP you're dealing with beta software. With the DP you were dealing with almost RTM. The possibility of crashes and things not working are significantly higher with a TP.

    I'm not sure what kind of mix we'll get but I'm expecting to see a few threads started by people who installed it on their daily driver, didn't backup their data and are now wondering what to do with their bricked or not properly functioning phone. All because they think they're 'missing out' and can't be bothered to wait.

    Unfortunately people are too anxious to have an update just for the sake of having the update without realising that beta software can and will go wrong.
    Laura Knotek and RichardBurt like this.
    02-04-2015 02:15 AM
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