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  1. Christopher Kendalls's Avatar
    128 GB SD cards. Nokia MixRadio (out of the box). HERE Maps (offline Maps, true offline navigation). Live Tiles. OneNote. Office. HD video recording for less than $100.

    Those are my primary reasons, and what I believe differentiates WP from Android and iOS. iOS still does not have offline support out of the box, for anything, unless something has changed I don't know about. And it still does not take SD cards. I love the fact that I can have a phone with 8 GB of storage (well, 2 after the OS takes up 6) and add an additional 128 GB to it with a card.
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    07-06-2015 11:15 AM
  2. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Here's what I want you to do. Buy the cheapest windows pre-paid phone you can buy. I would suggest something like Blu Win HD or something else with a nice 5 inch screen like lumia 535. These phones are dirt cheap even unlocked. Locked down probably cheaper. Once you get it, get the "developers preview" app. Not the Windows insider app. Install the latest phone updates. Use it for a while and see if you like it. That's the only way you will know.

    My brother abandoned Android after he used Windows for a bit. A lot of people do love the UI when I let them play around with my lumia 830. This will give you time to find apps that you need to function. There is an app issue but there are lots of third party apps that replace some of the popular ones that are missing. With that said, since I have been using this phone the app gap has been slowly closing. Windows 10 will probably make that even less of a problem. People generally do prefer the Windows UI. That is what makes windows, no doubt about it. The level of customization and creativity lets people really enjoy their phone.

    Stick with the cheap phone until some of the better phones start coming out near winter time. You may even find that it's enough for you.

    I have all 3 platforms. Yes, iphone is great for apps no doubt. Android is kind of a mess if you ask me, but it does what you need it to do. I think Lollipop is a decent iteration of android but it's still not a final solution. Android M is supposed to help even more with speed issues and all the problems it comes with.

    If you find you don't like it, just keep it in great condition and sell it. You may lose a bit of money but think of it as "renting" to test. People can tell you this or that but really you need to test it yourself. I think Windows is more tailored to the individual hence all the customization.

    Security wise, so far Windows is the better one out of all of them but that could change in the future once it's more popular. Keep in mind that Microsoft has included malware/virus detection in their windows platform for a while. They have learned a lot about how malware/viruses work and have built a platform to try to protect against that. Windows 10 is supposed to be quite secure. Also keep in mind that Windows 10 is built around the users. People helped shape the OS. And they will continue to shape it because Microsoft is listening. IOS releases an update, you are stuck with what is changed and don't have any say. Windows 10 is going to focus more on options. You don't like this, turn it off, someone else may like it they keep it on.

    I have a Lumia 830 and I LOVE IT!
    The screen is great, I love customizing my start screen to suit my needs and show off my artistic side.
    The camera is insane. I have had point and shoot cameras that are not as good as this. People will comment on how good the camera is when I show them pictures. And the design of the lens isn't bulky in the least bit.

    This is how my UI looks. It's individually tailored, no one will have that same UI. Well unless they copy it hehe.
    vbcb8ph.jpg
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    07-06-2015 11:30 AM
  3. PsychoSuperman's Avatar
    What phone do you currently have? When are you planning to switch?

    I had a similar conversation with my brother, and I will give you the same advice I gave him. If you can afford a spare phone, get one and play with the OS. In his case he got a new Icon (Verizon's Lumia 930 varient for about 250 on ebay), but I think a 640 with 1GB of ram is a good midrange device. See how Windows 10 evolves and decide if it could become your daily driver. If not, you are at least left with a very capable phone as a backup in case your main flagship breaks.

    Like others have said, the draw to Windows tends to be an emotional one. I could have switched to Android or iOS but I don't enjoy using those platforms. They are soulless to me and come across as app launchers. If you feel the same after testing it out then you will be happy. If not at least you know that you are more of an Android fan.

    As far as functionality, the improvements in W10 are great. Attaching multiple file types to emails and text messages, .gif support, Bluetooth improvements, etc. Since the OS will be on par (or better) than the big two, It will come down to apps and OS navigation, so good luck deciding on what feels right to you.
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    07-06-2015 11:56 AM
  4. UKSteve's Avatar
    If you want to be a sort of odd one out then chose WP, if you want a lot of people say to you Microsoft sucks I wouldn't chose their stuff then chose WP, if you want people to tell you that there are no apps, chose WP, if you want the sniggers and muted giggles when you say you have a new phone and show them a Lumia, chose WP, if you want the numerous online pundit to tell you about miniscule WP penetration then chose WP but if like me you don't give a **** what anyone thinks and are willing to try anything after using an Android phone (no complaints with the ZTE), then definitely chose WP.
    07-06-2015 12:13 PM
  5. wgs84's Avatar
    I've used all three OS, and I find Windows Phone to be a nice balance between iOS and Android. It's as smooth and as fluid as iOS, but it doesn't have the obnoxious file-sharing restrictions. WP has sandboxed apps like iOS, but it also has a shared place where you can store your files like in Android (love this about WP the most). WP is nearly as capable and flexible as Android, but with WP, you get good performance even with low-specs, unlike Android, where you need a high-spec flagship to get good performance. Also, WP doesn't have the messiness of Android (referring to the internal storage. Constant random junk folders. Everywhere.). It's true that WP apps aren't as great as the iOS and Android counterparts, and sometimes I do wish WP had a certain app, but having used WP for eight months, I honestly can say that it's really not that big of an issue.
    07-06-2015 12:19 PM
  6. speccy's Avatar
    If you didn't like WP7 then you probably won't like 8.1 or 10. I for one loved WP7, so much so that every phone I've had since has been a Windows phone.

    If the modern interface and live tiles didn't grab you when you had a Windows phone previously, then you're likely to prefer the basic icon structure of IOS and/or Android over WP still.

    Each to their own though, horses for courses and all that.
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    07-06-2015 12:20 PM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    So, my colleague bought an android ... and is perplexed why apps get installed on his phone without him knowing... The usual casinos, games icon/apps crap started populating his start screen... That's Android in a nutshell...
    No idea what apps he's installing but never had this issue. There were some apps when I got my phone (country specific) that I simply uninstalled and that was it.

    Never had any issue with any app so far doing anything like this. Then again, I stick to proprietary apps most of the time.
    Same here, but I only use Google Play and Amazon Appstore, not any dodgy sites.
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    07-06-2015 12:23 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    128 GB SD cards. Nokia MixRadio (out of the box). HERE Maps (offline Maps, true offline navigation). Live Tiles. OneNote. Office. HD video recording for less than $100.

    Those are my primary reasons, and what I believe differentiates WP from Android and iOS. iOS still does not have offline support out of the box, for anything, unless something has changed I don't know about. And it still does not take SD cards. I love the fact that I can have a phone with 8 GB of storage (well, 2 after the OS takes up 6) and add an additional 128 GB to it with a card.
    MixRadio, HERE Maps, OneNote and Office are available for iOS and Android.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
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    07-06-2015 12:30 PM
  9. chasvs's Avatar
    Win 7.5 is nowhere near as great as Win 8.1 and Win 10 later this year will be even better! AS many will tell you there's no compelling reason to use any of the current OSs over the other unless there's a very specific need for a particular app. I've tried Android twice and left after a month or two each time. My wife has had 2 IPhones ( 4 & 6 ) models and I just don't see anything there that makes me want to leave Windows Phone. I started with an HTC with Win 7 and upgraded to a Lumia 822 when Windows 8 came out. Changed to a Lumia 928 and then an Icon. When there was no new Windows phone last fall I tried a Motorola Droid Turbo with Android and liked the device quite a bit, but Android still left me unimpressed. One of my favorite things with my Windows phone is having Cortana read me my texts as they arrive and allowing me to reply by voice even if I'm in the car and connected by Bluetooth. With Win 10 coming it's only going to get better. I've got an extra Icon which I've been previewing Win 10 Mobile on. It's not quite ready for prime time daily driver use, but then it's not even close to being released yet but it's showing great promise just like Windows 10 desktop was just a few months ago!
    07-06-2015 12:45 PM
  10. Krystianpants's Avatar
    If you didn't like WP7 then you probably won't like 8.1 or 10. I for one loved WP7, so much so that every phone I've had since has been a Windows phone.

    If the modern interface and live tiles didn't grab you when you had a Windows phone previously, then you're likely to prefer the basic icon structure of IOS and/or Android over WP still.

    Each to their own though, horses for courses and all that.
    That's odd because I didn't like Windows 8 at all but I love 8.1. So I can't see how they are comparable with 7.

    I only got lumia 520 because it was cheap and it wasn't till 8.1 update that I thought it was a worthy OS.
    07-06-2015 12:48 PM
  11. waazzupppp's Avatar
    This is a loaded argument from the start, but let's look at the basics...

    1) What does Android NOT do that you want it to?
    2) What is the primary "thing" you do with your phone - email/text/messaging, calling, gaming, browsing, etc...?
    3) What handset are you currently using?
    4) What budget do you have for the new handset?
    5) Why do you want to switch?

    Overall, Android does everything well. Windows does a few things better, but you'd really have to think hard bout making a switch in your ecosystem. With MS making such good Android Apps now, it's an easy switch to make, but I wouldn't want to have to make it for 'no reason' what so ever. Fortunately, I have the best of both worlds as I carry a Windows Phone and Android device daily.

    As someone that uses both OS's daily, I can tell you that Windows Phone (for now) is much better at the messaging thing. Calling, both are very equal, unless you want call blocking and text blocking, in which case the Lumia's do that natively. Gaming is slightly better on Android due to the number of titles that are available - Clash of Clans, Candy Crush Soda, etc... Browsing is tougher, but I prefer the way that Windows handles it over Android. IE seems to be a bit better than Chrome, but Edge is still a bit too new to judge. If it is as good as they say it will be, it will be a good step in speeding up mobile browsing as well.

    Overall, I can't give you a good reason to switch, unless you aren't happy with Android. That's between you and your current phone. As far as a flagship wait for 10 thing goes... I don't think that's a good plan when a Lumia 640 is about $100 and the 640 XL is around $200-250...
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    07-06-2015 12:51 PM
  12. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Get phone like Lumia 640 and test it out. I would wait for final version of Windows 10 mobile before going highend.
    T-Mobile Microsoft Lumia 640 Prepaid Smartphone - Walmart.com
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    07-06-2015 12:57 PM
  13. johnson_patrickw's Avatar
    Absolutely do not get a cheap phone and upgrade it to the Windows 10 preview. Thats akin to telling someone to load Android M on a Galaxy S3.
    07-06-2015 01:05 PM
  14. Tepid's Avatar
    If I was told you can have the brand new iPhone7, straight off the presses, sight unseen, same for the Android both Gold plated, only ones of their kind that no one else has. Or, a brand new Lumia Icon. Pick one, free of charge.

    I'll take the Icon, thanks.
    07-06-2015 01:11 PM
  15. mary beth hale's Avatar
    MixRadio, HERE Maps, OneNote and Office are available for iOS and Android.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    "Here and OneNote actually work very well on my work LG G2
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    07-06-2015 02:24 PM
  16. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    "Here and OneNote actually work very well on my work LG G2
    I use HERE, Office, and OneNote on my Moto X. These apps work very well on the Moto X.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
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    07-06-2015 02:26 PM
  17. speccy's Avatar
    That's odd because I didn't like Windows 8 at all but I love 8.1. So I can't see how they are comparable with 7.

    I only got lumia 520 because it was cheap and it wasn't till 8.1 update that I thought it was a worthy OS.
    But the basic design of the interface is virtually identical, what is it that you like in 8.1 that made you like it so much more than 8? You didn't specify. I'm playing devils advocate a little here because I'm a fan of WP, but the difference between the various versions is minimal, not that that is a bad thing, but still, very minor differences really.
    07-06-2015 02:27 PM
  18. Slovenix's Avatar
    On another note, **** "social" apps and buy a Windows 10 mobile device ;) :)
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    07-06-2015 03:33 PM
  19. Slovenix's Avatar
    Here's my current Windows 10 screen :) wp_ss_20150706_0001.jpgwp_ss_20150706_0002.jpg
    07-06-2015 04:01 PM
  20. AnnoyingCat's Avatar
    Absolutely do not get a cheap phone and upgrade it to the Windows 10 preview. Thats akin to telling someone to load Android M on a Galaxy S3.
    why not? win10 preview run so smooth on my spare Lumia520
    07-06-2015 10:33 PM
  21. Yatin Pancha1's Avatar
    I am not hate the WP, I like the UI of WP.

    but I just don't expect this from microsoft (biggest software manufacturing company) they even don't give smart search in dialer while in android I have phone number lookup option too (eg. if you don't have your nearest mcdonald number you have to type mcdonald in your dialer it will give you number).

    In Rs. 15k (in india) they even don't give usb cable while in india Rs. 5k android phone comes with usb cable.

    I add some mp3 files on my WP and the default music app shows all but gives me error this file can not play and gives some errors so I have to delete all the files and again add and then after few hours it plays.

    if I add some Videos file play in default video player and then if I delete it from any file manager, the video player still show that file and if I click on it. it will show that there is no Internet connection so we can not play file.

    now told me the reason Why I suggest anybody to buy WP.
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    07-06-2015 10:54 PM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I am not hate the WP, I like the UI of WP.

    but I just don't expect this from microsoft (biggest software manufacturing company) they even don't give smart search in dialer while in android I have phone number lookup option too (eg. if you don't have your nearest mcdonald number you have to type mcdonald in your dialer it will give you number).

    In Rs. 15k (in india) they even don't give usb cable while in india Rs. 5k android phone comes with usb cable.

    I add some mp3 files on my WP and the default music app shows all but gives me error this file can not play and gives some errors so I have to delete all the files and again add and then after few hours it plays.

    if I add some Videos file play in default video player and then if I delete it from any file manager, the video player still show that file and if I click on it. it will show that there is no Internet connection so we can not play file.

    now told me the reason Why I suggest anybody to buy WP.
    Your statements here are not helping your cause any.

    We get you had a bad experience. We get you have expectations that are not being met. We get that you won't recommend WP to anyone. So my question is as I asked before, if you dislike it so much why are you here?

    You stated it's 'not a smartphone' even though it fits all the criteria for one. You complain about bugs in apps, which happens on any platform. You complain about updates which is true. You complain and complain and complain some more.

    In what way does this not come across as hate or dislike? Where in anything you've written is there any positives?

    Yes, WP isn't for everyone. Just like Android isn't. Just like iOS isn't. This is the reason for choice.
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    07-07-2015 05:11 AM
  23. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    This thread becomes hotter and hotter everyday......isn't it ?
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    07-07-2015 05:26 AM
  24. Michael Bennink's Avatar
    How soon is your soon? There's no "high end" flagship Windows phone right now.
    My Lumia 930 would like to beg to differ ;-)

    It's still a piece or hardware that van hold its own against the iPhone and the high end Android landscape ^^
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    07-07-2015 06:17 AM
  25. Thmoas De Grauw's Avatar
    I have used everything. An iphone for a couple of years, a lot of androids, started off at symbian and I even had windows mobile 6.1 all these years back. So I'm not a fanboy. I have invested money on each appstore, I can switch freely. The only thing I want is a phone that works and does what I want.

    I thought my Iphone 4S was great, it's a few years old but still runs newest iOS. It has an app for everything and everybody who builds an app will support iOs. I thought it felt great in hand. I could get used to the homescreen and interface. There's two issues, battery life (I want to be able to skip a night of charing) and price. I got the iphone for free, but when I wanted to upgrade i saw that I would have to pay at least 300EUR for the cheapest iphone 5c which would be the same as my 4S appart from a little bigger screen. I know the internal hardware is better but the 4S could cope fine with anything I threw at it. So no more Apple for me unless I get one for free again.

    My latest android was a Moto G 4G. I really liked it. It was right up my price range (I don't want to spend 500EUR for a phone anymore, those days are over) and I liked the bump cover. It was bulky though. Put for it's price it had a very smooth operations. What I dislike is that for the most part you are bound to the producer of your phone for OS updates. They will not release the latest OS version even though your phone is perfectly capable. It also takes ages before it gets released. I dislike the crapware installed. That is also why I liked my Moto G, it was very clean andorid and updates were promised allthough arrived quite late. Android is very customziable, while I like this, I also like stuff to just work. I don't want "customziable" be the same as "having to spend hours to get stuff to work". Yes Tasker is great, yes rooting is great, yes flashing any firmware is great, but I see this more as a hobby for a geek then as featurs that are improtant in a smartphone for 98% of the people. It is great that you can swap any component (the app drawar, the lockscreen, the homescreen etc...) with something your own style, but this also comes with the drawback that a lot of stuff doesn't work together exactly as you would like, bugs etc... A bad point again is battery life, while Moto G was good in this regard, it was not 2 days. Again was obsessed with turning on/off bluetooth, wifi etc.. when not needed. But I liked it, untill I dropped it too hard and it broke.

    I then could get a Lumia 640 for free. I though OK let's try windows phone. I was very sceptical at first, it was 5 inch and was afraid at this price point it would be really bulky. I saw the specs and knew I would get a just decent experience (but thats ok), I thought i will be missing a lot of apps. But hey, I'm free minded and I will try anything especially for free.

    Well, I have to say I am quite surprised. It's a 5" phone but it's not thick like my Moto G. I like the design (boxy, simply, no frills) but that's personal. The software is completely different again. I like how it is different but still it is good. I like the homescreen, it is like iOS but you can change the icon size and the icons actually carry information. Apart from that your locked as far as customization goes. But I like what it does so that's fine. Everything from apps that I would want is there, except for Grindr :p there is a lot of scamware in the appstore. Viber, Whatsapp, Facebook, twitter, games like GTA San Andreas, Asphal, Zombie shooters, everything is there. Very nice are the Microsoft apps. The health app is just crazingly amazing and an example of how much information you can present with the simple sliding interface of windows phone.

    Next best thing is the battery, it will last for 3 days on my usage without having to bother turning off bluetooth wifi etc... it's just a joy getting in my car and my bluetooth just connects. Of course this works for ios or android too, but battery usage would suffer on the cheaper end of the phone market, while this Lumia 640 handles it nicely. The display is nice etc... but ok that was the same for the Moto G.

    In the apple world you can not get perfectly good working phones like Moto G and Lumia 640 that go fast, does everything the platform has to offer with nice displays for this price. Apple just is too expensive unless you get it for free. I have enough money, I'm just a rational thinker.

    The good thing about android is the customization but this comes with the price that it won't always work out the way you want. It also eats battery, it can be slower and the graphics do'nt feel as smooth as either ios or windows phone. Battery life isn't great either.

    Windows phone has everything the Moto G has + better battery life.

    If you want flagship phones you need ios or android but really, is that worth it? You get some extra sensors that nobody cares about or nobody supports yet. You get many more pixels that you can not see. You pay 400EUR extra for this. I do'nt think it is worth it. So for me, the best phone is a windows phone. But I will happily use something else too, I can work with everything.
    07-07-2015 06:35 AM
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