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  1. ITmanagerNC's Avatar
    Let's face it... there are not many of us left, comparably, to the global mobile community. We test, we send feedback, we deal with the highs and lows but we are faithful. I just got a replacement 1520 for my failed one... and I have an 830 and a 925... oh and a HTC 8x too.

    I'm tired of the endless upgrades to get back to the OS version I want... and I can't imagine it would be very difficult for Microsoft to implement two improvements:

    Running WDRT, provide a list of up to date base OS options common to that device so we can install that version directly.

    Being able to create a manual backup which is not susceptible to being overwritten. Allow us to name it from the device and control it's characteristics (read only, baseline, etc) in Onedrive.

    I know I'm not the only one who bemoans the these tasks when getting a new device or resetting because of an issue with a new build.

    I also realize Microsoft is extremely interested in the upgrade process to ensure customers get the most reliable experience but I guarantee you there is no value in OUR endless upgrading a vanilla device from 8.1 --> 8.1.1 --> TH1 --> RS1 and soon --> RS2.

    I have submitted these in the Feedback hub, lets hope they are still listening.
    Phkejo and AbhiWindows10 like this.
    03-27-2017 04:24 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    I'm sure they're listening, but whether they will act meaningfully beyond cosmetic and minor under-the-hood improvements is something else entirely.
    03-27-2017 04:36 PM
  3. Guytronic's Avatar
    Money talks.
    There isn't any profit for Microsoft in maintaining the platform aggressively so in my opinion WM has been moved to "hobby" status by MS.
    03-27-2017 08:54 PM
  4. EspHack's Avatar
    even in their free time the guys at ms can manage to improve w10m it seems, so far its been getting better, slow but getting there

    its better than nothing, and honestly a phone for me is just a small computer, an accessory, so its getting the attention it deserves at least for my use case

    but yea I wish mobiles where as flexible as computers, thats how I thought they were before getting into "smartphones" I thought I would buy one, install wm6 on it and make it my own, a happy life, lol I still dont get it, but at least we could have a tool, like WDRT that would allow us to manage it more flexibly, like making a full rom backup of the phone, so if anything happen we just flash it back in, and if we could get whatever build we want on the phone and then after flashing it in, the phone can get its drivers and so on, life would be so much enjoyable around here

    but nah instead of that we get the current way of doing things, which honestly feels idiotic, overly complicated and frustrating to say the least, with no apparent technical reason, yeah you will see the usual dude claiming mobile devices are special snowflakes and they cant be serviced as easily as x86 computers, of course not, we absolutely need to flash wp8.1 and then get 10586 and then 14393 and then 15051 and then 15063, for fabricated "reasons" really
    Starboy21, kurdochali and Erphis like this.
    03-28-2017 12:18 AM
  5. Awhispersecho's Avatar
    I think the new update drastically improved performance. As far as if they are listening, sure they are. To the board members. Not us
    03-28-2017 06:23 PM
  6. Sedp23's Avatar
    Let's face it... there are not many of us left, comparably, to the global mobile community. We test, we send feedback, we deal with the highs and lows but we are faithful. I just got a replacement 1520 for my failed one... and I have an 830 and a 925... oh and a HTC 8x too.

    I'm tired of the endless upgrades to get back to the OS version I want... and I can't imagine it would be very difficult for Microsoft to implement two improvements:

    Running WDRT, provide a list of up to date base OS options common to that device so we can install that version directly.

    Being able to create a manual backup which is not susceptible to being overwritten. Allow us to name it from the device and control it's characteristics (read only, baseline, etc) in Onedrive.

    I know I'm not the only one who bemoans the these tasks when getting a new device or resetting because of an issue with a new build.

    I also realize Microsoft is extremely interested in the upgrade process to ensure customers get the most reliable experience but I guarantee you there is no value in OUR endless upgrading a vanilla device from 8.1 --> 8.1.1 --> TH1 --> RS1 and soon --> RS2.

    I have submitted these in the Feedback hub, lets hope they are still listening.
    They don't care. There's not many phones available and they aren't even promoting the OS. The creators update didn't even update much of anything on Mobile. We've been asking for landscape home screen for years and still nothing...doubt if they even care much anymore now they are selling android galaxy phones in their stores
    03-30-2017 09:40 AM
  7. sniperboywc's Avatar
    They quit listening a long time ago. When they stopped production of the the Lumia line, they cut off their ears and plucked out their eyes.
    03-30-2017 09:43 AM
  8. Nitish_KSharma's Avatar
    I am upset, undoubtedly. The only thing I want right now I want from MS is to just come to public and say something. Own up to whatever has been going on and tell us that they are done with Windows Phone/Mobile. That would be much better compared to what we are going through. Just be a man or a woman (in case of Dona Sarkar, lol) and tell us to **** off.
    03-30-2017 09:44 AM
  9. helsten2's Avatar
    This says it all....:
    Microsoft touts Microsoft-customized edition of Samsung Galaxy S8 | ZDNet

    I guess next is Mac and iPhones ...
    03-30-2017 09:50 AM
  10. Wayne Dupree's Avatar
    I think this says it all:Samsung Galaxy S8 'Microsoft Edition' will be available in Microsoft Stores | Windows Central

    I was a WP fan since Mango and kept using it through October of last year when my 1520 finally needed a second battery. My wife had already made the jump to Android - we were getting ready to head to Disney later that month and I had to make the jump myself. I've been using a "WinDroid" (much like I suspect they will sell in-stores above) since. I suspect Microsoft is listening - just not in the way we think they should.
    bing722 and Erphis like this.
    03-30-2017 09:52 AM
  11. anon(5725119)'s Avatar
    I don't think they're listening. I mean, you just have to look at all the upvoted feedback that goes ignored. Of course, they can't implement every little suggestion, but there's still a fair few suggestions that are highly in-demand yet completely ignored.

    And yeah, all suggestions can't be implemented, but all bugs should be fixed, and there's bugs that have been around for a while now that haven't been addressed. Overall, the W10M experience is better than it was at 10586, but there's still little things that need to be fixed, but haven't been.

    So, are they listening? We have no definitive answer. We can only guess from their attitudes towards W10M. And my guess is no, they simply aren't listening.
    Starboy21 likes this.
    03-30-2017 09:56 AM
  12. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    Using windows 10 mobile on both Lumia 1520 and 950xl. Quite happy with the upgrades and updates. Phone and software do get better.
    TgeekB and ClassicalMood like this.
    03-30-2017 09:59 AM
  13. dorelse's Avatar
    This says it all....:
    Microsoft touts Microsoft-customized edition of Samsung Galaxy S8 | ZDNet

    I guess next is Mac and iPhones ...
    Yes, is the Surface phone a Galaxy S8? Perhaps. (OK, I kid...but...the next Lumia would appear to be a MS Ed. Galaxy S8).
    pedmar007 likes this.
    03-30-2017 10:05 AM
  14. meattray's Avatar
    I'd agree in that while there aren't any new devices directly from then they are consistently updating the software. That's a plus I'm itself. It at least allows your older hardware to still run some newer programs.

    Hopefully things will clear up over the next while with their full plans.
    editguy and TgeekB like this.
    03-30-2017 10:06 AM
  15. robwards's Avatar
    If they are listening, they certainly are not answering....yet.
    sniperboywc and ClassicalMood like this.
    03-30-2017 10:16 AM
  16. pedmar007's Avatar
    To that I say to MS take your beleaguered ideas and promises and shove them!!!!
    03-30-2017 10:19 AM
  17. Tunde Fajimi's Avatar
    Money talks.
    There isn't any profit for Microsoft in maintaining the platform aggressively so in my opinion WM has been moved to "hobby" status by MS.
    As long as Microsoft cannot get (or mandate) its staff - especially the developers - to use its mobile platform (even as work-only phones), they'll never be invested enough to resolve the problems with the platform.
    Guytronic likes this.
    03-30-2017 10:21 AM
  18. pedmar007's Avatar
    Thing is MS is operating at a level that they promise features and app features for the next level of OS upgrade and not update and right before its release, take out some features that opened our eyes to say they're actually doing something then for us to get the upgrade and wait for the next iteration of the OS to be released with more promises and broken right before.
    Phkejo likes this.
    03-30-2017 10:22 AM
  19. FirstWatt's Avatar
    Sometimes I think they NEVER listened.
    Example: There was a big request about having a Week View in the calendar since day one. A WEEK VIEW. Something WM6 had.

    In Uservoice the wish was supported by thousends and thousend of votes.
    They needed YEARS to accomplish it.

    It even seems they listen more now than 5 years ago.


    I love the system, but those working on it did not. Apart that, they not even used the WP Phones themselves as a daliy driver, not WP7, not WP8, nor 8.1 and W10M.
    Why? Simple, the calendar was so abysmal to use, not searchable, etc., I can't believe they would have let this edure for years if they would have USED it, LOVED it.
    03-30-2017 10:32 AM
  20. Anirudh 64's Avatar
    Last year Microsoft said that they will focus on Mobile in future and they didn't focus on Mobile that time. But they still continued this till Creators Update where it was supposed to be focused for Mobile. Also apps like Paint 3D, Windows Inking and other features that are available for Desktop and not for Mobile simply shows that they are not interested in Windows 10 Mobile.

    And Microsoft using the Samsung Galaxy S8 to for their services shows that they will slowly....very slowly.....and steadily kill Windows 10 Mobile. And we, Windows Phone users will be left behind.
    Phkejo likes this.
    03-30-2017 10:35 AM
  21. Sammibulin's Avatar
    No of course they aren't. I firmly believe the only reason they continue to update the platform is because it is so easy to do so at this point. But any real innovation or new features that need to be tailored on mobile won't show up. Why would MSFT care if they ignore us. There are so few of us and most will end up going to android and using MSFT services anyways. The way I think of it is Windows mobile loyalists are like a guy who has been friend zoned by a chick who dates other guys. But the guy sticks around anyways because he has hope that maybe one day he will be more than a friend.
    n7slc, Tunde Fajimi, muvig and 2 others like this.
    03-30-2017 10:38 AM
  22. Bai's Avatar
    Put it this way, if my 950 die right now I am heading to iPhone and I am a user since mango. Not only they don't listen, I don't even think they care. Let's forget about apps for a sec, they can't even fix the camera app 18month later. Decent camera is a must in smartphone market and there is no w10m with decent camera in the foreseeable future. Satya's legacy will be driving MS to the ground by ignoring the phone market.
    mrdoubleb, Phkejo and Gene Pineda like this.
    03-30-2017 10:39 AM
  23. HaroldLG's Avatar
    I don't think so.

    I bought a 640XL on December 2015. By June 2016 I had the yellow screen issue. Last week the phone stopped charging, so I took my wife's spare iPhone 5c.

    I live in Canada and I have VERY limited options for WM10. At the store we only have the Alcatel IDOL 4s and two Acer models (the HP Elite is sold out). I just want a phone with a good camera and I'm not willing to pay more than CAD 300 for it.

    Yes, I could go to Amazon.ca and order a Lumia 650 for CAD 211, but for 259 I could get an Asus Zenfone 3 laser, which honestly looks like a better deal.

    I could get over the app gap (though I really need my banking apps and Transit is a must if you use bike and car sharing as I do), but the lack of communication from MS makes me think that they're going to pull the plug any minute now. I'll probably get the Asus and make the jump to Android, which sucks because I really like WM10... Is just that I feel is going nowhere.
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    03-30-2017 10:43 AM
  24. Tito Saikale's Avatar
    Microsoft should prioritize Mobile Version for once! People want the best device to be Mobile. Yes, PC version is very important, but time has changed and everyone want to be more practice. I just want to see Microsoft saying they will save Windows 10 Mobile working hard on it. Why they don't get it?!!!!
    03-30-2017 10:46 AM
  25. bdball's Avatar
    Like a magic 8 ball, my ZuneHD, Surface 2, and Lumia 928 say the answer is No.
    03-30-2017 10:46 AM
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