06-08-2017 09:20 AM
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  1. SalableFawn's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering if Windows 10S will be made available to those currently on Windows 10 Home?

    If so, would there be any performance benefit for low-end, 2-in-1 type devices?

    Cheers,
    Mitch
    Krishna Parab likes this.
    05-03-2017 05:49 AM
  2. Drael646464's Avatar
    Well all I can tell you is they said it would be free to switch for schools. It might be free to switch for anyone? We on't know.

    The performance factor, is something they mentioned in the talk, but for some reason everyone's been fixated on the store-only thing.

    I want someone to get in there and benchmark/real-time test this beast and tell us for sure - is windows s faster? If it is, that's very important IMO.

    If it is, it's not windows lite, its windows streamlined. And that has some appeal, especially as you say, for low end hard-ware. Come on guys give us some real answers on windows s! test that beast, get under the hood!

    My guess would be it is, and they stripped services down to achieve it. But I wanna know, and I want someone to actually talk about it.

    Get yourselves a PC with some low specs. A tablet, whatever. Time the app loading, and logging in time. Time multi-tasking. There's a UWP for video editing - time some damned video crunching on pro versus s. Please god, let us know lol!
    Withheld and Ratindra Sharma like this.
    05-03-2017 06:25 AM
  3. xandros9's Avatar
    If you want 10 S, just uninstall all the programs and only use Store apps.
    rdubmu and Krishna Parab like this.
    05-04-2017 05:02 PM
  4. rgc6789's Avatar
    Originally posted by xandros9
    If you want 10 S, just uninstall all the programs and only use Store apps.
    Not the same. I have 2 kids with laptops that I'd like to put S on. It allows you to still connect them to Azure AD, but keeps them more secure since they can't install apps other than those available in the store.
    Hirox K, amasnag and k1s23 like this.
    05-04-2017 06:46 PM
  5. matt john2's Avatar
    I seriously don't see any real benefits of the Windows 10 S. If you want your kid's computer safe and secure then don't give them any Admin privileges, install Tinywall(firewall) and regularly update their device. It's what I do in every computers in our house, they can install apps from store they just can't install install win32 applications without my confirmation as the admin.
    05-04-2017 08:09 PM
  6. MrElectrifyer's Avatar
    It allows you to still connect them to Azure AD, but keeps them more secure since they can't install apps other than those available in the store.
    That's literally what the following option built into the creators update does:

    restricting-app-installation-just-store.png

    Simply select it using an admin account on your kids' Laptops, and setup a standard user account for your kids on their Laptop. Done, no need to permanently restrict yourself.
    05-07-2017 06:14 AM
  7. SalableFawn's Avatar
    Thanks for the responses guys.

    Like Drael touched on, I'm interested to know whether Windows 10S will be any faster on cheap hardware, owing to the more streamlined OS.

    I guess time will tell!
    05-08-2017 02:53 AM
  8. matt john2's Avatar
    Thanks for the responses guys.

    Like Drael touched on, I'm interested to know whether Windows 10S will be any faster on cheap hardware, owing to the more streamlined OS.

    I guess time will tell!
    It's lighter to which can be translated to being snappier=feels faster. Though might not be a big of a difference from Windows 10 in overall performance as W10 is already very forgiving on low spec computers. To give you an example I have been using W10 in my 10 y/o Dell laptop without any issues except some drivers with my laptop being too old.
    05-09-2017 09:42 AM
  9. SEB2014's Avatar
    would love to download and install windows 10S on my Surface 3 to extend its battery life!
    05-17-2017 09:30 AM
  10. Fayzul Omar's Avatar
    I'm extremely curious whether Windows 10 S can make my Asus T100 perform better...
    05-23-2017 08:19 AM
  11. Krishna Parab's Avatar
    originally posted by xandros9
    if you want 10 s, just uninstall all the programs and only use store apps.
    lol!
    05-28-2017 10:07 AM
  12. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I seriously don't see any real benefits of the Windows 10 S. If you want your kid's computer safe and secure then don't give them any Admin privileges, install Tinywall(firewall) and regularly update their device. It's what I do in every computers in our house, they can install apps from store they just can't install install win32 applications without my confirmation as the admin.
    So when your kid goes to a website that takes advantage of an exploit that doesn't care about your privileges, what then?

    The concept of windows 10S is to flush out the w32 system from dynamic linking, statically linked libraries for the OS and project centennial only coupled with tight permissions and containers.
    05-30-2017 11:47 AM
  13. Chris Knopff's Avatar
    Don't get me wrong, everyone has a choice in the security they put on any of their operating system. Each has their benefits and caveats.

    For parents setting up a system for their kids, the best option is to prevent them from installing things on the computer. A good way to do this is with Administrative access being removed from their profile. If you want to further prevent issues, use a default browser with pop-up blocking and ad-block enabled. Using a proxy or a feature like OpenDNS helps.

    As for making Windows 10 S available on existing devices, it would be nice to see how it performs. As the Windows Store grows, this may be something nice, but in my situation it would not work, and currently with applications my kids use, it would not be possible (yet)

    As for a tool like TinyWall, it only tries to advance the Windows Firewall, and the Firewall in Windows 10 has been getting better.
    06-01-2017 09:44 PM
  14. raphok's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering if Windows 10S will be made available to those currently on Windows 10 Home?

    If so, would there be any performance benefit for low-end, 2-in-1 type devices?

    Cheers,
    Mitch
    but why?
    06-02-2017 09:40 AM
  15. infinidim's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering if Windows 10S will be made available to those currently on Windows 10 Home?

    If so, would there be any performance benefit for low-end, 2-in-1 type devices?

    Cheers,
    Mitch
    06-02-2017 09:47 AM
  16. infinidim's Avatar
    I think I would upgrade my wife's 2-in-1, it would make the battery last longer. She only uses Store apps anyway. It would be win win .
    Chris Knopff likes this.
    06-02-2017 09:50 AM
  17. neilbey's Avatar
    That is not the only thing that differentiates windows 10 s.
    06-02-2017 09:50 AM
  18. neilbey's Avatar
    but why?
    Really? The person literally gave the reason in their post: performance boost.
    06-02-2017 09:53 AM
  19. raphok's Avatar
    Really? The person literally gave the reason in their post: performance boost.
    is there a benchmark test?
    06-02-2017 10:01 AM
  20. uburz's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering if Windows 10S will be made available to those currently on Windows 10 Home?

    If so, would there be any performance benefit for low-end, 2-in-1 type devices?

    Cheers,
    Mitch
    I don't think that would be possible without fresh Windows install. It would still make sense on some devices, for performance reasons. In my humble opinion, Windows 10 home edition should be dismissed, in favor of Windows 10 S.
    06-02-2017 10:03 AM
  21. Dan Harris's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering if Windows 10S will be made available to those currently on Windows 10 Home?

    If so, would there be any performance benefit for low-end, 2-in-1 type devices?

    Cheers,
    Mitch
    Something I've been trying to find out is whether the OS is literally the same as Home but locked down to the store through a software restriction.

    I.E If you got a fresh install of Home and a fresh install of S, would they have identical Services running in the background out of the box etc.

    I was hoping more of the legacy stuff was stripped out by default, and would get added back in if you upgraded to W10 Pro - For example, would you get an identical experience performance and battery wise if you just use W10 Home and set it to only allow apps from the store to be installed (Which you can do in the current SKUs if you want)
    06-02-2017 10:27 AM
  22. Dan Harris's Avatar
    What we need a solid answer to is whether Windows 10 S is identical to W10 Home once you set (in Creators Update and newer) to only allow apps to be installed from the store.

    I want to know for sure do the performance and battery life improvements come from other legacy stuff being stripped out, or does it just come from the natural effect of being restricted to Store Apps
    06-02-2017 10:29 AM
  23. tbellas3rd's Avatar
    Very curious about it as well. Lets hope they give more of an answer.
    06-02-2017 11:09 AM
  24. ScubaDog's Avatar
    LOL. It's a downgrade. No, I won't switch to 10S.
    06-02-2017 11:25 AM
  25. pjhenry1216's Avatar
    Honestly, as mentioned numerous times already, we won't get a straight answer on this until someone benchmarks a fresh install of Home (with the Store app Lock turned on) vs a fresh install of S on identical hardware. Considering we aren't sure how much of a performance boost (if any), it'd probably be better on lower end hardware to emphasize any differences.

    Anyone commenting that its ridiculous on the face of it and calling it a downgrade doesn't understand the OSes. Or they're simply leaving out that they have a deep understanding of how S works and simply are disguising their knowledge as ignorance so we don't bombard them with more questions maybe? /s
    hopmedic likes this.
    06-02-2017 11:47 AM
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