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09-25-2017 01:25 PM
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  1. EspHack's Avatar
    if you're already thinking of getting rid of think since it is largely irrelevant for your use case then get rid of it, it cant really do anything that your other devices can't

    they made this a click baity tittle on the main page for some reason, to which the answer is another betterridge's law exemplary: is it time to ditch the boat? cuz plane>boat? No.
    09-08-2017 08:24 PM
  2. Evil_MrM's Avatar
    Desktops, especially those you build yourself, are more environmentally friendly than laptops or all-in-ones. Buy a good case, and a desktop could get you 8 years or more of usage; you could update the motherboard or graphics card separately at about the halfway point of its life, if games are important to you. Many people might have 3 or 4 laptops during the same time, think of the waste that is saved by purchasing a desktop.

    Plus, desktops rock, and they're fun and easy to build...
    raycpl likes this.
    09-09-2017 12:47 AM
  3. smallmountain's Avatar
    I still have a desktop along with my laptop. Other members of my family do not have laptops, so to use the computer, the use the desktop (when their i-devices are not enough).

    What I would like to do is ditch the desktop, and at its location, have a large monitor, keyboard and mouse and single wire docking. I would get my wife and son laptops, and whoever wants the big screen could just walk up and connect. I would love for somebody at Windows Central to do an article on docking solutions that would support this scenario. Would I need USB Type C on all the laptops? Thunderbolt? I know there are a bunch of docking solutions out there, but many seem specific to a manufacturer, like Dell.
    09-09-2017 12:39 PM
  4. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I suppose that is what I have ended up with, my SP4 is docked into all of what was my desktops peripherals, screen, web cam, speakers, mic, network with the other peripherals like the DVD, HD, card readers in one of the drawers of the desk.

    My wife could just as easily plug in her SP3 and work away, it's been plugged in and all the software for the devices installed.

    Similarly I could go to my wife's set up and plug my SP4 into her docking station (Keep it clean folks) and work away.

    OK its only a 24 inch HD monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse but easy to add a few other peripherals if needed.


    The deed was done earlier today, the old desktop was cleaned up, the cables all put away and the floor hovered, so I can now stretch my legs under my desk so much easier than before.

    I suppose we have an almost same set up with our 950XL and 950, each can be plugged into the others docking station and be used with continuum on any set up.
    Last edited by Bobvfr; 09-09-2017 at 01:10 PM.
    09-09-2017 12:57 PM
  5. Kracker 1's Avatar
    I have a "Workstation" desk, with a nice leather chair that houses my PC, if I am typing, skyping or generally web surfing, I tend to sit here.

    Underneath the desk I have a desktop, it's nothing special, an HP with an AMD A8 processor, with 14G memory (It had 2G but I stuck three extra 4G's in), with a 1TB medium speed hard disc, it is hooked up to a 28inch HD monitor and has an HP web cam and a pair of Logitech speakers (Run through the monitor) and a desktop USB microphone that I use for Skype.

    Its main advantage that I can see is has a DVD, plenty of USB's and a SD card reader. And it just works, never gets hot, I have the monitor turn off after a few hours and don't have it in sleep mode, so it's ready to go instantly with all it's peripherals set up and working.

    However I also have an Surface Pro 4 i7 and docking station (Plugged into the same monitor and speakers).

    I am not going to spend any pennies upgrading the HP and it's motherboard is old so no real benefit if I did, and because of the SP4 I really couldn't justify another PC anyway.

    So its stick or bust.

    To complete the picture in the same room I have an Xbox One rigged up to a 65inch 4k TV, receiver and large speakers for my entertainment and the odd game I play (I plan on getting an Xbox X next year for the 4k experience). And I also have a 950XL with a docking station also plugged into the already mentioned monitor.

    One of the reasons for considering the ditching of the desktop is my wife, she has a Surface Pro 3, docking station with keyboard and mouse plugged in, an HD monitor, a 950 and docking station, and an Xbox One connected to a 50 inch HD TV.

    She is not the worlds top IT expert, I have showed her how to dock the SP3, I have it set so the monitor duplicates the SP3, (She really isn't going to move apps to different monitors) but I have never seen her use the SP3 as a desktop, she just plugs it in to the dock to charge it.

    By ditching the desktop she would see me using mine as a PC and maybe get the hint......

    The other obvious reasons would be to save some power, clear some space and more importantly cut out half a ton of cables.

    It would take a few minutes to plug the webcam and microphone into the docking station, I have a USB card reader for all sizes of SD cards, the only loss would be the DVD that I probably haven't used for a year anyway.

    What say you all.
    09-10-2017 01:09 PM
  6. Kracker 1's Avatar
    I thought the question was "is it time to ditch the windows10 desk top"? Or the question should have been that. The answer would be sure! I ordered a new hp windows 7 a few months before windows 10! Why? Because after using a mac and reasoning about windows7 the 10 is worst than 7 when it comes to holes in the built in security. Even the 7 had to many holes. Ditching Microsoft may have been the correct question!
    09-10-2017 01:21 PM
  7. Jennifer Grey's Avatar
    I was thinking about making the move, but in my experience, desktops are so much easier to fix when something goes wrong.
    09-11-2017 09:05 AM
  8. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I suppose it had to happen, and in some ways I am surprised it took so long.

    I was sitting on the settee with my SP4 in tablet mode, got up and made a cup of tea and then sat down in my "Office" chair and started to move the mouse and was stared at by a blank screen...................

    OK the distances aren't far from my desk to the settee but I had put my tea on the desk, got comfy and then I have to get up to retrieve the SP4 and plug it back in.

    Not sure I can cope with this.

    The desktop may be back in place by the weekend
    09-13-2017 07:25 AM
  9. Malleable69's Avatar
    I have a "Workstation" desk, with a nice leather chair that houses my PC, if I am typing, skyping or generally web surfing, I tend to sit here.

    Underneath the desk I have a desktop, it's nothing special, an HP with an AMD A8 processor, with 14G memory (It had 2G but I stuck three extra 4G's in), with a 1TB medium speed hard disc, it is hooked up to a 28inch HD monitor and has an HP web cam and a pair of Logitech speakers (Run through the monitor) and a desktop USB microphone that I use for Skype.

    Its main advantage that I can see is has a DVD, plenty of USB's and a SD card reader. And it just works, never gets hot, I have the monitor turn off after a few hours and don't have it in sleep mode, so it's ready to go instantly with all it's peripherals set up and working.

    However I also have an Surface Pro 4 i7 and docking station (Plugged into the same monitor and speakers).

    I am not going to spend any pennies upgrading the HP and it's motherboard is old so no real benefit if I did, and because of the SP4 I really couldn't justify another PC anyway.

    So its stick or bust.

    To complete the picture in the same room I have an Xbox One rigged up to a 65inch 4k TV, receiver and large speakers for my entertainment and the odd game I play (I plan on getting an Xbox X next year for the 4k experience). And I also have a 950XL with a docking station also plugged into the already mentioned monitor.

    One of the reasons for considering the ditching of the desktop is my wife, she has a Surface Pro 3, docking station with keyboard and mouse plugged in, an HD monitor, a 950 and docking station, and an Xbox One connected to a 50 inch HD TV.

    She is not the worlds top IT expert, I have showed her how to dock the SP3, I have it set so the monitor duplicates the SP3, (She really isn't going to move apps to different monitors) but I have never seen her use the SP3 as a desktop, she just plugs it in to the dock to charge it.

    By ditching the desktop she would see me using mine as a PC and maybe get the hint......

    The other obvious reasons would be to save some power, clear some space and more importantly cut out half a ton of cables.

    It would take a few minutes to plug the webcam and microphone into the docking station, I have a USB card reader for all sizes of SD cards, the only loss would be the DVD that I probably haven't used for a year anyway.

    What say you all.
    09-19-2017 09:04 AM
  10. Malleable69's Avatar
    My desktop/office workspace is set up in a corner of my living room next to a closet. Hidden inside the closet are four desktops that have their cables run under the closet door and along the wall to outlets/router. I have a a four monitors mounted on a stand. Two slidable sidetables hold my four keyboards and four mice. I have an unobstructed view of my living room television.
    It was my master piece. It brought tears to my eyes.

    Haven't booted any of them up in months.

    For work I now use a small slideable table for my work laptop, which plugs into one of the monitors. Another tiny table holds the keyboard and mouse for work; as well as the docking station for my tablet PC, bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
    The tablet pc is what I use all the time for personal stuff.

    I say ditch the desktop if it doesn't provide any added benefit over the Surface. Having a large monitor and docking station the tablet is all you need.

    Mal
    09-19-2017 09:16 AM
  11. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Well another week has gone by, one more incident of sitting down at my "Desktop" only to find the Surface is on the settee, but it only takes seconds to pick it up and plug it in.

    I have actually found I am using the Surface less as a tablet, but then maybe it wasn't actually being used as a tablet as often as I thought, it sat by the settee on charge in "Tablet form" but not actually used that often anyway.

    One positive result is I spend a fraction of the time I used to do updating, with only the SP4 and the 950XL to do instead of the multiple devices I had just a few months ago (HP Stream 7 and HP desktop both now redundant).

    So have I "Ditched" my desktop, well I have unplugged the hardware that was my desktop, and replaced it with the higher spec SP4 that is my new desktop, I have gained leg room under my desk, gained Windows Hello, gained time wasted updating multiple devices, gained a better insight into how I interact with my tech and how I would go in the future.

    I may be in a position in a couple of months where I live mostly in London but go "Home" at weekends to a place a hundred miles or more away, no need to buy more PC's, just a few peripherals and take the SP4 and the 950XL and plug them in and I am at "Home" with multiple desktop's anywhere I want.

    Now who mentioned a Surface phone

    One very unexpected thing has happened out of this, my boy who is a gamer and a bit of a luddite "What do I want a tablet for, I have a multiple monitor gaming PC", has suddenly started using our old original Surface Pro, OK it's never going to get a docking station or be used like mine or the wife's ones are but maybe it's catching..........
    Last edited by Bobvfr; 09-23-2017 at 02:50 AM.
    09-23-2017 02:23 AM
  12. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Just nipped down to PC world and bought a pair of Logitech speakers (The same as mine) for the wife's setup, also bought a Logitech wireless desk set of a full size keyboard and mouse.

    Yesterday I fitted the same HP HD web cam I have fitted to my setup, so the only peripheral my wife doesn't have that I have is the desktop microphone (She will use the one in the web cam).

    This basically means we have two docking stations set up with monitors, speakers, web cams, Ethernet.

    Either of us can plug in our surfaces to either docking station and use the peripherals and get a near identical experience.

    If needed at any time in the future we can set up other docking stations and use them. Also we have the portable SD card reader, hard disc and DVD player and a host of USB sticks for simple file transfers etc.

    Very impressed with the way this is working out, all I have to do know is get the wife to get used to tablet and desktop mode and the way she can use all of this.




    This could be the hardest part.
    09-24-2017 07:23 AM
  13. ClintRo's Avatar
    I still have a desktop along with my laptop. Other members of my family do not have laptops, so to use the computer, the use the desktop (when their i-devices are not enough).

    What I would like to do is ditch the desktop, and at its location, have a large monitor, keyboard and mouse and single wire docking. I would get my wife and son laptops, and whoever wants the big screen could just walk up and connect. I would love for somebody at Windows Central to do an article on docking solutions that would support this scenario. Would I need USB Type C on all the laptops? Thunderbolt? I know there are a bunch of docking solutions out there, but many seem specific to a manufacturer, like Dell.
    The surface line would be great for this as Surface Pro 3 all the way to the new Surface Pro would use the same magnetic dock connector. So you could have one person of a surface 3 that doesn't need the power and one on an New Pro (5) i7 processor with 1TB HDD and 8GB RAM or what ever makes since dollar vs power ratio.
    Last edited by ClintRo; 09-25-2017 at 11:37 AM.
    09-25-2017 11:11 AM
  14. Bobvfr's Avatar
    One question for you all.

    On my desk I have my 28 inch monitor, speakers about 8 inches away from the monitor on either side, a docking station tucked away as neat as possible, in front of the monitor is the keyboard, mouse mat and mouse. to the left of the monitor in front of the Surface dock is a microphone.

    Just to left of my desk is a five drawer cupboard and on top of this is my HP colour printer scanner. Underneath the desk is the router, switch and plenty of wires.

    I can put my Surface side on next to the printer and its not in the way and can't fall off the desk.

    My wife has the same size desk, but she has all sorts of crap on it, so her 23 inch monitor is over to one side, the speakers touch the monitor and when she plugs the Surface into the dock it is right in the way of the keyboard and monitor and if pushed to the side is in danger of falling on the floor.

    Any one got an imaginative way to plug a Surface into its dock and it not be in the way?

    We have the display to "Show only on two" the monitors so the Surface screen is not used when in dock.
    09-25-2017 01:25 PM
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