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  1. DeNeDe's Avatar
    Windows 10 is the worst OS in the history of mankind. Even Windows 95 was better. Way better.
    I can't believe they released to the public a product like this. On top of that on the newer laptops they force you to install this piece of **** so that you can "enjoy" every feature of it.
    A couple a days ago i purchased some ASUS laptop with a Kaby Lake cpu in it and of course the only OS i could install was Windows 10(they force you do this). Windows 7 install process wont even load. And of course i said to myself, why not, lets try windows 10, they had time to make it better... uaaat!? BUL****!

    A few issues...

    1. If i remove the power cord my wifi wont work despite the fact that on windows it says wifi on and on my mobile the wifi works with no problems. The only way to make wifi work again is to plug-in the power cord again, restart the laptop. There is no other way, been testing this for the past 2 days.

    2. If i want to connect to another wifi network from the list the keyboard simply wont work. I can't type anything !!! If i put a password on my account and just before i login into windows, before i type the password, in the bottom right i got the wireless symbol.
    Then the keyboard will work and i could type the password. So if i am in Windows i can't type any password for wifi networks. OMG..uaaat!?

    3. Every time i enter new tabs in chrome, or just switching between aplications i just get a big dark empty screen and if i dont wait 3-5 secs and move the mouse like a drunk person nothing will happen, it will stay dark forever.

    So it seems after ~2 years nothing good happened with this OS. In the past i had Windows 10 Mobile and i switched to Android. It seems now i need to switch to linux also because this **** is getting out of hand.

    Hope nobody will say to update my drivers, bios and so on because everything is up-to-date!
    Propter Hawk and Demian Mioc like this.
    10-08-2017 08:55 AM
  2. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Curious. Most PCs come with an OS already installed. You say that you had to install Windows 10 on your new ASUS laptop. What's was running on it before you installed Windows 10? I don't know what exactly is going on with your laptop, but you might want to try a System Repair, a System Refresh, or a completly new installation. It sounds like something is definitely wrong with your PC though.
    10-08-2017 09:24 AM
  3. DeNeDe's Avatar
    It was FreeDOS of course. In our country most laptops either have Linux or dont have any OS at all in the store.
    I wanted to install Windows 7 because i love it, this is what i have on my regular PC but on this laptop, because of the Kaby Lake cpu and chipset they force to install only windows 10.
    I dont think anything is wrong with the laptop because i dont have any performance issues. I bet if i install ubuntu or debian i wont have these issues at all.
    On a simple google search i found out that others have the same issues or even worse.
    I need to stay like this until they give another update and hope for the best... :(
    10-08-2017 09:44 AM
  4. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Wow. You do realize that Win 10 is superior in many ways to Win 7. First you dont need that idiotic Start Menu they introduced in the Windows 95 DOS shell.

    Also the memory management and garbage collection is way more advanced. Drivers are more tightly coupled with the hardware and signed to prevent issues.

    The kernel is much faster and better written to handle multi tasking and 64-bit apps.


    I find it the best Windows OS since 2000.

    Sent from mTalk on my 950xl
    10-08-2017 10:08 AM
  5. DeNeDe's Avatar
    I agree, but without any bugs! Until then it is the worst in history.
    I dont care about start menu, or fast loading things, it is not relative to my issues.
    On my Windows 7 PC i have the same fast loading times as on Windows 10.
    10-08-2017 10:16 AM
  6. raycpl's Avatar
    LOL.. Worse than Vista ?? WinMe??

    ... !
    10-08-2017 10:46 AM
  7. th34monk3ys's Avatar
    clearly there is an issue and not windows 10 here! this sounds like a layer 8 issue. First off reinstall and re download drivers not even the insider builds are that bad.
    10-08-2017 11:39 AM
  8. Guytronic's Avatar
    I'm not seeing very many bugs anymore on the notebook I bought earlier this year with W10 installed.

    The freebie upgrade version gave me fits a few times on the older desktop that was replaced... this was mostly with browsers.
    The creators update finally killed the AMD based desktop we had so that gave me the excuse to move to a newer Intel based PC.

    Windows 10 on this ACER notebook runs beautifully so far with some slowdowns while using the Firefox browser.
    10-08-2017 11:58 AM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    I certainly don’t think it’s the worst ever...cough, cough...Vista....but it certainly is not enjoyable to use on my laptop. That’s why I’ve moved to a different operating system.
    Elky64 likes this.
    10-08-2017 12:09 PM
  10. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    It was FreeDOS of course. In our country most laptops either have Linux or dont have any OS at all in the store.
    I wanted to install Windows 7 because i love it, this is what i have on my regular PC but on this laptop, because of the Kaby Lake cpu and chipset they force to install only windows 10.
    I dont think anything is wrong with the laptop because i dont have any performance issues. I bet if i install ubuntu or debian i wont have these issues at all.
    On a simple google search i found out that others have the same issues or even worse.
    I need to stay like this until they give another update and hope for the best... :(
    Oh. I didn't understand. I'm sorry I couldn't help. Hopefully, someone will offer a better solution, and your issue gets resolved.
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    10-08-2017 12:20 PM
  11. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I certainly don’t think it’s the worst ever...cough, cough...Vista....but it certainly is not enjoyable to use on my laptop. That’s why I’ve moved to a different operating system.
    Just out of curiosity, was your laptop an upgrade to W10 or did you buy it with Win10 preinstalled? To what OS did you end up moving?
    Guytronic likes this.
    10-08-2017 12:23 PM
  12. TgeekB's Avatar
    Just out of curiosity, was your laptop an upgrade to W10 or did you buy it with Win10 preinstalled? To what OS did you end up moving?
    It was an update to Windows 10. A few years old and certainly not top of the line, but should have been able handle an OS upgrade.

    I bought a 2013 MacBook Pro and updated it to High Sierra. Runs like a top plus I had already moved to iPhone so it made sense.
    10-08-2017 12:26 PM
  13. PerfectReign's Avatar
    To the OP - if you are having such issues then run Ubuntu and load either a VM with Win7 or run Crosssover Office (https://www.codeweavers.com/) to run Win32 apps. I did this for a few years to avoid the abomination that was ExPee

    Sent from mTalk on my 950xl
    10-08-2017 12:34 PM
  14. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    It was an update to Windows 10. A few years old and certainly not top of the line, but should have been able handle an OS upgrade.

    I bought a 2013 MacBook Pro and updated it to High Sierra. Runs like a top plus I had already moved to iPhone so it made sense.
    Yeah. I understand. One of MS's biggest hurtles, in my opinion, is making sure that all updates function on such a huge variety of devices with different specs. Apple is in a much better position when it comes to updates. I'm glad you're enjoying your MacBook. It's definitely a nice device.
    aximtreo and Guytronic like this.
    10-08-2017 12:36 PM
  15. LumPhile's Avatar
    Windows 10 is the worst OS in the history of mankind. Even Windows 95 was better. Way better.
    I can't believe they released to the public a product like this. On top of that on the newer laptops they force you to install this piece of **** so that you can "enjoy" every feature of it.
    A couple a days ago i purchased some ASUS laptop with a Kaby Lake cpu in it and of course the only OS i could install was Windows 10(they force you do this). Windows 7 install process wont even load. And of course i said to myself, why not, lets try windows 10, they had time to make it better... uaaat!? BUL****!

    A few issues...

    1. If i remove the power cord my wifi wont work despite the fact that on windows it says wifi on and on my mobile the wifi works with no problems. The only way to make wifi work again is to plug-in the power cord again, restart the laptop. There is no other way, been testing this for the past 2 days.

    2. If i want to connect to another wifi network from the list the keyboard simply wont work. I can't type anything !!! If i put a password on my account and just before i login into windows, before i type the password, in the bottom right i got the wireless symbol.
    Then the keyboard will work and i could type the password. So if i am in Windows i can't type any password for wifi networks. OMG..uaaat!?

    3. Every time i enter new tabs in chrome, or just switching between aplications i just get a big dark empty screen and if i dont wait 3-5 secs and move the mouse like a drunk person nothing will happen, it will stay dark forever.

    So it seems after ~2 years nothing good happened with this OS. In the past i had Windows 10 Mobile and i switched to Android. It seems now i need to switch to linux also because this **** is getting out of hand.

    Hope nobody will say to update my drivers, bios and so on because everything is up-to-date!
    Windows 10 can be really enjoyable at times, when things are humming along, but a real pita when things go awry! And, compared to Windows 7, the possibility of something going awry is significantly increased.

    I can understand your exasperation, having been a victim myself. I'm guessing you clean installed the Creators Update? If so, I would advise that you get ahold of the original version, 1511 I think, and do the clean install from that, and then do an in place upgrade to CU.

    I had countless problems, and wasted time, with a clean install of CU, but was able to weather the storm with the aforementioned procedure. Good luck
    Elky64 likes this.
    10-08-2017 01:26 PM
  16. Elky64's Avatar
    If diagnosing and applying fixes seems to be taking forever and a day to resolve your problem(s), then I suggest you do a fresh/reinstall of Windows 10.

    Problems like yours are one of the main reasons I personally want to distance myself from Windows 10, Version Updates are another. If we manage to get things sorted in a prior build finding it pretty much a given now that the next version will "F" something up - Some of my PC's have just started getting the Creators Update, batting 3-for-3 on the fail scale as all ended up not being able to boot into Windows, got them sorted but not without some timely intervention on my part.

    So Windows 10 may not be the worst in the usability sense but when it comes to installing an update successfully, or Windows inability to logically diagnose and apply a fix, yup it's the worst IMHO.
    Last edited by Elky64; 10-08-2017 at 02:18 PM.
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    10-08-2017 01:44 PM
  17. nate0's Avatar
    LOL.. Worse than Vista ?? WinMe??

    ... !
    IMO Vista tops the charts as the worst.
    raycpl and Guytronic like this.
    10-08-2017 07:10 PM
  18. GhostEchelon's Avatar
    IMO Vista tops the charts as the worst.
    Was worst only cause hardware makers didn't have the right hardware and not up to date drivers....

    Run Windows Vista now and I bet it be blazing fast on modern Computers.
    10-08-2017 09:49 PM
  19. nate0's Avatar
    Was worst only cause hardware makers didn't have the right hardware and not up to date drivers....

    Run Windows Vista now and I bet it be blazing fast on modern Computers.
    I have a iso of vista business still on hand, and might take you up on that challenge.
    10-08-2017 10:48 PM
  20. GhostEchelon's Avatar
    I have a iso of vista business still on hand, and might take you up on that challenge.
    I ran it with 4gb of ram ddr2 with a intel Celeron d i believe on desktop. It ran good. Though it be intreating if you ran it on today computer to see how faster it runs.
    10-08-2017 11:06 PM
  21. nate0's Avatar
    I ran it with 4gb of ram ddr2 with a intel Celeron d i believe on desktop. It ran good. Though it be intreating if you ran it on today computer to see how faster it runs.
    Faster is only one aspect of how something runs on hardware. That in itself is subjective in many ways. It might be fast as all get out around the OS in and out, but as soon as you open an app it might get sucked down to nothing. Vista never ran well on anything less than 4 GB from what I remember. Mostly what I remember is how poorly the OS managed RAM. I think volatile memory management was what it did poor in that was a most obvious sore area for Vista. It was supported up to April this year. So its possible it kept improving. When did you last run it live? Vista had many interesting and good features that W7 took and ran with, kinda how W8 still sorta lives inside W10 a bit.
    Guytronic likes this.
    10-09-2017 12:09 AM
  22. matt john2's Avatar
    Yeah. I understand. One of MS's biggest hurtles, in my opinion, is making sure that all updates function on such a huge variety of devices with different specs. Apple is in a much better position when it comes to updates.
    Nope, not true. I've been using Surface 3 ever since it came out and the drivers craps out a lot. It's been years they still haven't fixed the damn thing, proves that Microsoft doesn't give a $h!T about quality software. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one experiencing Windows 10M's instability, and no I'm not using any pre-release version.
    10-09-2017 12:57 AM
  23. GhostEchelon's Avatar
    Faster is only one aspect of how something runs on hardware. That in itself is subjective in many ways. It might be fast as all get out around the OS in and out, but as soon as you open an app it might get sucked down to nothing. Vista never ran well on anything less than 4 GB from what I remember. Mostly what I remember is how poorly the OS managed RAM. I think volatile memory management was what it did poor in that was a most obvious sore area for Vista. It was supported up to April this year. So its possible it kept improving. When did you last run it live? Vista had many interesting and good features that W7 took and ran with, kinda how W8 still sorta lives inside W10 a bit.
    Gosh to think for a moment I believe that was like 8 years ago when I last ran Vista. That was around the time I got Windows 7 for my computer. Funny Speaking of which I still have my copy of Windows 7 dvd disk. Even though im not sure why I still hold onto it when im using Windows 10 now on my custom pc. When I got this desktop about 7 years ago I installed Windows 7 onto it since the copy I had was a Retail so I just transfer the key over to my custom pc.
    10-09-2017 01:34 AM
  24. Vishvjeet Arya's Avatar
    I'm using Windows 10 Pro on a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 series 2014 model since 2015 and after the initial 6 months it never gave me any issues. I don't even use any antivirus apart from Windows Defender and I have still to find a virus in my PC. System Mechanic keeps everything in check. There is no slowdown, no lag whatsoever I do even use DaVinci Resolve on this baby. I think the problem is with the level of maintenance you do system wise like defragging, disk checking, updating the drivers etc. These helps a lot. Cuz as far as I have experienced, windows 10 runs really smooth and almost bug free.
    10-09-2017 07:20 AM
  25. Darkgift's Avatar
    Yeah...this sounds like it's a diver issue or a hardware issue...not an OS issue.

    Sent from my Pixel using Windows Central mobile app
    10-09-2017 08:34 AM
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