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  1. Dark Mirage's Avatar
    I personally don't care about Flash. Almost all major websites these days have a mobile version, which you should be using anyways so you don't rip through your data.
    09-12-2011 08:48 PM
  2. smartpatrol's Avatar
    It's a bit annoying not being able to watch non-Youtube embedded videos. Honestly though I don't miss it that much. It's nice to not have any Flash-based ads. Plus Flash runs like crap on Android phones anyway.
    09-12-2011 09:19 PM
  3. cookiemonster21x's Avatar
    Agree with everything mentioned about the 'benefits' of not having Flash (no flash ads, no battery drain, overall better web browsing experience). Also, if its a major concern for you, there are a bunch of seriously (seriously!) awesome YouTube apps available for WP7, which are far better than just having the mobile site (oh, and we do now have the YouTube HTML5 site too).

    And I do hope the world does move away from Flash to HTML5 eventually (its starting to..), but in the mean time it is a bit annoying for me personally to not have Flash on my phone:

    I avidly follow music blogs and almost every site I follow uses these little embedded flash players for streaming audio as well as videos from a number of non-YouTube sources. So for me it does bug me, but definitely not enough for me to ever even remotely consider moving to android

    Also, there are plenty of third party apps that let you enjoy other 'flashy' sites like VEVO, Vimeo, SoundClound, and probably many more, with others sure to keep coming Plus, I may or may not be working towards some apps to bring such sites to our platform in a cool and ultra metro way (in case that's a deal-breaker for you).
    09-13-2011 12:32 AM
  4. Reflexx's Avatar
    I do miss Flash, but I understand why it's not supported. Heck, even Adobe is offering Adobe Edge for HTML development now. So they see the writing on the wall.

    I mainly miss Flash on multimedia themed websites or when there are embedded videos that aren't YouTube.
    09-13-2011 12:48 AM
  5. BORIStheBLADE's Avatar
    you can have a full web browser ,that has nothing to do with FLASH

    Setting --> Applications --> Internet Explorer --> Desktop Vershion ( default sets it to Mobile vershion)
    Not exactly. I have tried both ways and still not a full web browser. I have used a Iphone and Android and " Desktop " browser is not a regular browser..
    09-13-2011 09:01 AM
  6. Rico's Avatar
    I don't really care for Flash on the desktop anymore; it seems a bit silly to try and pare it down for mobile. I don't miss it much on Windows Phone. It's too early to say that HTML5 totally bests Flash but Adobe's fighting a losing battle against it, particularly in mobile, and they know it.

    Which ones? I am very curious about that.
    You can't upload files such as pictures via file upload dialogs for instance.
    09-13-2011 09:03 AM
  7. selfcreation's Avatar
    Not exactly. I have tried both ways and still not a full web browser. I have used a Iphone and Android and " Desktop " browser is not a regular browser..
    well when i comapre it to my PC it looks the same...... its missing NONE youtube vids doh and useless adds that just slow down your phone.... aside from that... whats missing???
    09-13-2011 09:35 AM
  8. BORIStheBLADE's Avatar
    well when i comapre it to my PC it looks the same...... its missing NONE youtube vids doh and useless adds that just slow down your phone.... aside from that... whats missing???
    When I do a google search it comes up with a regular web page. When you click on the link you want it directs you to a page that was formatted for mobile by google. Then when you scroll to the bottom of the page you can click on a link to view page directly. Pretty annoying.. Ok.. So maybe its NOT the actual phone, but the way google is seeing it..
    09-13-2011 11:17 AM
  9. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I only miss flash the one or two times a month I go to a linked video on my phone's web browser and it says.."you need to install...." that's about the only time.
    09-13-2011 02:39 PM
  10. corinthos's Avatar
    I want flash just as long as it gives you the ability to turn it off. I wouldn't leave it on all the time but there are some good games on kongregate.com that were for mobile that I used to play on my android all the time. Also some videos and websites that I want to visit.
    09-14-2011 12:44 PM
  11. ryude's Avatar
    Which ones? I am very curious about that.
    If I try to view MyPay, it won't work. I am guessing it's a javascript problem. Many websites don't align correctly, or don't work the way they should. Not having flash is one thing, but not being able to use websites is another.

    Probably 90% of websites work fine, but it's the 10% that don't that are related to my job (Air Force).
    09-14-2011 04:19 PM
  12. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    You kidding right?
    well when i comapre it to my PC it looks the same...... its missing NONE youtube vids doh and useless adds that just slow down your phone.... aside from that... whats missing???
    Engadet, for one, is a site that's 50/50 on mobile/full. I use to have the same problem with BGR.
    09-14-2011 04:20 PM
  13. Apoc's Avatar
    Adobe finally brings Flash to iPhone and iPad

    Seems as though, Adobe has finally worked out the kinks for Apple
    09-15-2011 10:16 AM
  14. starblade876's Avatar
    Adobe finally brings Flash to iPhone and iPad

    Seems as though, Adobe has finally worked out the kinks for Apple
    Doesn't seem like they worked out kinks as much as they worked around Apple... and it requires people to shell out $995 or $4500 to get that content to those devices.
    09-15-2011 10:47 AM
  15. Apoc's Avatar
    Doesn't seem like they worked out kinks as much as they worked around Apple... and it requires people to shell out $995 or $4500 to get that content to those devices.
    LOL! Didn't say it was perfect and painless..LMAO!
    09-15-2011 10:50 AM
  16. ikkf's Avatar
    YES!!! And I want them to live with me, to put them in baskets, and just to roll around!!! Sorry, I'm getting emotional. :blush:
    09-15-2011 11:14 AM
  17. sacherjj#WP's Avatar
    Coming from webOS, I never had flash until the Touchpad. Then I got used to it. However, on a phone, I'm not used to it. I'm running the Mango Dev release, so I'm not sure if this was available on NoDo, but this solves the main thing I needed flash for: logging into my bank.

    They use a flash based authentication for the "full" browser experience. With webOS, it didn't have the option to tell the site that you wanted mobile experience, in an easy way. With IE9 on Mango, I set it as "mobile" mode and authenticate at the bank. Then I set it as "desktop" mode and refresh the page. Bam, authenticated on the full version of the bank display. Nice little hack to get around not having flash.

    That said, I wish we had it. When evaluating Android and WP7, Flash, Audible, and slightly better Voice features were where Windows Phone lacked. UI and basic usability was where Android lacked, so here I am.

    For those posted above about "full" desktop experience on Mango, I've also saw issues. There is a company website that my wife uses in her business. It will not let her login, due to not handling cookie setting or redirection properly (I've not looked deeply at the issue.) With the ability to do packet sniffing through USB network connection, I might do this and submit a bug report. They do have a mobile site, and again the mobile setting allows her to get in with that. Although it is more of a hack that shouldn't be required if IE9 was more standards compliant. Whatever this web site does, it works on mobile Safari, Android and webOS phones, but oddly also fails on the Touchpad browser.
    09-16-2011 11:44 AM
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