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  1. N8ter's Avatar
    I really don't think this phone was intended to be a business phone, not a "computer on the go" like androids and iOS. The many gripes you have I don't even get bothered with because I have other devices that can do that for me. I didn't prioritize my phone to be a business device.

    I know I know, some of these features aren't only used in business functions, but you really have to take WP7 for what it is, and that is step 2 in the right direction. If you came into the WP7 world expecting it to be all of that, then you really should have done some extensive research before you got it. Sorry my friend, but it's not for everyone. Thankfully you have choices. I know you probably posted because you want to like WP7, but you can't because of it's shortcomings in your lifestyle, but don't worry...you'll be back when they shape up.
    When has iOS ever been a computer on the go. When will the hillarity end? iOS and WP7 share way more similarities than the two share with any other platforms.

    Neither support USB-MS or SD Cards. Both require you to pay to use your own phone as a development device without hacking it. Both Require a separate App to Sync to a PC (Android 4.0 can now sync Natively with WMP for Pic/Music/Vid since it has built-in MTP now, like Galaxy S phones had). They share many of the same shortcomings from some points of views.

    Issue is that Apple has better priorities than Microsoft. Microsoft changes things for the sake of change too many times and they put way too much priority on the People Hub and stuff like that instead of the Notification system which is the worst of the top 4 platforms (even though from a worldwide perspective WP7 is more like #5 or 6).

    Lots of people use their phones as business devices. BYOD is sweeping the nation here, as businesses realize they really don't need things like BES and with Exchange ActiveSync being so de facto they can just let people bring their own smartphones. Even from that perspective, WP7's poor Exchange policy support puts it at a disadvantage vs. Android and iOS.
    04-25-2012 12:36 AM
  2. smoledman's Avatar
    Windows Phone only becomes a "true" computing platform with Apollo. For now it's a great social-networking/casual gaming phone.
    04-25-2012 01:49 AM
  3. N8ter's Avatar
    The internals will change but I doubt Microsoft will substantially change their stance on how their platform will function, except through user backlash and that's improbable since too many people are content with getting less even when they know they need or want more.
    04-25-2012 02:15 AM
  4. cckgz4's Avatar
    Hopefully you find something that works for you. Like I said in the "Who's Enjoying Their L900" topic, it's all about the user experience.
    04-25-2012 02:38 AM
  5. AngryNil's Avatar
    WP7 touts "integration" - but with WHAT? I can't use it as a USB device - but my Sanyo feature phone does!
    This makes no sense. You can't belittle current (if limited) integration by complaining about a totally unrelated restriction.

    Synchronzing of files via ZUNE is NOT quick, nor intuitive, nor synchronistic! Files get duplicated, not deleted, or deleted on one device and not the other requiring me to follow behind the sync to clean up the mess
    How about you edit your sync settings? There's a nice button right beside the sync text.

    I cannot exchange the great pix and videos from my Arrive to my Netbook or my laptop unless I have ZUNE AND a Wi FI connection - not always available when I am in the field. WHY isn't Bluetooth file exchange turned on? But hmmm, Android does bluetooth file exchange.
    You can upload to SkyDrive or bring a USB cable. Good luck transferring a video over Bluetooth.

    And people really need to figure out a way to talk about Android's success--it's succeeding and WP7 is failing for a reason and it's not as simple as "stupid salesman" or whatever the canard of the week is.
    Android is succeeding because it's positioned by the carriers, media and hive mind as the only viable alternative to the restricted model of iOS. If people truly loved Android, Apple wouldn't be raking in majority of smartphone sales in America, predominantly with a single device.


    Some of you obviously haven't used Android in a couple years, have you?
    Oh, you mean some haven't used Android 4.0, which is on 3% of Android devices? Pre-ICS is quite simply awful, reminds me directly of a feature phone or Windows Mobile experience.
    Last edited by AngryNil; 04-25-2012 at 02:57 AM.
    04-25-2012 02:45 AM
  6. N8ter's Avatar
    Android is succeeding because it's positioned by the carriers, media and hive mind as the only viable alternative to the restricted model of iOS. If people truly loved Android, Apple wouldn't be raking in majority of smartphone sales in America, predominantly with a single device
    Wrong and disingenuous.

    Android's also succeeding because it's not discriminating it's userbase. It's good for pretty much all purposes, consumer and business users can use it. The same cannot be said for WP7. This platform put itself at an instant disadvantage by snubbing business users when it was released right aroudn the time when the BYOD phenomenon in businesses was picking up steam. They lose a lot of potential marketshare by doing that (WM/BB to WP7 conversions, in particular).

    Secondly, your facts are wrong. Apple has the 3GS, 4, and 4S on the market right now and they're still behind Android for Marketshare in the USA - and solidly behind. Google has more momentum here than Apple does. Apple's marketshare numbers also include a ton of iPhone 4 devices, both new 8GB models as well as people who did not upgrade to the 4S because it was released in the middle of their contracts. It also includes a ton of iPhone 3GS devices.

    Lastly, you completely misunderstood his first statement... His point was what good is the integration (which is at best on par with Sense/TouchWiz Android devices) to him when the phone doesn't support functions that are critical to him. Kind of like a dream home with no doors, mind you...

    Lastly Android is not even comparable to WM which was terribad even on the HD2. Sense and TouchWiz flagships perform well and really that hasn't been much of an issue since mid-late 2010 TBQH. The hardware overpowers pretty much all performance issues. All new Android phones are coming with ICS so it's not really much of a factor - look at the One X/S review. It's just as performant as anything else on the market running thicker/heavier applications as opposed to WP7's think client-type hubs that people rave about instant loading on.

    Anyone with the correct number of chromosomes will be buying an ICS device from here on out, not GB and there are barely any FroYo devices still being sold on the market which haven't recieved GB updates except low end devices (as in, below mid-range).

    Never understand why some people are so EMO over a smartphone OS that they have to rely on such derogatory writing and fact-bending to try to get their terrible points across.
    Last edited by N8ter; 04-25-2012 at 06:34 AM.
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    04-25-2012 06:20 AM
  7. ubizmo's Avatar
    There's always BlackBerry. You can have Bluetooth, mass USB storage, removable SD card, decent battery life and the ability to carry a spare battery, the ability to send and receive files from DropBox when in Wifi or network, view edit send/receive Word or Excel documents. You can customize notifications to your heart's content.

    Regrettably, the OS 7 devices aren't selling well because it's a "lame duck" OS until BB10 comes out in Q4 (probably). But OS 7 is actually pretty good; much smoother than earlier versions of BBOS, and the ability to use the touch screen capabilities only when you want to is very nice.

    BBOS isn't as pretty as WP, that's for sure, and its limitations are well known. But for the kinds of "in the field" work-related uses mentioned by the OP (not all of them, but many) it's still a pretty good choice. I have a WP phone because I enjoy it and I'm interested in the future of WP, but for getting things done my BB 9900 is still my "work phone."
    04-25-2012 07:41 AM
  8. bear_lx's Avatar
    There's always BlackBerry. You can have Bluetooth, mass USB storage, removable SD card, decent battery life and the ability to carry a spare battery, the ability to send and receive files from DropBox when in Wifi or network, view edit send/receive Word or Excel documents. You can customize notifications to your heart's content.

    Regrettably, the OS 7 devices aren't selling well because it's a "lame duck" OS until BB10 comes out in Q4 (probably). But OS 7 is actually pretty good; much smoother than earlier versions of BBOS, and the ability to use the touch screen capabilities only when you want to is very nice.

    BBOS isn't as pretty as WP, that's for sure, and its limitations are well known. But for the kinds of "in the field" work-related uses mentioned by the OP (not all of them, but many) it's still a pretty good choice. I have a WP phone because I enjoy it and I'm interested in the future of WP, but for getting things done my BB 9900 is still my "work phone."
    agreed, +1. for what your describing as needs... the BB seems to be a perfect match. i was just giving you a hard time over android, because the word makes me gag. lol
    04-25-2012 07:58 AM
  9. AngryNil's Avatar
    Android's also succeeding because it's not discriminating it's userbase. It's good for pretty much all purposes, consumer and business users can use it.
    You call my post incorrect then begin your rationale with an "also". That is truly disingenuous. It's got a wide feature-set, which positions it as the alternative to the iPhone. It also makes it a pretty poor platform for the average Joe, who is the one moving from a feature phone.

    If you think the explosion of the smartphone market is from business users, you're hopelessly delusional.

    Lastly Android is not even comparable to WM which was terribad even on the HD2. Sense and TouchWiz flagships perform well and really that hasn't been much of an issue since mid-late 2010 TBQH.
    Pre-ICS, Android looked and felt like a revamped feature phone OS. Samsung shipped a laggy lock screen on its 2011 flagship, no idea what you're talking about.

    Lastly, you completely misunderstood his first statement... His point was what good is the integration (which is at best on par with Sense/TouchWiz Android devices) to him when the phone doesn't support functions that are critical to him.
    And you say I'm bending the truth? Go re-read the sentence I quoted from his post.

    To end this - last time I checked, the iPhones accounted for the majority of smartphone sales on Verizon and AT&T in the holiday season and still held that majority in AT&T's first quarter.
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    04-25-2012 07:58 AM
  10. scottcraft's Avatar
    As far as android versus iphone sales, I would like to see some statistics showing what percentage of android sales are from phones that cost $50 or less. Currently the only iphone in that price range is the 3GS on AT&T. I am of the opinion that low priced android phones are part of the reason for android having the market share it has. I am interested to see how android sales are affected when the next iphone is released. Verizon and AT&T should both have the iphone at free or near free, mid-range and top end prices.
    04-25-2012 08:26 AM
  11. tekhna's Avatar

    Android is succeeding because it's positioned by the carriers, media and hive mind as the only viable alternative to the restricted model of iOS. If people truly loved Android, Apple wouldn't be raking in majority of smartphone sales in America, predominantly with a single device.

    Try again. You're just restarting everything everyone else has said before. There's a reason Android is winning, and truthfully Microsoft should have had every advantage in the world coming into this fight, so again the question, why is WP7 getting crushed?

    I argued in another thread:
    That's my point--WP7 didn't make an impression at all. Like basically nothing. It's not about bad impressions, it's just that when you don't make an impression at all no one remembers you're there. I'd bet outside of nerd circles and those people who ran into a WP7 phone at a store, no one knows it exists. My dad, who's relatively tech savvy (for a guy his age) and uses Microsoft products for everything except his phone didn't even know Microsoft had a phone OS anymore.

    I'd be willing to bet if you went around asking random folks on the street what they know about WP7, I'd bet half of them would tell you they didn't even know Microsoft made a phone OS anymore. It's not just that WP7's marketshare is effectively 0%, their mindshare is effectively 0% too, outside of design and nerd circles.

    So why?



    Oh, you mean some haven't used Android 4.0, which is on 3% of Android devices? Pre-ICS is quite simply awful, reminds me directly of a feature phone or Windows Mobile experience.
    I'd bet 3% of Android phones is more than all WP7 phones sold ;)
    Gingerbread was a big step forward, ICS even more so.
    04-25-2012 09:46 AM
  12. tekhna's Avatar
    As far as android versus iphone sales, I would like to see some statistics showing what percentage of android sales are from phones that cost $50 or less. Currently the only iphone in that price range is the 3GS on AT&T. I am of the opinion that low priced android phones are part of the reason for android having the market share it has. I am interested to see how android sales are affected when the next iphone is released. Verizon and AT&T should both have the iphone at free or near free, mid-range and top end prices.
    I'd be curious too, but I'd bet it's few than you expect. I know some of the best-selling Android phones are the Galaxy SII and the Galaxy Note, which aren't exactly cheap.
    04-25-2012 09:47 AM
  13. Forgewizard's Avatar
    There's always BlackBerry. You can have Bluetooth, mass USB storage, removable SD card, decent battery life and the ability to carry a spare battery, the ability to send and receive files from DropBox when in Wifi or network, view edit send/receive Word or Excel documents. You can customize notifications to your heart's content.

    Regrettably, the OS 7 devices aren't selling well because it's a "lame duck" OS until BB10 comes out in Q4 (probably). But OS 7 is actually pretty good; much smoother than earlier versions of BBOS, and the ability to use the touch screen capabilities only when you want to is very nice.

    BBOS isn't as pretty as WP, that's for sure, and its limitations are well known. But for the kinds of "in the field" work-related uses mentioned by the OP (not all of them, but many) it's still a pretty good choice. I have a WP phone because I enjoy it and I'm interested in the future of WP, but for getting things done my BB 9900 is still my "work phone."
    @ irlju: Umm, hello? That's exactly my point! AN outdated (?) Feature Phone like my Sanyo scp-8400 CAN be used as a simple USB device - but this new high tech SMARTPHONE can' be read via usb cable? NOR does it have an on board file locater that reads device files AND the micro sd card files! I cannot create file folders on board the WP7 but can on the Sanyo! so what good is 16GB of storage if 1) I can't reach it 2) can't find it 3) can;t even organize files to suit MY needs?

    HMmmm, a Blackberry, may have to look closer at one, but the last time I did, the screen pixelation looked like it was using an original Treo screen! Also will require yet another field test of my service area for signal reception. Have run across very few BBs out in the field and none of them were getting cell signal from either carrier, yet I was getting signal from Sprint ( then on a Centro and recently on my Sanyo scp 8400). So yeah - the BB MAY be a viable alternative if the "smart" side of it sill offers functions that the WP7 doesn't. Because right now the WP7 doesn't integrate with anything! But gee, it sure looks pretty doing its OWN thing with itself! :dry

    N8tr sees my point! I've got a "dream home" with no doors! Designed by whizz bang engineers, built to the engineered specs, but sans accessible and functional plumbing. After awhile the "dream home" just stinks! But hey don't it look pretty? Just hold yer nose when you visit.....
    04-25-2012 11:12 AM
  14. bear_lx's Avatar
    Try again. You're just restarting everything everyone else has said before. There's a reason Android is winning, and truthfully Microsoft should have had every advantage in the world coming into this fight, so again the question, why is WP7 getting crushed?

    I argued in another thread:
    That's my point--WP7 didn't make an impression at all. Like basically nothing. It's not about bad impressions, it's just that when you don't make an impression at all no one remembers you're there. I'd bet outside of nerd circles and those people who ran into a WP7 phone at a store, no one knows it exists. My dad, who's relatively tech savvy (for a guy his age) and uses Microsoft products for everything except his phone didn't even know Microsoft had a phone OS anymore.

    I'd be willing to bet if you went around asking random folks on the street what they know about WP7, I'd bet half of them would tell you they didn't even know Microsoft made a phone OS anymore. It's not just that WP7's marketshare is effectively 0%, their mindshare is effectively 0% too, outside of design and nerd circles.

    So why?



    I'd bet 3% of Android phones is more than all WP7 phones sold ;)
    Gingerbread was a big step forward, ICS even more so.
    id also bet that you could ask android users if they have ICS and 75% of them wouldnt even know what it was? you could also ask people what android is, back in 2009, after it had been out for only 2 years... and they would answer the same way... android is succeeding in sheer numbers due to the overwhelming number of phones it makes. both high end and low end. it will soon die once people realize there are better options. ive owned numerous high end phones, last being the razr... all of which had similar problems. androids open source OS givs you the world of possibility, but with all that customizing comes fragmentaion and lag. i dont care what you say or how you defend that. i speak form experience...

    furthermore, if you dislike wp7 so much? why are you here, in this forum? please find a better home at androidcentral.com... thats where android enthusiasts like to hang out. im not going to go to imore, or androidcentral, and troll around their forums stirring up rucus about how android or ios sucks... it makes no sense to me why people who genuinly feel that another OS is better , like to complaine about it here?
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    04-25-2012 12:19 PM
  15. tekhna's Avatar
    id also bet that you could ask android users if they have ICS and 75% of them wouldnt even know what it was? you could also ask people what android is, back in 2009, after it had been out for only 2 years... and they would answer the same way... android is succeeding in sheer numbers due to the overwhelming number of phones it makes. both high end and low end. it will soon die once people realize there are better options. ive owned numerous high end phones, last being the razr... all of which had similar problems. androids open source OS givs you the world of possibility, but with all that customizing comes fragmentaion and lag. i dont care what you say or how you defend that. i speak form experience...

    furthermore, if you dislike wp7 so much? why are you here, in this forum? please find a better home at androidcentral.com... thats where android enthusiasts like to hang out. im not going to go to imore, or androidcentral, and troll around their forums stirring up rucus about how android or ios sucks... it makes no sense to me why people who genuinly feel that another OS is better , like to complaine about it here?
    I don't dislike WP7. I'm waiting for a WP7 phone on Verizon. But the hatred and misunderstanding of Android here is inexplicable and incredibly off-putting. I agree that Android's marketshare could very possibly fall--Apple is selling a ****ton of iphones. And your reasoning re: Android/WP7 don't really make sense--there were a ton of WP7 phones released by multiple manufacturers. Microsoft was smart not to go the Apple route there.
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    04-25-2012 12:48 PM
  16. AzD's Avatar
    Somebody kill this thread.

    Guy comes on complaining about known WP7 issues, raves about Android. Why? What's the point?

    Like nobody here has ever used Android before...
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    04-25-2012 01:16 PM
  17. bear_lx's Avatar
    it makes sense... microsoft at this moment has a total of what, 10-15 phones to choose from? maybe a few more.... android has 100's. that was my point. that alone will increase marketshare exponantially. we are passionate about our OS , thats all. i remember being in the android central forums and waiting days to get a response. its not like this forum. we are supporting an OS that nobody cares about, because they simply dont know enough to care. we are in an uphill battle against two mobile giants, and defend our OS daily. we have to listen to all the hate threads, blogs, news, rumors, ect...and it gets old. all i want is for people to understand that although it may not be for everyone, our platform is BEAUTIFULY DIFFERENT. and even with its limitations, it preforms better than android. so a lot of the strong comments, come from our passion. and if we didnt have to listen to all the negativity all the time, maybe things would be different.
    04-25-2012 01:19 PM
  18. based_graham's Avatar
    Windows phone is not meant to be a mobile PC its meant to be a companion device for PC users.
    04-25-2012 05:49 PM
  19. fisci's Avatar
    why do people buy a $100 android phone and then complain that it's slow?? derp derpp

    I have no issues whatsoever on my galaxy s2, and battery life is much better than my wp7 was... That's also considering it is ten times as powerful and I can do way more on it.

    These arguments always turn into a bunch of made up bs about android and a bunch of whiny fanboys being all jelly...

    U MAD??
    04-25-2012 08:36 PM
  20. Forgewizard's Avatar
    Somebody kill this thread.

    Guy comes on complaining about known WP7 issues, raves about Android. Why? What's the point?

    Like nobody here has ever used Android before...
    oh fer cryin' out loud! I did NOT "rave about Android"! While I did post about "known WP 7issues - there have been at least TWO count them TWO MS updates as afar as I know since the WP7 inceptionand these "known issues" did NOT get addresses in EITHER update! Not Mango from Nodo and not in the 8107 so it makes one wonder WHAT is going to NOT also be in the "Apollo" update?

    Is it raving to recognize that Android phones seem to be doing the basics that WP7 is lacking? Is it raving to KNOW that my ancient SCP 8400 Sanyo FEATURE phone can do things this HIGH END SMARTPHONE cannot?

    Do I have a laptop? Yes - it weighs 7 lbs and is also a convertible tablet PC - but not exactly something I want to tote around much.
    Do I have a netbook? Yes, but even this isn't as portable as a SMARTPHONE.
    Do I have a PDA? Yeah - a few - A Toshiba E4 something or other running windows mobile and a Palm T3, not to mention my archaic HP 620LX. Out of those 3 I suppose I could resurrect the Palm T3 because the Toshiba's memory is volatile and disappears if the battery goes dead! And the HP runs wince. The T3 only supports up to 2GB SD cards, which I can swap out my Camera card into the T3 like I used to years ago. AND I have extended battery packs for two of these devices and a power inverter for the jeep.

    So I suppose I could revert to what I did and used what was fairly decent back over 5 years ago....

    a laptop, a pda, a digital camera, a cell phone, a library of media cards - one with spreadsheets, one with business contacts and word documents, one with presentations and one with music, and power supply to go - but gee I THOUGHT that's what SMARTPHONES were DESIGNED to do -
    combine these things into one professional, functional, connectable device!

    Oh but silly me - what was I thinking? No a SMARTphone is NOT meant to be a PDA and a communication device and a mobile office terminal, uh uh a SMARTPHONE is simply a glorified NES or PSP for ANgry Birds!

    Gee whiz! The horrors of expectations to get my money's worth or to believe the manufacturer about getting things done - or integration! And how dare I say I saw an Android phone do something that WP7 cannot - when these WP7 devices are just sooo sleek and smooth and look so beautiful!

    oh wait! does that mean that WP7 is the gorgeous dumb blonde in the room? Great chassis, but vacant upstairs? no wonder so many of you are getting defensive - oh don't pick on the pretty one... she can't help it if she's built like that. Who cares if she can't count to ten or tie her own shoes? Don't she look grand?

    ACK!
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    04-25-2012 09:11 PM
  21. AngryNil's Avatar
    @ irlju: Umm, hello? That's exactly my point! AN outdated (?) Feature Phone like my Sanyo scp-8400 CAN be used as a simple USB device - but this new high tech SMARTPHONE can' be read via usb cable? NOR does it have an on board file locater that reads device files AND the micro sd card files! I cannot create file folders on board the WP7 but can on the Sanyo! so what good is 16GB of storage if 1) I can't reach it 2) can't find it 3) can;t even organize files to suit MY needs?
    Emphasis: YOUR needs.

    Next to no one gives a damn whether the operating system is more capable - if they did, the iPhone would have catastrophically flopped. The mass market doesn't need to make freaking file folders on their phones. Microsoft is not aiming at a niche audience such as yours, and if they did they'd either doom themselves to their current market share, or become the jack of all trades and master of none - Android in its infancy.

    Simple version: get over yourself. Your specific needs are in no way indicative of the smartphone market, which is widening by the day as users come from feature phones - yes, ones with file explorers - to smartphones. A heck of a lot of them seem to be picking up iPhones, especially in America. A smartphone is not defined by the raw amount of functionality possible, or indeed by specific use cases that certain individuals love to bring up time and time again.

    But by all means, if you think you've really cracked the puzzle and know how to define a smartphone - go and call up Ballmer and Cook, and give them a piece of your mind. I'm sure executives at Apple and Microsoft have NEVER heard similar complaints - you must be a genius to come up with them!

    No, but really - bugger off with this nonsensical filth.


    Try again. You're just restarting everything everyone else has said before. There's a reason Android is winning, and truthfully Microsoft should have had every advantage in the world coming into this fight, so again the question, why is WP7 getting crushed?
    I don't have to try again when you've done nothing to refute my points. You can't bludgeon your way through this one, you're on a Windows Phone forum. Get your act together then we'll talk.

    Fact: great products flop in the market. Google has a good name with consumers, and entered the market at the right time. It was alleviated to success through significant pushes by certain carriers who needed an alternative to the iPhone. It got in to the market when an alternative was required. Now, it's the Symbian period all over again, where the mass market has a device that's better than what they had before (unnamed proprietary OSes), but still not geared towards making their experience better and simpler.

    Why does Windows Phone have the advantage? It doesn't have carrier support, it's late, it's now a saturated market, and Microsoft is not a notable brand in the way Google and Apple are. Truth be told, I'm not even going to bother to read your reasoning, since your opening paragraph was so damn awful.
    Last edited by AngryNil; 04-25-2012 at 11:56 PM.
    04-25-2012 11:41 PM
  22. cckgz4's Avatar
    why do people buy a $100 android phone and then complain that it's slow?? derp derpp

    I have no issues whatsoever on my galaxy s2, and battery life is much better than my wp7 was... That's also considering it is ten times as powerful and I can do way more on it.

    These arguments always turn into a bunch of made up bs about android and a bunch of whiny fanboys being all jelly...

    U MAD??
    And it's a rinse and repeat and just replace the name of the OS on the competing forums. So let's not pretend it's just on this board. I'm a member of Crackberry and AndroidCentral and they ALL sing the same sad pathetic songs
    04-26-2012 02:04 AM
  23. cckgz4's Avatar
    oh fer cryin' out loud! I did NOT "rave about Android"! While I did post about "known WP 7issues - there have been at least TWO count them TWO MS updates as afar as I know since the WP7 inceptionand these "known issues" did NOT get addresses in EITHER update! Not Mango from Nodo and not in the 8107 so it makes one wonder WHAT is going to NOT also be in the "Apollo" update?

    Is it raving to recognize that Android phones seem to be doing the basics that WP7 is lacking? Is it raving to KNOW that my ancient SCP 8400 Sanyo FEATURE phone can do things this HIGH END SMARTPHONE cannot?

    Do I have a laptop? Yes - it weighs 7 lbs and is also a convertible tablet PC - but not exactly something I want to tote around much.
    Do I have a netbook? Yes, but even this isn't as portable as a SMARTPHONE.
    Do I have a PDA? Yeah - a few - A Toshiba E4 something or other running windows mobile and a Palm T3, not to mention my archaic HP 620LX. Out of those 3 I suppose I could resurrect the Palm T3 because the Toshiba's memory is volatile and disappears if the battery goes dead! And the HP runs wince. The T3 only supports up to 2GB SD cards, which I can swap out my Camera card into the T3 like I used to years ago. AND I have extended battery packs for two of these devices and a power inverter for the jeep.

    So I suppose I could revert to what I did and used what was fairly decent back over 5 years ago....

    a laptop, a pda, a digital camera, a cell phone, a library of media cards - one with spreadsheets, one with business contacts and word documents, one with presentations and one with music, and power supply to go - but gee I THOUGHT that's what SMARTPHONES were DESIGNED to do -
    combine these things into one professional, functional, connectable device!

    Oh but silly me - what was I thinking? No a SMARTphone is NOT meant to be a PDA and a communication device and a mobile office terminal, uh uh a SMARTPHONE is simply a glorified NES or PSP for ANgry Birds!

    Gee whiz! The horrors of expectations to get my money's worth or to believe the manufacturer about getting things done - or integration! And how dare I say I saw an Android phone do something that WP7 cannot - when these WP7 devices are just sooo sleek and smooth and look so beautiful!

    oh wait! does that mean that WP7 is the gorgeous dumb blonde in the room? Great chassis, but vacant upstairs? no wonder so many of you are getting defensive - oh don't pick on the pretty one... she can't help it if she's built like that. Who cares if she can't count to ten or tie her own shoes? Don't she look grand?

    ACK!
    LMAO while I'm all for you getting something that works for you, generalizing the OS and making god awful sexist comparisons to women is pointless and cliche'. For most of your notification problems, for someone like me who has tried all OS' out there, I could care less about seeing that light go off until I check my notification. TBH it annoyed me that it wouldn't stop until something was checked. And I have no problems with Microsoft documents and opening things in skydrive and my experience is pleasant

    But that's the problem: People REPEAT themselves in a topic to try and rub their opinions off as a guideline for others to follow. Just find what you need and be done with it
    04-26-2012 02:08 AM
  24. cckgz4's Avatar
    I'm 100% sure I can approach all of my family and friends with an Android device (OFFLINE) and they probably wouldn't know they had a file explorer, let alone what it's meant for. "Well can't I just go into said app and manually delete and change stuff in there" would PROBABLY be the general answer. So yeah, it's all about what works for you. I personally don't mind input from members saying what they like to see in WP but the CONSTANT rehashing from certain members in SEVERAL topics is overly annoying. It's like that across Mobile Nation
    04-26-2012 02:11 AM
  25. eastbayrae's Avatar
    One aspect of the integration is with Office, which it does very nicely.

    I really don't understand these posts. If you don't like it take it back and be done with it. Why bother posting about it?
    04-26-2012 02:20 AM
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