07-17-2014 06:16 AM
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  1. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    It is sad really. What everyone should be screaming for is better Skype, better Facebook, better Twitter, better Whatsapp. Microsoft has made a huge leap as far as updating the software is concerned. Still all these apps are ruining day to day user experience. Not the OS. Yes, a firmware to match software to fix hardware specific issues is a good thing, a really good thing. The reason you've never had to think of firmware updates on your iPhone is because it has a single manufacturer of software and hardware - Apple. You never had a luxury of choosing between 10 different brands and types of hardware.

    On WP, we have tons of OEMs that make one model a year to 6 a year. WP8.1 update comes to ALL WP handsets. That means it is a software update coming from Microsoft to following handsets:
    Nokia Lumia 520,
    520T,
    521,
    525,
    526,
    620,
    625,
    630,
    630 Dual SIM,
    635,
    720,
    720T,
    810,
    820,
    822,
    920,
    920T,
    925,
    925T,
    928,
    930,
    Icon,
    1020,
    1320 and
    1520.
    Also, HTC 8S,
    8X,
    8XT.
    Samsung Ativ S,
    Huawei Ascend W1.

    I may have missed out a few here but that makes it ONE software update for 30 DIFFERENT hardware configurations.

    When was the last time an iPhone software update was applicable to more than 3 different iPhone hardware, made by 3 different OEMs?

    You see why Cyan is so critical for the masses?
    07-15-2014 11:23 AM
  2. pahutakz's Avatar
    Seriously that's all? Oh I know what the next complaint is gonna be.
    probably 101% XB Apps and Notification Center.
    07-15-2014 11:34 AM
  3. rpac78's Avatar
    Why Lumia Cyan update?

    Because I have a 1520 and it's supposed to improve on the already amazing camera and also bring much new improvements to Creative Studio, etc. But isn't 8.1 basically incomplete without Cyan? Cyan is what makes 8.1 device specific (from my limited understanding).

    I also came from an Apple iPhone and I was just as curious about the next IOS and what it would bring to my phone.
    Chris Sandiford likes this.
    07-15-2014 11:37 AM
  4. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    Watch the Cyan video on the main site - there's a whole heap of goodies coming with Cyan that aren't delivered with DP, not least the new camera stuff, improved Creative Studio and device hub.

    Cyan brings handset manufacturer specific goodness.

    **EDIT - while I was typing this, rpac said the same thing
    07-15-2014 11:41 AM
  5. David P2's Avatar
    Any chance we can lock all the threads crying out for when the cyan update is being released now? Since the tracking page is now live I mean.
    07-15-2014 11:52 AM
  6. cbreze's Avatar
    So why is everybody screaming about that update? Really. It works flawlessly here and I don't even get what that update of firmware should make better.
    Might make things worse for some so then they'd have new issues to b!tch about. I generally look forward to updates but usually wait for the dust to settle and see what the first adopters start complaining about before I decide to go for it or not. My battery life is fine now, but better is always good and that would be a plus.
    07-15-2014 12:38 PM
  7. Maximus's Avatar
    for me it's mainly for the ability to store apps and their ever growing downloaded app data on micro sd. my 6 something gigabytes of internal memory screams for free space already.
    07-15-2014 01:18 PM
  8. npoe's Avatar
    I have some stability problems that'll get fixed with Cyan and rolling back is not an option because WP8.1DP is way cooler for me than 8.0. One of my friends rolled back to 8.0 just to upgrade again to 8.1DP the next day.

    Also, I love updates. I really love to update stuffs... even when they don't need it.
    MikeSo likes this.
    07-15-2014 01:36 PM
  9. Jeremy D S's Avatar
    Apple issues firmware updates all the time to deal with things like poor battery life, poor wifi signal, ability to bypass the pin lock, memory leaks, illegally storing location information in a secret partition and giving it to Apple without your consent, etc.

    Nokia is working device specific firmware / hardware drivers to fix bugs with how the software interfaces with the specific hardware.

    Welcome to Windows Phone.
    MikeSo likes this.
    07-15-2014 01:52 PM
  10. wphashan's Avatar
    This is such a stupid thread. Updates are released for a reason, especially a firmware update... because the firmware needs updating. If it didn't, they wouldn't. It isn't rocket science. Just because your phone is working flawlessly doesn't mean others are (I have a few problems from 8.1 DP). There probably are problems but you just don't notice it.
    +1
    07-15-2014 02:08 PM
  11. DalekSnare's Avatar
    I hope it fixes the BT issues 8.1 caused (like the car's track progress bar doesn't work, and the phone keeps oscillating between connections to the car and my headset if the headset is on while I'm driving).

    On the other hand, I hope it doesn't unfix the Audible BT resuming bug that one of the builds of 8.1 fixed.
    07-15-2014 02:38 PM
  12. MikeSo's Avatar
    Thank you for your comment.

    I'm sorry that my thread sounds stupid. I've just gone from Apple to Windows Phone and I never ever had somebody asking at Apple forums what the firmware did. Because it just worked out of the box. Also if my phone didn't work good on the DP of 8.1 I'd move back to 8.0 which sounds logic to me. I won't go screaming at Microsoft because I believe that doesn't make sense. That's why I've became curious what this Cyan update brings. Appears that's a stupid question ..... fine.

    I think I just got my welcome to Windows Phone users.
    Oh poor little sensitive you. When you ask "What is wrong with you and your phone?" you get the same back. Don't be disingenuous and pretend you just asked something, you came out with hostility and will be met with the same.
    decaf19, Alexis-1991 and myoujin like this.
    07-15-2014 05:55 PM
  13. MDK22's Avatar
    When wil be the cyan update for abudhabi carrer mobiles ??
    Tomorrow, it's coming tomorrow ... or the 12th of never ! (whichever comes later).
    07-15-2014 05:57 PM
  14. jfa1's Avatar
    Its coming when each carrier determines after testing that its compatible with their system. Which for ATT will be longer than most I'm expecting. So I am thinking sometime before the 8.1.1 update rolls out which could be very soon.
    07-15-2014 06:13 PM
  15. trwrt's Avatar
    Now that you're on a minority platform, you too shall come to know the feeling that there is something good out there and no you cannot have it. Just give it time.
    MikeSo likes this.
    07-15-2014 06:54 PM
  16. SpaceyO's Avatar
    Don't forget that the Dev Preview is still on less than 10% of Windows phones...There are probably many in this forum that weren't comfortable downloading the Dev Preview for whatever reason.

    Cyan brings them WP8.1 finally...I'm sure some of them are a little happy about it.
    MikeSo likes this.
    07-15-2014 07:15 PM
  17. hotphil's Avatar
    When wil be the cyan update for abudhabi carrer mobiles ??
    No one knows. It will be when they release it.
    There's another thread with dates and rumours. Mostly rumours.
    07-15-2014 07:50 PM
  18. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Seriously that's all? Oh I know what the next complaint is gonna be.
    What's worse? Complaining about firmware availability or complaining about complainers?
    07-15-2014 08:00 PM
  19. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    nothing has to be wrong for them to update your phone with new firmware, firmware also brings/enables new features.
    Such as surround sound recording, live image etc. etc. etc. I hope you get the point...

    firmware != bug fixes "only"
    07-15-2014 09:15 PM
  20. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    on the side note, any news on better Skype, better Facebook app that they promised?...the one Belfiore said they were using internally? I seriously hope it's the one we have right now....
    07-15-2014 09:18 PM
  21. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I seriously hope it's the one we have right now....
    I hope you are wrong and that there is more.
    07-16-2014 06:43 AM
  22. StephanW's Avatar
    Again, no personal attack meant. Just explaining why people react this way. I'm glad your device works great - I have a Lumia 1320 myself and I too find no real problems. My buddy has a NL928 and its become real sluggish, burns through its battery in six hours. So I hope that the cyan updates solves at least a few of these issues people have been complaining about.
    It's fine to use words, I've understood the mood of your message thanks to emotions. It's good to read your comment because you've cleared some things up. I'm totally new to the smartphone-era except the iPhone. Yes there were firmware updates on my iOS device or Mac and I've understood where they stood for. But I just didn't understand this: "OS upgrade means firmware update" , I'm glad you've explained.

    You see why Cyan is so critical for the masses?
    Yes. Thanks. :)
    Same counts for what I said above.

    Oh poor little sensitive you. When you ask "What is wrong with you and your phone?" you get the same back. Don't be disingenuous and pretend you just asked something, you came out with hostility and will be met with the same.
    Perhaps I should re-write this. Because you read it differently than I wanted to say. I wanted to question why there so many people asking for the Cyan update. And I mean that there topics popping up (yes, like this one I'll admit) questioning the same. So therefor I wanted to say "What's wrong with you and your phone" and I should have said "What's wrong with your phone, there's nothing wrong now or is it you" - and I mean by that last word that any user in the world uses his or her phone differently. I've got a phone which works but that doesn't mean I use it correctly.

    There's no reason to offend people. If I did, that wasn't my intention. I hope that's clear.
    07-16-2014 06:56 AM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Think of this like your brand new PC you picked up on release day. Windows is one thing but, the hardware on the motherboard, battery, video card all need updating. The system board gets updated via a OEM firmware, this should address chipset, battery life and performance based issues.

    On the phone, you have almost the same thing, it IS a mini computer, it has a full chipset, CPU, video card, etc. The DP update is just that, SOFTWARE like Windows on the PC but, you can not manually update drivers, like you can on a PC (Windows update anyone ?).

    With the Cyan update/Firmware this should optimize the battery, CPU, display for the device you have, not just a package of software over the OS. Never mind, in my case with the ICON, it will update drivers for Bluetooth 4.0 and other tracking features.

    So, as DP works fine for the most part for me, I would love to see them "tweak" the battery a little (though I can get through a day for the most part but, there are some cases where I need to charge the phone by 7pm some days) and CPU, as when doing stuff on the phone for 5-10 min, the phone gets really hot, this type of stuff can ONLY be addressed by a Firmware update.

    So, yes, you want the firmware, it's not about people complaining (then again, people here will complain about everything) but, it's about optimizing the device for Windows Phone 8.1 and for that, I cant freaking wait....
    07-16-2014 11:52 AM
  24. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the Cyan update to fix the loud "pop" sound when skipping in a video. Other than that I'm not having any problems, except for a small sound that plays when switching songs (which I'm not sure if will get fixed).
    Yeah, this sound is quite annoying... Especially in headphones
    07-17-2014 06:16 AM
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