09-18-2014 07:11 PM
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  1. Wp8 lvr's Avatar
    we all knows how much wifi direct feature is important for all of us.. it is very useful to share big files to other phones in seconds...
    I search on official windows site then it show wp8.1 os now supports wifi direct (Minimum supported phone- Windows Phone 8.1 [Windows Phone Silverlight 8.1 and Windows Runtime apps])
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...ifidirect.aspx

    So my question is for devs- Is it possible to make apps like flash transfer and superbeam to share multiple n big files using wifi direct to other wifi direct enabled phones..??
    because file sharing via bluetooth is too slow n time consuming..

    if anyone knows any information about wifi direct in wp let me know guys..also if any develorer here can tell me that is it possible to make wifi direct featured apps to share files for wp8.1...

    reply asap
    07-02-2014 09:32 AM
  2. foxbat121's Avatar
    You will have to have the same app on both ends. WiFi direct is just a communication protocol. For file sharing, there is no standard protocol as far as I know.
    07-02-2014 10:41 AM
  3. Wp8 lvr's Avatar
    u mean there is no possibility to share files over wifi direct..
    but tell me is this possible with app which can be install on both devices to share files like flash transfer app on android...??

    tell me pls..
    07-02-2014 12:00 PM
  4. Soumya Patra's Avatar
    Exactly..I want to know the same tho thing.
    Melvinizer likes this.
    07-02-2014 12:12 PM
  5. arjun169's Avatar
    Try"easy transfer" app till now it's the closest WP has come with Wi-Fi file sharing.... Hope something similar to superbeam comes soon..
    dpkdayal and ven07 like this.
    07-02-2014 12:21 PM
  6. Torcher Death's Avatar
    Would be nice if wifi direct could be used as a sharing method from Files... saves time, data & memory, rather than having to download an app specifically for that purpose.
    07-02-2014 12:46 PM
  7. Ma Rio's Avatar
    So, WiFi direct will never allow easy file sharing as Bluetooth?
    Just select a file and boom, it's sent. No special programs, hardware requirements or things like that (OS restrictions etc...).
    07-02-2014 12:53 PM
  8. foxbat121's Avatar
    Bluetooth has well defined object exchange protocol. WiFi direct doesn't. Even within Android eco system alone, Samsung phones can only share files via wifi direct with another Samsung phone, not with any other Android phones not from Samsung. The only thing we can hope is that the built-in file sharing feature of WP OS is now capable of using WiFi direct between WP 8.1 phones, but probably won't be able to with Android or iOS without some sort of app.
    07-02-2014 01:05 PM
  9. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Bluetooth has well defined object exchange protocol. WiFi direct doesn't. Even within Android eco system alone, Samsung phones can only share files via wifi direct with another Samsung phone, not with any other Android phones not from Samsung. The only thing we can hope is that the built-in file sharing feature of WP OS is now capable of using WiFi direct between WP 8.1 phones, but probably won't be able to with Android or iOS without some sort of app.
    That was what I meant, and by the looks of it, it's useless.
    07-02-2014 01:49 PM
  10. Wp8 lvr's Avatar
    It is good if MS add wifi direct built in to share files with other wp8.1 devices..
    but also apps also important which can be installed on both devices to share files.. which will be used on all three major os.. like wp8.1, ios, droid..

    apps like flash transfer and superbeam on android are best example for it..

    built in wifi direct file sharing will be best if MS allow us to share apps and games to other paired wp8.1 devices without sharing apps personal data.. which saves lot of our internet data..
    as apps n games already requires identification from wp store so here no piracy happen as well..

    so this idea is great if MS implement it on wp8.1...
    07-02-2014 10:28 PM
  11. a5cent's Avatar
    Apparently the first few implementations popping up. More will surely follow:

    SuperBeam (Discussion on WPC)

    ShareIt (Windows Phone Store)
    07-03-2014 11:18 AM
  12. Melvinizer's Avatar
    Bluetooth has well defined object exchange protocol. WiFi direct doesn't. Even within Android eco system alone, Samsung phones can only share files via wifi direct with another Samsung phone, not with any other Android phones not from Samsung. The only thing we can hope is that the built-in file sharing feature of WP OS is now capable of using WiFi direct between WP 8.1 phones, but probably won't be able to with Android or iOS without some sort of app.
    Sorry mmy friend, I'm afraid you're wrong! I've used Super beam on aa Android phone (Karbonn titanium) to transfer a file to my Lumia.
    07-03-2014 11:49 AM
  13. Melvinizer's Avatar
    Wifi direct involves making the senders phone a server and the recipient's phone is allowed to connect to that server. And yea, all Microsoft has to do is to release few related API's so atleast the dev's could get the job done. :)
    07-03-2014 11:51 AM
  14. a5cent's Avatar
    Wifi direct involves making the senders phone a server and the recipient's phone is allowed to connect to that server. And yea, all Microsoft has to do is to release few related API's so atleast the dev's could get the job done. :)
    *cough* those APIs are publicly accessible in WP8.1 *cough*
    07-03-2014 11:54 AM
  15. Melvinizer's Avatar
    *cough* those APIs are publicly accessible in WP8.1 *cough*
    You mean they weren't accessible in wp 8.0? So that being said does that give dev's the support to program something like WiFi direct?
    07-03-2014 12:01 PM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    So that being said does that give dev's the support to program something like WiFi direct?
    Yes.
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    07-03-2014 12:14 PM
  17. dpkdayal's Avatar
    Thank you
    07-03-2014 02:53 PM
  18. pdelvo's Avatar
    I played around with the apis but I dont think they work.
    07-03-2014 03:06 PM
  19. dpkdayal's Avatar
    Easy transfer works you can transfer your file to android windows and window phone using wifi
    07-03-2014 03:22 PM
  20. foxbat121's Avatar
    Sorry mmy friend, I'm afraid you're wrong! I've used Super beam on aa Android phone (Karbonn titanium) to transfer a file to my Lumia.
    Sorry, what part of my post is wrong?
    07-03-2014 03:38 PM
  21. AndyM72's Avatar
    You guys don't get how networking works, do you? Networking is done by layers of protocols, with each one having a set job to do. WiFi Direct is just WiFi without an access point (one of the two nodes becomes an ad hoc access point, effectively).

    Can you do file sharing with just WiFi, or just wired Ethernet (WiFi is literally just wireless Ethernet, because of the way Ethernet works it could be easily modified to wireless)? No, of course not. You need to layer transport and session protocols on top, like TCP/IP. Now can you do file sharing? Nope, you need to layer application protocols on top of TCP/IP, stuff like FTP, NFS, CIFS, even BitTorrent and Apple's AirDrop.

    So WiFi Direct support on its own will not give you file sharing.
    Soumya Patra, desosav and Amrykid like this.
    07-04-2014 12:20 AM
  22. wpgeek820's Avatar
    So, basically WP8.1 includes WiFi direct and it's useless for file sharing? If it doesn't support file sharing, then what are the other advantages of WiFi direct?

    Also, Miracast uses WiFi direct to establish connection and transfer data. Then, why can't other apps do the same?
    07-04-2014 01:39 AM
  23. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ No. That is not at all what Andy said. He just said it's not enough on its own.

    WiFi direct is just one layer in a whole stack if communication technologies and protocols required to get file sharing over ad hoc wireless networks to function.

    WiFi direct is a feature for developers, which they can use to build apps that can connect to each other over WiFi without using a dedicated AP.

    That also means that just being WiFi direct enabled, by itself, doesn't ensure two apps can communicate with each other. Compatibility between two apps requires that all the layers in the communications stack are compatible.

    Basically, WiFi direct is not an end-user facing feature.
    Last edited by a5cent; 07-04-2014 at 03:13 AM.
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    07-04-2014 03:00 AM
  24. Slim Makay's Avatar
    Hmmmn! I can't wait for file sharing apps that use WiFi.
    07-04-2014 03:07 AM
  25. Wp8 lvr's Avatar
    what do you mean.. ther is no possibility of file sharing app using wifi direct feature for wp8.1 platform..

    reply fast and explain in simple manner..
    07-04-2014 03:56 AM
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