09-17-2014 12:10 PM
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  1. sprtfan's Avatar
    Not sure if this is the right place or if I'm just over thinking it, but wanted to see what would be a good choice to get for a Windows phone to be used as a media player/camera/WiFi device? I'd get a Nokia 521 that has been on sale for $19 but I'm not in the right area to be able to get it. At $50 for a 521, a lot over other options start to look better for just a little more money. It will be used as camera, games, calendar, and media player for the most part. Would getting a 521 still be a good choice or should I try to find something with more ram since it will be used some for games? Would the HTC 8x or something from one of the newer makers like BLU be a better fit? I might be able to pick up a Nokia 928 used for $100. Would that be the obvious choice if still available? Thanks
    09-10-2014 10:05 PM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Since you state Camera as part of your desired use, you will probably want to get 8MP and flash out of a device. 1GB RAM would also help.

    I assume you aren't going to activate the phone onto a network and also that latest and greatest software is not a priority...

    How about one of these: Nokia Lumia 822 - Full phone specifications

    worldspy99 has two of them, both mint, one black/one white, VZW but GSM unlocked, each with Incipio case - on sale in the Marketplace. Either one $95

    Check 'em out - might fit the bill perfectly, especially as they take a microSD card.
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/mar...822-black.html
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/mar...822-white.html
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    09-11-2014 02:08 PM
  3. badcat's Avatar
    Agreed on the 822. It's quick enough, got a decent camera and has SD card support. Plus wireless charging if you have the required backshell. Yes, I have an 822.
    09-11-2014 08:05 PM
  4. sprtfan's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll check those out. I picked up some extra wireless chargers when AT&T had them on clearance so that would be a plus. I might end up going with the Nokia 928 if I go the used route since the price will be about the same and it has wireless charging built in. I was hoping to get by cheaper and was trying to figure out a way to get the 521 from metropc for $19 but don't think that will work out. I also saw I can pick up a Huawei w1 pretty cheap from ebay also. The camera wouldn't be as good but would probably be good enough. Thanks for the help
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    09-11-2014 09:33 PM
  5. worldspy99's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll check those out. I picked up some extra wireless chargers when AT&T had them on clearance so that would be a plus. I might end up going with the Nokia 928 if I go the used route since the price will be about the same and it has wireless charging built in. I was hoping to get by cheaper and was trying to figure out a way to get the 521 from metropc for $19 but don't think that will work out. I also saw I can pick up a Huawei w1 pretty cheap from ebay also. The camera wouldn't be as good but would probably be good enough. Thanks for the help
    The black phone comes with a new wireless charging back, if you are interested. I might be able to find a SD card somewhere which I can their in as well if you are interested.
    09-12-2014 12:11 AM
  6. AnubhavSingh's Avatar
    According to me, Lumia720 is the best one. Has dolby, pure black screen, micro SD card, is not too big in size, camera is decent too. And its prices too must have gone low due to launch (or soon to) of 730/735.
    09-12-2014 12:23 AM
  7. badcat's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll check those out. I picked up some extra wireless chargers when AT&T had them on clearance so that would be a plus. I might end up going with the Nokia 928 if I go the used route since the price will be about the same and it has wireless charging built in. I was hoping to get by cheaper and was trying to figure out a way to get the 521 from metropc for $19 but don't think that will work out. I also saw I can pick up a Huawei w1 pretty cheap from ebay also. The camera wouldn't be as good but would probably be good enough. Thanks for the help
    I have a 520 that I picked up for $39.00 but I wouldn't recommend a 512 MB device after playing with the it. Get something a little bigger with 1 GB of ram. a 928 would certainly do the job.
    09-12-2014 05:35 PM
  8. sprtfan's Avatar
    Thanks for all the ideas and I'll think about the 822 since I think it would work well. Just to add more detail, it would be a gift for my 11 year old and she may need phone service in the future and I'd want to go with a prepaid option. Most of the cheap prepaid options I've seen for Verizon phones will not work with an LTE phone and the ones that do, are to expensive. I may look into getting something that will work with AT&T so I could use H2O or a similar MVNO. This could change if PagePlus or Selectel start letting LTE phones on their plans though I guess. I have a 2 months to figure it out and hopefully some more info will come out about LTE on PagePlus or Selectel by then.
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    09-13-2014 11:28 AM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    LOL that puts a whole new spin on things... An 11 year old girl? Yep, you'll be activating service inside a year.
    09-13-2014 01:45 PM
  10. sprtfan's Avatar
    I don't have a great grasp of what works and does not work. Since the Nokia 822 is GSM unlocked, does that mean it would work on H2O or any other AT&T MVNO? Would there be any draw backs using it vs a AT&T branded phone on a AT&T MVNO?
    09-13-2014 11:37 PM
  11. badcat's Avatar
    I'm not too sure myself but I *think* that the 822 works ok on T-Mo. I also seem to remember some posts about texting issues on T-Mo but the issue was fixable. Here's a link.

    http://www.windowscentral.com/search...11&sitesearch=
    09-14-2014 05:09 AM
  12. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I don't have a great grasp of what works and does not work. Since the Nokia 822 is GSM unlocked, does that mean it would work on H2O or any other AT&T MVNO? Would there be any draw backs using it vs a AT&T branded phone on a AT&T MVNO?
    Yep, yep. Put in a SIM from any primary or mvno and use the GSM radios (they are plural).

    I'd say yes to AT&T compatibility for EDGE/3G/H+...

    T-Mo might be trickier due to their oddball 1700 MHz frequency which is missing from the radios on 822. A lot would depend on what area for T-Mo compatability. Too much for reliability; the device might be stuck on EDGE too often.

    LTE is probably right out for either. 822 is only showing me 700 MHz Class 13 LTE radio and that lets out both AT&T or T-Mo whose 700 would both be the wrong Class... There's the drawback.

    Page Plus cellular is an mvno of Vzw and is the only one I know who will activate VZW phones onto their service, some device restrictions might apply in terms of which they will activate.
    09-14-2014 10:11 AM
  13. sprtfan's Avatar
    Yep, yep. Put in a SIM from any primary or mvno and use the GSM radios (they are plural).

    I'd say yes to AT&T compatibility for EDGE/3G/H+...

    T-Mo might be trickier due to their oddball 1700 MHz frequency which is missing from the radios on 822. A lot would depend on what area for T-Mo compatability. Too much for reliability; the device might be stuck on EDGE too often.

    LTE is probably right out for either. 822 is only showing me 700 MHz Class 13 LTE radio and that lets out both AT&T or T-Mo whose 700 would both be the wrong Class... There's the drawback.

    Page Plus cellular is an mvno of Vzw and is the only one I know who will activate VZW phones onto their service, some device restrictions might apply in terms of which they will activate.
    I wouldn't care about high speed data since I'd probably pick a plan with very little data anyway. So it sound like the phone would be able to work with AT&T fine as long as the provider was willing to activate it on their system? I'll check with some of the potential AT&T MVNO that I might use and see if they will activate it. Thanks
    09-14-2014 12:09 PM
  14. worldspy99's Avatar
    Phone will work on ATT with some issues for MMS. I'll post links when I get home, in the road right now.
    09-14-2014 07:01 PM
  15. ams963's Avatar
    Blu Win JR is a good phone to use as as a media player/camera/WiFi device. It's cheap and has nice set of features. I would recommend Lumia 630 is you want a little pricier one.
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    09-15-2014 07:27 AM
  16. RumoredNow's Avatar
    ​Actually, Blu does look pretty good for a budget phone...

    BLU Win JR vs. BLU Win HD - GSMArena.com

    Careful with model and radio though to get the right fit for carrier network...
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    09-15-2014 10:45 AM
  17. worldspy99's Avatar
    Here are the settings that will help the Lumia 822 to work on Straight Talk using ATT network:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...2/211296-4.htm
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    09-15-2014 11:22 AM
  18. ams963's Avatar
    ​Actually, Blu does look pretty good for a budget phone...

    BLU Win JR vs. BLU Win HD - GSMArena.com
    The Blu Win HD is simply gorgeous. But it's more pricier than the JR. It costs $179 and Blu Win JR is $89. The HD is similar to Lumia 630 in price. It's better than 630 except for processor chipset. It has Snapdragon 200. It excels 630 in everything else. It has 1GB ram, flash, 2MP ffc, etc.

    I'm not sure of the durability and build quality of the Blu Win phones. But price and feature wise I definitely recommend them.
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    09-15-2014 12:20 PM
  19. berty6294's Avatar
    I bought my brother a Lumia 520 as a media player. He absolutely loves it and ended up purchasing an Xbox Music subscription.
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    09-15-2014 12:25 PM
  20. djslofstra's Avatar
    Since you want to use it as a camera, I would really pick a phone from the 92x range. They all have a 8.7MP Pureview camera, 2 LED flashes, Optical Image stabilization (OIS) and a bunch of Carl Zeiss lenses. The camera is really a hell lot better than the one from the 820/822, it has a HD display and it is rather fast.
    Ow and it has 2 microphones for improved call quality and improved video audio in areas with a lot of different sounds.

    If the camera isn't really a big deal, the 520 should do fine. ;)
    09-15-2014 02:26 PM
  21. sprtfan's Avatar
    Here are the settings that will help the Lumia 822 to work on Straight Talk using ATT network:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...2/211296-4.htm
    Thanks for the link. Once setup, is there any drawbacks to using the Nokia 822 on an AT&T MVNO vs using something like a Nokia 820? Would the 822 be limited to 3G while the 820 could use 4g hspa+? (I really don't care about speed. Just wanted to know if this would be a difference)
    Would the Nokia 822 actually be a better choice since I'd have an option to moving to a Verizon MVNO down the road if/when they start letting LTE phones on the network?
    Thanks
    09-15-2014 03:00 PM
  22. worldspy99's Avatar
    Thanks for the link. Once setup, is there any drawbacks to using the Nokia 822 on an AT&T MVNO vs using something like a Nokia 820? Would the 822 be limited to 3G while the 820 could use 4g hspa+? (I really don't care about speed. Just wanted to know if this would be a difference)
    Would the Nokia 822 actually be a better choice since I'd have an option to moving to a Verizon MVNO down the road if/when they start letting LTE phones on the network?
    Thanks
    You need to do the frequency research for the MVNO. I believe you will get HSPA on ATT, I could get HSPA, HSPA+ on TMO. But down the line the 822 will work seamlessly on the Verizon MVNO but no such luck with the 820.
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    09-15-2014 03:51 PM
  23. sprtfan's Avatar
    I think I'm getting things figured out right now. After some more research, my main concern with the Nokia 822 is some complaints about battery life which could be a little bit of an issue. I'm not sure how big of a deal it would be with our usage though. Mostly looking at the Blue Win Jr also but it looks like the Nokia is better in most of the specs if I understand them correctly. Thanks
    09-16-2014 12:17 PM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    I think I'm getting things figured out right now. After some more research, my main concern with the Nokia 822 is some complaints about battery life which could be a little bit of an issue. I'm not sure how big of a deal it would be with our usage though. Mostly looking at the Blue Win Jr also but it looks like the Nokia is better in most of the specs if I understand them correctly. Thanks
    I use the 810 which is the TMO equivalent of the 822 and the battery lasts me all day without any issues and I use my phone quite a bit. Hope this helps.
    09-16-2014 12:27 PM
  25. berty6294's Avatar
    Not using any cellular will help your battery life tremendously, I don't think you will have any issues.
    09-17-2014 08:55 AM
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