09-29-2013 03:00 AM
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  1. muitosabao's Avatar
    Just got my Lumia 925 today, and I have to say that the new Data Sense app is awesome. But gosh, one has to wonder, what the hell is MS doing. We all know this kind of rants are abundant and lead to very little. But! we are all supporting this WP platform (I changed from iPhone 3GS to Lumia 800 > 920 > 925) and sometimes I really wonder if they even care? There was something very similar in WP7 (way more simple ok, Counters), they took it away in WP8, but announced data sense...10 months ago if i''m not mistaken when they announced WP8. And yet it only comes now, in selected phones...
    Such a long time to implement such simple features. come the hell on guys, hurry up and get these features out! And I don't even mean proper ones, like notification center and the likes...i mean basic functionality!

    /rant
    07-17-2013 09:04 AM
  2. stmav's Avatar
    The carriers have more to do with delays of data sense than Microsoft. They are the ones that have to enable it.
    07-17-2013 09:24 AM
  3. yehuda92's Avatar
    I never understood why microsoft gave so much power to the carriers... it really is hurting windows phone...
    07-17-2013 09:31 AM
  4. muitosabao's Avatar
    The carriers have more to do with delays of data sense than Microsoft. They are the ones that have to enable it.
    care to elaborate on that? I don't see how that's related to carriers, sincerely. My 925 is unlock and has the Data Sense.
    07-17-2013 09:39 AM
  5. AndyCalling's Avatar
    The counters aspect of Data Sense can be entirely done in-phone and all the compression feature needs is an MS proxy server in the same way Opera Mini works. Nothing about Data Sense needs carrier approval, except carriers don't want compression available (saves you money and so loses them profit) or counters (allows you to challenge their measurements which in the case of Orange UK are often wrong) so some kind of 'deal' has clearly been struck with MS which hurts us all. Such is the world we live in.

    Now stop being subversive and give them your money like you're supposed to.
    07-17-2013 09:46 AM
  6. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    The counters aspect of Data Sense can be entirely done in-phone and all the compression feature needs is an MS proxy server in the same way Opera Mini works. Nothing about Data Sense needs carrier approval, except carriers don't want compression available (saves you money and so loses them profit) or counters (allows you to challenge their measurements which in the case of Orange UK are often wrong) so some kind of 'deal' has clearly been struck with MS which hurts us all. Such is the world we live in.

    Now stop being subversive and give them your money like you're supposed to.
    EExactly !! Data sense doesn't need carriers !!! It only needs carrier control if u want data compression some people just cant understand that ;)
    07-17-2013 09:50 AM
  7. thed's Avatar
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that MS made some sort of Data Sense exclusivity deal with Verizon. I even remember seeing some mention of that on Verizon's website at one point. There's no technical reason that they need carrier cooperation to put it on all phones. I guess if you want to see total usage on a shared data plan then you would need carrier support, but they could at least give everyone all the other data sense features.
    07-17-2013 09:53 AM
  8. hombreee's Avatar
    Does Lumia 925 have GDR2/Amber update?
    07-17-2013 09:58 AM
  9. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    Does Lumia 925 have GDR2/Amber update?
    Are you serious?? -_-

    Read my friend read !!!!
    Muessig and Chief_Adu like this.
    07-17-2013 10:28 AM
  10. muitosabao's Avatar
    Does Lumia 925 have GDR2/Amber update?
    yup it does. Cool features! (which sure took their time!)
    07-17-2013 12:34 PM
  11. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    yup it does. Cool features! (which sure took their time!)
    can u somehow show us evidence that your phone is unlocked please
    07-17-2013 03:16 PM
  12. muitosabao's Avatar
    can u somehow show us evidence that your phone is unlocked please
    sure, no prob. What exactly do you need? I just bought it on amazon.de and popped in my sim card. Screenshot of the about screen?
    07-17-2013 04:46 PM
  13. awkm's Avatar
    Just got my Lumia 925 today, and I have to say that the new Data Sense app is awesome. But gosh, one has to wonder, what the hell is MS doing. We all know this kind of rants are abundant and lead to very little. But! we are all supporting this WP platform (I changed from iPhone 3GS to Lumia 800 > 920 > 925) and sometimes I really wonder if they even care? There was something very similar in WP7 (way more simple ok, Counters), they took it away in WP8, but announced data sense...10 months ago if i''m not mistaken when they announced WP8. And yet it only comes now, in selected phones...
    Such a long time to implement such simple features. come the hell on guys, hurry up and get these features out! And I don't even mean proper ones, like notification center and the likes...i mean basic functionality!

    /rant
    Is Data Sense optional or something? Seems to work fine on my phone.

    And I'm not sure about this "notification centre". What do you want to display on it? My start screen gives me all the notifications I need lol
    07-17-2013 06:34 PM
  14. muitosabao's Avatar
    Is Data Sense optional or something? Seems to work fine on my phone.

    And I'm not sure about this "notification centre". What do you want to display on it? My start screen gives me all the notifications I need lol
    it gives you all the notifications if you have the live tile pined to the start screen
    07-18-2013 03:34 AM
  15. vish2801's Avatar
    I live in India, we don't have carrier branded phones here, we have to buy fully unlocked phone and still my friend has data sense in his Lumia 820. He has 3 sim cards of different carriers and he changes them frequently and all work well with data sense. Is it really a Carrier thingy ??

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    07-18-2013 06:59 AM
  16. hombreee's Avatar
    I have unlocked/unbranded Lumia 820 and I do not have data sense. Hope after GDR2 update.
    07-18-2013 08:08 AM
  17. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    sure, no prob. What exactly do you need? I just bought it on amazon.de and popped in my sim card. Screenshot of the about screen?
    yes please screenshots :)
    07-18-2013 08:35 AM
  18. stmav's Avatar
    care to elaborate on that? I don't see how that's related to carriers, sincerely. My 925 is unlock and has the Data Sense.
    Got it from this article. Whether it's correct or not is another story. No universal data counter feature in WP8 as Data Sense is carrier-dependent | WMPoweruser
    07-18-2013 08:37 AM
  19. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    Got it from this article. Whether it's correct or not is another story. No universal data counter feature in WP8 as Data Sense is carrier-dependent | WMPoweruser
    nope it doesn't really say carrier dependent
    07-18-2013 09:13 AM
  20. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    Got it from this article. Whether it's correct or not is another story. No universal data counter feature in WP8 as Data Sense is carrier-dependent | WMPoweruser
    the fact is he has an unlocked phone and he has data sense and if you looked at 925 video of allaboutwindowsphone.com you would quickly see there is no !!!!! Need for carriers
    07-18-2013 09:15 AM
  21. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    care to elaborate on that? I don't see how that's related to carriers, sincerely. My 925 is unlock and has the Data Sense.
    Jow im sstill waiting for those screenshots :/
    07-18-2013 10:52 PM
  22. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    Just got my Lumia 925 today, and I have to say that the new Data Sense app is awesome. But gosh, one has to wonder, what the hell is MS doing. We all know this kind of rants are abundant and lead to very little. But! we are all supporting this WP platform (I changed from iPhone 3GS to Lumia 800 > 920 > 925) and sometimes I really wonder if they even care? There was something very similar in WP7 (way more simple ok, Counters), they took it away in WP8, but announced data sense...10 months ago if i''m not mistaken when they announced WP8. And yet it only comes now, in selected phones...
    Such a long time to implement such simple features. come the hell on guys, hurry up and get these features out! And I don't even mean proper ones, like notification center and the likes...i mean basic functionality!

    /rant
    dude come on !!!
    07-19-2013 01:33 PM
  23. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    MS has said that Data Sense will not be available on all carriers, most recently on the Windows Phone blog post detailing GDR 2.

    While MS originally described Data Sense during the WP8 launch as both a data compression and data monitoring tool, it seems they have decoupled those features and created a Data Sense that lacks the compression feature. My guess is that this version focused on just tracking is what will be more widely released.

    What is not clear is whether carrier support is required for technical or business reasons, and how broadly this feature will be rolled out.
    07-19-2013 02:32 PM
  24. Neeraj Mathur's Avatar
    I see a lot of ppl online complaining that they did not get Data Sense even after installing GDR 2 and that it is a carrier dependent feature. My L820 "unlocked" ( running OS version 8.01.10211.20 and firmware rev 1232.5957.1308.0001) had it working out of the box. Even before putting a sim card and also works perfectly on Vodafone India network.
    07-20-2013 01:53 AM
  25. Mroofieunblockm's Avatar
    MS has said that Data Sense will not be available on all carriers, most recently on the Windows Phone blog post detailing GDR 2.

    While MS originally described Data Sense during the WP8 launch as both a data compression and data monitoring tool, it seems they have decoupled those features and created a Data Sense that lacks the compression feature. My guess is that this version focused on just tracking is what will be more widely released.

    What is not clear is whether carrier support is required for technical or business reasons, and how broadly this feature will be rolled out.
    we know that already but Microsoft doesn't take into mind how long it will take to give everyone data sense.
    They could atleast give us the option to the data sense that some unlocked phones have -_-
    Chief_Adu likes this.
    07-20-2013 03:50 AM
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