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  1. jakja83's Avatar
    I use apps such as:

    Netflix/HBO
    Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, Instagram
    Local bank which I know has a basic app
    Not much else....
    10-13-2015 05:40 AM
  2. slivy58's Avatar
    Which version do you have in terms of Hardware? I got mine from Fido and don't have any of the issues you mention on 8.1 GDR2. I do have issues on windows 10 build, but that's not a fair assessment. I have touch sensitivity set to normal as it defaults to High. I never have issues with reactions to taps or anything of that nature. Never used a screen protector as it's not needed. And I have dropped this puppy on concrete with gravel. I had to wipe the rocks off the screen and still no scratches.

    Mine is the RM-985_1000
    Chip Soc version: 8926
    Mine is the Canadian model RM-985_1011/Chip SOC Ver. 8926 on Telus, running the Feb release of W8.10.14234.375 (latest available for me), had GDR2 once but since it wasn't officially released for us I lost it later in the game after a few hard resets and trying out W10M twice. The only thing ever resolved with my handset after an update was the sporadic reboots that occurred, mine was no where near as bad as some claimed theirs were yet it did happen (once a month maybe), all the other quirks pretty much remained from day one.

    The sensitivity on mine is set to High otherwise it becomes even more unresponsive, like I said in one of my previous replies, you'd need hands-on to really get the gist of what I am saying, after sometime using it the issues (screen sesitivity/capacitive buttons) is very apparent, tolerable but can get very annoying on occasion.
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    10-13-2015 06:24 AM
  3. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    Netflix, FBook, Messenger, WhatsApp all there as official apps. Snapchat has a 3rd party app as I dont think there is an official one. (Dont know the name, dont use snapchat) Instagram is there officially but we ALL here would recommend using the 3rd party app for instagram (6tag) which funny enough seems better than the android and iPhone official apps.
    10-13-2015 06:24 AM
  4. lbeezy2188's Avatar
    Ok the L830 is a decent phone. Its snappy, good camera, and has all the features a flagship phone has. But you may have to compromise on apps. Netflix, Facebook, Messenger, Instagram/6tag. You are good to go. But there is No Snapchat or HBO app. Bank apps are few and far between.
    a5cent likes this.
    10-13-2015 06:30 AM
  5. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    6discover is 3rd party snapchat. By Rudy Huyn. 6tag developer.
    10-13-2015 06:51 AM
  6. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    snapchat 3rdparty apps do not work anymore! when was the last time you checked? at least bring up to date info.
    10-13-2015 07:48 AM
  7. AkArora's Avatar
    Well, the only problem 830 has is "Resuming". Other than that it will work for you, with an excellent shooter that is.

    Also, with W10 build 1066, I am seeing no Resuming screens at all for most recently used apps, maybe W10 is on its way to fix
    Resuming (looks like so).
    10-13-2015 08:20 AM
  8. George Jenkinson's Avatar
    I'm in the UK and have a 5S (iOS 9) and 640XL (8.1), both bought new & outright, SIM free, unlocked. (The 640XL has, largely, the same specs I believe as the 830, but a bigger 13MP camera and 5MP front, bigger screen and bigger battery but lacks Qi charging.)

    My use pattern is the same as yours - it's a work & communication tool, not an entertainment device, but the camera is very important and I dislike juddering scrolling and loading screens.

    Since upgrading to iOS 9, my 5S has become hopeless - it may recover with future updates to correct whatever Apple didn't get right first time, but scrolling is terrible and lag is now common.

    The 640XL has lag and screen loading delays, but on the whole I think it's a bit quicker all around, except for opening the camera and taking pictures. It's antennas/radios are slower than the 5S, which may slow you down if you use wi-fi much.

    I also struggle to justify 700 for a (64GB) 6S Plus (+ case on top) and then monthly contract on top again for a phone. BUT with Apple, using it does "just work" and I expect it'll manage two years with no faults just like the 5S has. Apple's app store also has the few apps available that I use.

    I bought my 640XL from Argos for 160, don't bother with a case because it's plastic, but do miss the better 5S earphones for phone calls where you can control the lot through the inline buttons on the cord. Window's app store lacks some of the apps I want to use. BUT, emails are instant on the phone whereas the 5S can have anything up to 5 mins delay (if that's important to you) and the 640XL is far better with Office - I can be ready to edit an Excel spreadsheet without effort on OneDrive with about 3 taps - the 5S is notably slower to open and also requires about 9 taps to get to the point of editing. For me this is a factor to consider.

    If you are able to wait, I'd hold on to see what the 950/950XL offer as they will be 5/7th of the cost of the Apple phone, but more productive by all accounts...
    10-13-2015 08:41 AM
  9. NelsonF's Avatar
    I am quite pleased with my L830 for the most part as a far as performance goes. It takes excellent daylight photos and quite impressive low light photos sans flash. Flash photos are hit or miss In my opinion. In terms of operating system, it handles most tasks with ease. I bet iPhone does it a bit faster with its more powerful cpu Not a big apps user but as far as battery life, wireless charging convenience, microsd card storage and phone call quality, I recommend. As others mentioned here, it's hard to directly compare with a phone that is more powerful and with an enormous apps catalogue. If you're an average user, should work for you.
    10-13-2015 08:56 AM
  10. ROBBIE HALL's Avatar
    @marius if you read my previous message, I do not use snapchat!
    10-13-2015 09:57 AM
  11. Andraz Podjaversek's Avatar
    What about a 930 ? IF you can still get it, you can get it really cheap .. And it is a better phone than 830
    10-13-2015 02:50 PM
  12. colinkiama's Avatar
    You might as well get an 830 if you want to get something cheap
    10-13-2015 09:22 PM
  13. Karen LePage's Avatar
    I love my 830. I've been using wp since PocketPC and I love this phone more than any I have ever had. It's a head-turner. My iPhone friends always ask me about it. It's really beautiful, and works well. I have had some "resuming" screens, but I'm in the insider fast ring, so I expect that as w10m gets sorted.

    The dedicated camera hardware button alone is what has kept me from an iPhone at times between new windows phones. I use instagram for my business a lot, so what would I do if i had to touch the screen to take a picture with tiny hands like mine? I would drop the phone all the time.

    My husband uses an HTC m8 but misses the hardware camera button, too. He also has a cheap nokia 635 just to use Here + Drive because it's our favorite nav. The price looks good. I say go for it!
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    10-13-2015 10:03 PM
  14. Erjon Sotiri's Avatar
    i dont understand witch app is missing in wp store? I have used ios, android and now i only use WP from lumia 520, 720, 920, and currenty i own a lumia 930 with W10M i have all the apps i need.
    10-14-2015 05:37 AM
  15. Karen LePage's Avatar
    i dont understand witch app is missing in wp store? I have used ios, android and now i only use WP from lumia 520, 720, 920, and currenty i own a lumia 930 with W10M i have all the apps i need.
    I want to stop taking my ipad mini into Starbucks. The app has never been available on WP (did someone in Redmond make the sb execs angry?)

    Periscope

    Freshbooks

    I want a better podcast app. Currently have 3 different apps loaded because add by URL doesn't work well since Zune!

    Amazon Instant Video

    Outlook i just want to add unified inbox like on my iPad - everything else is better on WP with the most recent build.

    How about some Adobe love? I use these apps on my ipad all the time and my work would be so much easier if I had access to Draw, Sketch, and Capture on my WP.

    To name a few important to me...
    colinkiama and theefman like this.
    10-14-2015 06:13 AM
  16. gordonfink's Avatar
    What about a 930 ? IF you can still get it, you can get it really cheap .. And it is a better phone than 830
    Depends on how you define cheap I suppose.
    10-14-2015 09:12 AM
  17. NelsonF's Avatar
    Good point about the screen sensitivity with 830. Forgot all about that, I guess I got used to it and forgot that this is a common occurrence with any type of screen protector on the 830. Still overall, as a day to day driver and not a hardcore user, It gets the job done.
    10-14-2015 12:53 PM
  18. bh5213's Avatar
    Love my 830 as well. Hardly any issues with mine nor has my wife complained of any with her 830. But I do wish for an amazon instant video app and a target cartwheel app.
    Karen LePage likes this.
    10-14-2015 01:01 PM
  19. ebk333's Avatar
    Dear Jakja83,

    I hated Microsoft. I was on their PocketPC's when they came out and it was all money wasted. I am not a Microsoft fan at all. In fact, I'm an iPhone/Android developer so I have interest in these 2 markets.

    But then - long story short, I discovered windows mobile. In fact, it was on a very old HTC 8x. It amazed me. The interface, the functionality, the speed. Wow... the speed was just phenomenal on this cheap, and old windows phone running OS 8.1.

    In fact, this old HTC 8x was more responsive than the iPhone 5 and Android phones. Now, anyone would tell you that. Windows OS requires less powerful hardware than an android to perform the same way; but with Android, what no one realizes (as with iPhones) - is that with every update, there is way more sluggish behavior; yet you're stuck with the same phone.

    With iPhone, what no one realizes is that you are buying into an ecosystem: its a phone that does everything for you: music, maps, photos - but no one stops to think: hang on a sec ducky; surely all these daily-life-as-usual activities require large storage space on the phone - which iphone does NOT give you. Not only that, if it did give it to you, its stuck with them. Go and find where your photos are stored on your iphone? Can you find them? Can you find them in your mac iTunes library??? No.

    OK.. let's take a look at Android. This is pathetic. Google only made this OS so it could have a slice into the mobile adveritising market. That's it. It didn't think about how phones work and what sort of ergonomics a user needs to actually use it properly. They started off with a Linux kernel (good start) and then added a Java Layer in between. Why? To make app development easier. That's it. I know, I made one of the 1st Android apps.

    They didn't think about performance, ergonomics etc. Go and find where your music is stored on an Android phone... I dare you. Its pathetic.

    Forget how inexpensive your 830 Lumia Mobile phone is - ok? If it was more expensive than the iPhone 6, I'd have still got it.

    Look at the iPhone's screen. Its only thanks to the 5 icons they let you add on the bottom of the screen that you can use it. the rest of your phone is filled with apps that you won't use, nor make any sense to you. With live tiles, the essentials are there. And whether you use an app or not, with Live Tiles, you get the essential information you need from them at a glance. So basically, all the apps you have are being used with an 830 - with an Iphone or Android, they are just taking up storage space.

    There's a subject in Computer Science called Human Computer Interaction. Its the ergonomics of software. How do you make good software and easy or comfortable to use for an end user? There are basic laws that must be respected. The main is the number of manipulations to an end result. The lower the number, the better.

    Obviously Apple are picking up on this with their 3D touch feature. Right? But Windows Mobile is already there.

    Yes, when I studied HCI more than 15 years ago, we had windows 95 on desktops , and I couldn't help notice that they broke every rule in the book. It was stupid: you'd have to click on around 4 icons to reach a document you'd want. Naturally what were people doing? Adding documents to their desktops (this slowed down the way windows performed) - why were they doing that? Because it means by 1 click, I get into the app.

    With windows 10, someone somewhere at Microsoft finally gave HCI some thought and just revamped it.

    The same with Windows Mobile 8.1 and 10. You cannot compete with the User Interface. If I have to change 2 screens on my iphone to actually get to an application I want, then it becomes uncomfortable. With windows mobile, they've done it so that you can comfortably have all your applications visible on the same screen - and there's only TWO screens.

    I'm so glad they've done this because I was beginning to think that what I had studied was stupid... where as, it seemed what MS had developed 15 years ago was stupid and it took them 20 years to actually put into practice what is now considered basic software ergonomics.

    Jakja: if you have an 830 Lumia: you have the best phone now on the market. I'm not kidding you.

    You can argue that Android phones come with higher specs.. etc.. but that's besides the point: they NEED to come with higher specs because the Andoid OS is so crap that unless you have 2 processors and 4 GB of ram, you won't be able to use the phone.
    10-15-2015 11:11 AM
  20. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Dear Jakja83,

    I hated Microsoft. I was on their PocketPC's when they came out and it was all money wasted. I am not a Microsoft fan at all. In fact, I'm an iPhone/Android developer so I have interest in these 2 markets.

    But then - long story short, I discovered windows mobile. In fact, it was on a very old HTC 8x. It amazed me. The interface, the functionality, the speed. Wow... the speed was just phenomenal on this cheap, and old windows phone running OS 8.1.

    In fact, this old HTC 8x was more responsive than the iPhone 5 and Android phones. Now, anyone would tell you that. Windows OS requires less powerful hardware than an android to perform the same way; but with Android, what no one realizes (as with iPhones) - is that with every update, there is way more sluggish behavior; yet you're stuck with the same phone.

    With iPhone, what no one realizes is that you are buying into an ecosystem: its a phone that does everything for you: music, maps, photos - but no one stops to think: hang on a sec ducky; surely all these daily-life-as-usual activities require large storage space on the phone - which iphone does NOT give you. Not only that, if it did give it to you, its stuck with them. Go and find where your photos are stored on your iphone? Can you find them? Can you find them in your mac iTunes library??? No.

    OK.. let's take a look at Android. This is pathetic. Google only made this OS so it could have a slice into the mobile adveritising market. That's it. It didn't think about how phones work and what sort of ergonomics a user needs to actually use it properly. They started off with a Linux kernel (good start) and then added a Java Layer in between. Why? To make app development easier. That's it. I know, I made one of the 1st Android apps.

    They didn't think about performance, ergonomics etc. Go and find where your music is stored on an Android phone... I dare you. Its pathetic.

    Forget how inexpensive your 830 Lumia Mobile phone is - ok? If it was more expensive than the iPhone 6, I'd have still got it.

    Look at the iPhone's screen. Its only thanks to the 5 icons they let you add on the bottom of the screen that you can use it. the rest of your phone is filled with apps that you won't use, nor make any sense to you. With live tiles, the essentials are there. And whether you use an app or not, with Live Tiles, you get the essential information you need from them at a glance. So basically, all the apps you have are being used with an 830 - with an Iphone or Android, they are just taking up storage space.

    There's a subject in Computer Science called Human Computer Interaction. Its the ergonomics of software. How do you make good software and easy or comfortable to use for an end user? There are basic laws that must be respected. The main is the number of manipulations to an end result. The lower the number, the better.

    Obviously Apple are picking up on this with their 3D touch feature. Right? But Windows Mobile is already there.

    Yes, when I studied HCI more than 15 years ago, we had windows 95 on desktops , and I couldn't help notice that they broke every rule in the book. It was stupid: you'd have to click on around 4 icons to reach a document you'd want. Naturally what were people doing? Adding documents to their desktops (this slowed down the way windows performed) - why were they doing that? Because it means by 1 click, I get into the app.

    With windows 10, someone somewhere at Microsoft finally gave HCI some thought and just revamped it.

    The same with Windows Mobile 8.1 and 10. You cannot compete with the User Interface. If I have to change 2 screens on my iphone to actually get to an application I want, then it becomes uncomfortable. With windows mobile, they've done it so that you can comfortably have all your applications visible on the same screen - and there's only TWO screens.

    I'm so glad they've done this because I was beginning to think that what I had studied was stupid... where as, it seemed what MS had developed 15 years ago was stupid and it took them 20 years to actually put into practice what is now considered basic software ergonomics.

    Jakja: if you have an 830 Lumia: you have the best phone now on the market. I'm not kidding you.

    You can argue that Android phones come with higher specs.. etc.. but that's besides the point: they NEED to come with higher specs because the Andoid OS is so crap that unless you have 2 processors and 4 GB of ram, you won't be able to use the phone.
    Honest opinion, but it is really up to everyone to chose what fits best for them. I've been using WP since Lumia 920. But with the TP release of 10 I've said goodbye...I hate what MS did. Besides app situation, now the OS is also crappy.
    10-29-2015 05:06 AM
  21. mj0's Avatar
    The one thing you will notice when comparing the Lumia 830 to an iPhone 6s is how incredibly slow it is. Everything. Seems. To. Take. Forever. To. Looooooad... Even compared to my old iPhone 5 the Lumia 830 seemed dead slow. It was so bad that at one point my wife refused to use my phone anymore because it took forever to load a website, to start an app, or to get to my text messages. Given that the 6s is a beast when compared to the 5 or even 5s you will definitely notice a massive slowdown in pretty much everything. Is it worth US $900 difference to you? Only you can tell.

    I'm curious now though, did you follow through with returning your 6s?
    11-03-2015 06:21 AM
  22. broar94's Avatar
    ^^^ agreed, ip5 is faster than my 730 as well. WP makes it purposely slow through animations( and irritating *resuming*, it sucks).. About internet browser, it's true- IE is very slow and painful.

    Think the 6S has been added with faster ssd hence its better than the original ip6 model too, apart from the 2GB ram and the upgraded A9 processor.
    Last edited by broar94; 11-03-2015 at 10:06 AM.
    11-03-2015 09:48 AM
  23. bokchoy1's Avatar
    I've been a L830 user for a year and mine has held up to my personal usage. No device is perfect but I am fairly satisfied overall. Here's my experience:

    ++Positives++
    - Glance Screen
    - good visibility in direct sunlight
    - FM radio (don't laugh, I've just spent several hellish months with no home wifi, no mobile data, no TV, etc. This was my "wireless")
    - micro-SD card slot (for the same reason above)
    - 5Ghz wifi-capable (also unexpectedly useful, great when the 2.4 Ghz band is crowded)
    - no one I've passed my phone to has noticed that it has a 720p screen (one person actually complimented it.. or maybe he was just being polite)
    - loudspeaker has excellent volume, call volume and clarity is also excellent
    - decent battery life
    - low light camera performance

    --Negatives--
    - weak vibration
    - distorted colours when viewing the screen at extreme angles
    - all attempts to use the phone with ordinary gloves failed (I'm Canadian)
    - IE is extremely feature-limited. Tab management is a chore. Too bad the alternatives aren't as fast, smooth or stable.

    I'm not much of a gamer, though I occasionally play things like Candy Crush. Many games run fine although load times are long. I do recall some more graphically-intensive games like Sonic Dash and Minion Rush having poor frame rates though.
    11-28-2015 02:24 AM
  24. janjak's Avatar
    Yes, I returned the 6s, but was to slow to get the 830-deal. I then got the 640 and used if for some weeks, but I found myself feeling limited in so many areas that I got a new iPhone 5s which I am "rocking" now. Maybe back to the 6s is best choice, despite being awfully expensive.
    12-12-2015 12:45 AM
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