10-17-2013 06:49 AM
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  1. cuwe's Avatar
    Reading the reviews on the YouTube app is ******* me off . Seems that some off them are still not realize what had happened .
    10-10-2013 03:59 AM
  2. Chregu's Avatar
    Reading the reviews on the YouTube app is ******* me off . Seems that some off them are still not realize what had happened .
    Not everybody is reading WPC or a similar homepage.

    Every normal person would just buy a phone, install the Youtube app, having a great experience, install an update and suddenly it is crap. This would **** me off too.
    10-10-2013 04:01 AM
  3. crash1989's Avatar
    Yes, that is the visible problem. It is at least working now, I am sure that if people install it and dont like the experience they will try to find alternatives and will come across the other awesome youtube apps on WP
    10-10-2013 04:04 AM
  4. cuwe's Avatar
    Microsoft is really a threat to Google .
    LastBattle likes this.
    10-10-2013 04:44 AM
  5. ohgood's Avatar
    Microsoft is really a threat to Google .
    Where?
    10-10-2013 04:54 AM
  6. ag1986's Avatar
    MS deserves the blame here. The real reason that a compliant HTML5-using app for WP is impossible is noted here:
    Internet Explorer 10 brings HTML5 to Windows Phone 8 in a big way

    Specifically:
    Differences with Windows 8

    There are some minor differences between Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 8 and Internet Explorer 10 for Windows Phone that you need to be aware of. Internet Explorer 10 for Windows Phone does not support the following:

    Inline video

    To clarify, a third-party Youtube App can be written in any language, but the actual video playback must be in an HTML5 frame, using the inline video spec which cannot be done on IE for WP. This allows Google to properly track ad views and other metrics. If MS had spent time fixing WP rather than trying to make this a PR issue, WP would have a much better YT app now.
    10-10-2013 05:09 AM
  7. Ray Adams's Avatar
    Believe me it won't. Google will made everything to prevent it from happens. Google=EvilCorp.
    If Google wants ads to be served, why not help MS to integrate it into native app?
    10-10-2013 05:20 AM
  8. ag1986's Avatar
    Believe me it won't. Google will made everything to prevent it from happens. Google=EvilCorp.
    If Google wants ads to be served, why not help MS to integrate it into native app?
    Why should they have to do this just for MS, when it's MS' own fault that an app cannot be built in the way everyone else does?
    Jas00555 likes this.
    10-10-2013 06:23 AM
  9. ag1986's Avatar
    Believe me it won't. Google will made everything to prevent it from happens. Google=EvilCorp.
    If Google wants ads to be served, why not help MS to integrate it into native app?
    Also, look at the situation now.

    If Google wanted to properly kill YT on WP, it is within their power to block Metrotube and other third party apps, and possibly sue the creators into bankruptcy. But yeah, strongarming small developers is not exactly in their history. That leads me to believe that they just want MS to play by the rules.
    10-10-2013 06:38 AM
  10. lantern20's Avatar
    Then Google should create a 1st party app for Youtube, just like it has for other platforms? That way, the apps can all be HTML5, just like iOS & Android are now, right?
    troylytle likes this.
    10-10-2013 06:40 AM
  11. ag1986's Avatar
    Then Google should create a 1st party app for Youtube, just like it has for other platforms? That way, the apps can all be HTML5, just like iOS & Android are now, right?
    iOS and Android are not HTML5, because Google is a first party here and does not have to abide by the restrictions they place on 3rd party apps. Just like how the Office apps on WP are better than the other third party Office apps on Android, because MS has capabilities third parties do not, because they are a first party to Office just like Google are for Youtube.

    And I believe if and when WP has sufficient marketshare, they'll write an app for it. The ad revenue from 10m users, even assuming that all of them have great data connections and use YT every day, will not be enough to offset the cost of developing and maintaining an app. A lot of WPs or rather a lot of Nokias are sold in countries like India where many users do not have access to good 3G or WiFi connections.
    10-10-2013 07:01 AM
  12. squire777's Avatar
    Don't feed him
    mpt15 likes this.
    10-10-2013 07:43 AM
  13. lantern20's Avatar
    Do as I say, not as I do?

    What is the magic marketshare?

    Are there no official Office apps on Android & iOS?

    As to the "cost of developing and maintaining an app" was there any cost to google to allow the high quality MS Youtube app?
    10-10-2013 07:44 AM
  14. Lurchorama's Avatar
    "You need to remake *our* app in HTML5"
    "But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet"
    "Stiff s**t"
    "But none of your other platform apps require HTML5"
    <insert evil laugh here>
    10-10-2013 07:51 AM
  15. mpt15's Avatar
    "You need to remake *our* app in HTML5"
    "But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet"
    "Stiff s**t"
    "But none of your other platform apps require HTML5"
    <insert evil laugh here>
    Exactly. But people still think its not googles fault.... Clearly Google is being unfair. If MS had behaved this way, they would have been sued by now, but Google just sits pretty. I dont like Google at all.
    squire777 likes this.
    10-10-2013 07:57 AM
  16. Shinigami910's Avatar
    Why should they have to do this just for MS, when it's MS' own fault that an app cannot be built in the way everyone else does?
    None of the other youtube apps for any other platform are written in html5. Hence this is a mute point
    10-10-2013 07:59 AM
  17. ag1986's Avatar
    Do as I say, not as I do?

    What is the magic marketshare?

    Are there no official Office apps on Android & iOS?

    As to the "cost of developing and maintaining an app" was there any cost to google to allow the high quality MS Youtube app?
    YT is Google's brand - MS would not like it if Google or anyone else reverse engineered the Office app on WP8 and made an Android or iOS app? The same applies.

    Magic marketshare = Non-hilarious in the USA, which is their #1 revenue market for advertising.

    The official Android app at least is nothing more than a webView to a mobile Office365 site - not a full featured local client like the ones on WP.
    10-10-2013 08:30 AM
  18. lantern20's Avatar
    Didn't google say they were going to work with ms on the app, what happened there?

    At least there is an "official" app.

    ag1986, out of curiosity, which WP are you using?
    unstoppablekem likes this.
    10-10-2013 08:35 AM
  19. ag1986's Avatar
    "You need to remake *our* app in HTML5"
    "But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet"
    "Stiff s**t"
    "But none of your other platform apps require HTML5"
    <insert evil laugh here>
    The way that SHOULD have gone is:
    "You need to remake your app in HTML5"
    "But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet. Alright, we'll fix that screwup and get back to you"
    "Alright"

    See what I did there? If MS really had their users' interest at heart (which some of us find hilarious), they would have fixed that. FFS, they've ben dickering over this for months now - don't tell me a company of MS' size cannot push through a crash project to fix this lack of HTML5 inline. What would have happened IMO is this:

    WP Team:Hey, we need you guys to fix the inline video issue with IE in WP.
    IE Team: LOL, why would we do that for you?
    10-10-2013 08:35 AM
  20. ag1986's Avatar
    Didn't google say they were going to work with ms on the app, what happened there?

    ag1986, out of curiosity, which WP are you using?
    I have an L920 Developer Edition, which is mainly a testbed we got when we were considering making WP one of the supported platforms for our company's employees. But a Nexus 4 is my primary phone. We ended up rejecting WP because of the usual reasons - no VPN, insufficient lockdown capability, and mainly unable to use multiple accounts on the phone and select between them for Skydrive, the Marketplace etc.
    10-10-2013 08:38 AM
  21. lantern20's Avatar
    Thanks
    10-10-2013 08:41 AM
  22. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I say it is both their faults. Microsoft needs to support in line video, and make their browser not the worst on the market, which it is, and Google should've been nice and let Microsoft make their YouTube app.
    10-10-2013 12:20 PM
  23. Lurchorama's Avatar
    The way that SHOULD have gone is:
    "You need to remake your app in HTML5"
    "But our platform doesnt support inline video in HTML5 yet. Alright, we'll fix that screwup and get back to you"
    "Alright"

    See what I did there? If MS really had their users' interest at heart (which some of us find hilarious), they would have fixed that. FFS, they've ben dickering over this for months now - don't tell me a company of MS' size cannot push through a crash project to fix this lack of HTML5 inline. What would have happened IMO is this:

    WP Team:Hey, we need you guys to fix the inline video issue with IE in WP.
    IE Team: LOL, why would we do that for you?
    More correctly:

    "We're gonna make you re-create your app for our service in HTML5 even though we know your platform is not ready for it AND we're not making anyone else do it"
    "Well, thats a bit unfair"
    "Stiff s**t"
    "How long we got?"
    "Yesterday"
    "Well, thats REALLY unfair"
    <insert evil laugh here>
    10-10-2013 09:38 PM
  24. montsa007's Avatar
    Keep Calm
    &
    Switch to Metrotube
    10-11-2013 10:27 AM
  25. ag1986's Avatar
    More correctly:

    "We're gonna make you re-create your app for our service in HTML5 even though we know your platform is not ready for it AND we're not making anyone else do it"
    "Well, thats a bit unfair"
    "Stiff s**t"
    "How long we got?"
    "Yesterday"
    "Well, thats REALLY unfair"
    <insert evil laugh here>
    Again I reiterate: Google does not screw with Metrotube or other 3rd party providers. I am unsure why nobody considers that fact. This means to me that Google does not want to deny WP users, just that they want MS to play by the rules. And the fact that the platform is not ready, after TWO years, is whose fault?
    10-11-2013 11:22 AM
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