10-13-2014 04:34 PM
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  1. raul_junior's Avatar
    So I'm coming from a MacBook pro I've always bought computers and never have made them, but I think its time i should try it out, I heard its cheaper and you can get exactly what you want, since this is my first time, I thought I would ask the community for some pointers on making a computer I plan on having windows 8 on it and upgrading to 10 when it comes out, I'm a music producer I use ableton and vsts with it, I have an external soundcard (focusrite saphire 2i2) and I have 2 krk rokit 5s with it, I'm looking for specs that will work nicely with that sort of software, so if you have any tips or videos that will help me how to learn to build the computer than please do help, also I haven't really decided if I wanted a laptop or a desktop, I'm leaning towards desktop. Thanks
    10-11-2014 11:22 AM
  2. several potatos's Avatar
    You'll definitely want to go desktop over laptop for the sheer reliability and power. I would say you generally want at least a quadcore (beware, there are still dual-cores out there) and, for future-proofing, at LEAST 8gb RAM. Avoid solid state, as they don't last as long and are generally unreliable right now.
    10-11-2014 11:28 AM
  3. Felix Bank's Avatar
    Avoid solid state, as they don't last as long and are generally unreliable right now.
    A pretty bold statement that I find incorrect. SSD's these days are excellent and reliable. Samsung, Intel, and a few other's make awesome SSD's.

    Go for quad core i7 CPU's with Hyper-threading. Running A lot of audio production app's need RAM space, so 8GB is good, although 16GB isn't much more. Use an SSD as your C: drive for programs and then run at least 2 HDD's, one for the audio files and the other for samples. You could start off with lesser equipment, but it really depends on your budget and how much work your going to do on this machine.

    You can build a seriously powerful Audio Production suite for the money, that will give you years of service. I did in 2009.
    10-11-2014 11:49 AM
  4. raul_junior's Avatar
    A pretty bold statement that I find incorrect. SSD's these days are excellent and reliable. Samsung, Intel, and a few other's make awesome SSD's.

    Go for quad core i7 CPU's with Hyper-threading. Running A lot of audio production app's need RAM space, so 8GB is good, although 16GB isn't much more. Use an SSD as your C: drive for programs and then run at least 2 HDD's, one for the audio files and the other for samples. You could start off with lesser equipment, but it really depends on your budget and how much work your going to do on this machine.

    You can build a seriously powerful Audio Production suite for the money, that will give you years of service. I did in 2009.
    Cool ya I'm pretty much sold on desktop, and I'm looking to spend around 1500-2000 on it and do you guys have recommendations on monitors?
    10-11-2014 12:05 PM
  5. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Sometimes you can get a lenova workstation with specs cheaper through their outlet store than you can build one. I got one with a zeon class, w class, quad core chip for $429 6 months ago. Had to add ram, but its one hell of a beast of a desktop.
    10-11-2014 12:06 PM
  6. raul_junior's Avatar
    Sometimes you can get a lenova workstation with specs cheaper through their outlet store than you can build one. I got one with a zeon class, w class, quad core chip for $429 6 months ago. Had to add ram, but its one hell of a beast of a desktop.
    Is this what your talking about?
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F6E...ref=mp_s_a_1_1
    If so I might need a little more juice on the processor and stuff cause ableton does need at least core i7 to run fast
    10-11-2014 12:30 PM
  7. Felix Bank's Avatar
    Best thing to do is focus. You have a budget now. So break it down.

    Motherboard, CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU, Drives, and case.

    Motherboard - Go for ASUS or Gigabyte. Back in 2009 I went with Gigabyte cause they played well with interfaces I used at the time. Today either of the two will do great as the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 is USB2. Soooo your good.

    CPU - i7 Quad Cores with Hyperthreading. Great processing for single and multithreaded applications.

    RAM - Go for at least 8GB, plenty of space for loading those samples, using effects, and plugins.

    GPU - Audio programs are 2D so a basic card will do. Consider multi-monitor setups, great productivity. And if the desktop is in the same room then look at fanless GPU's or decent quiet active cooled cards.

    PSU - Corsair. Simple.

    Drives - An SSD for your OS and Programs. One HHD for your sample files, and one for your audio, and maybe another for other bits of stuff to do with Music Production.

    Case - your choice. Think quiet with good cooling.

    Another thing to think about is CPU cooling. There's plenty good, quiet, coolers out there. And one intake fan, and one exhaust. A very good set up can be had for your budget.

    Then pop your OS on and start programming!
    10-11-2014 12:52 PM
  8. raul_junior's Avatar
    Best thing to do is focus. You have a budget now. So break it down.

    Motherboard, CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU, Drives, and case.

    Motherboard - Go for ASUS or Gigabyte. Back in 2009 I went with Gigabyte cause they played well with interfaces I used at the time. Today either of the two will do great as the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 is USB2. Soooo your good.

    CPU - i7 Quad Cores with Hyperthreading. Great processing for single and multithreaded applications.

    RAM - Go for at least 8GB, plenty of space for loading those samples, using effects, and plugins.

    GPU - Audio programs are 2D so a basic card will do. Consider multi-monitor setups, great productivity. And if the desktop is in the same room then look at fanless GPU's or decent quiet active cooled cards.

    PSU - Corsair. Simple.

    Drives - An SSD for your OS and Programs. One HHD for your sample files, and one for your audio, and maybe another for other bits of stuff to do with Music Production.

    Case - your choice. Think quiet with good cooling.

    Another thing to think about is CPU cooling. There's plenty good, quiet, coolers out there. And one intake fan, and one exhaust. A very good set up can be had for your budget.

    Then pop your OS on and start programming!
    Hmmm thanks that really helped looks like core i7 and 8gbs of ram is best, i saw in other forums that some people Said to get an ssd drive for the oS and a regular hard drive for the rest of your memory, how do you feel about that? And any suggestions on what brand to get for ram?
    10-11-2014 01:04 PM
  9. Jas00555's Avatar
    Hmmm thanks that really helped looks like core i7 and 8gbs of ram is best, i saw in other forums that some people Said to get an ssd drive for the oS and a regular hard drive for the rest of your memory, how do you feel about that? And any suggestions on what brand to get for ram?
    Personally, I've had great experience with Corsair, but I've also heard good things about Klingston.

    Although, I think before you take too many suggestions, it's probably very important to know what your budget is. How much are you willing to spend on this thing.
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    10-11-2014 01:22 PM
  10. Felix Bank's Avatar
    Hmmm thanks that really helped looks like core i7 and 8gbs of ram is best, i saw in other forums that some people Said to get an ssd drive for the oS and a regular hard drive for the rest of your memory, how do you feel about that? And any suggestions on what brand to get for ram?
    Yep, use the SSD for your OS and programs, and use hard drives for all your audio stuff.

    Your safe with any kind of decent RAM, doesn't have to be the high performance stuff you use for overclocking.

    Personally, I've had great experience with Corsair, but I've also heard good things about Kingston.
    This.
    Last edited by Felix Bank; 10-11-2014 at 01:48 PM.
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    10-11-2014 01:24 PM
  11. raul_junior's Avatar
    Ok and do you guys know of any good monitors at around 300 dollars?
    10-11-2014 03:03 PM
  12. raul_junior's Avatar
    And I'm not really familiar with all the chips is this what you guys are talking about?
    https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i7...pUvbUpU2809650
    10-11-2014 03:06 PM
  13. Kyle Stilkey's Avatar
    And I'm not really familiar with all the chips is this what you guys are talking about?
    https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i7...pUvbUpU2809655
    I've heard that's a decent CPU but I'm more of a AMD user so I'll let them say what's good power for your money.

    As for a Monitor around $300, I highly recommend the Asus Monitor. 144Hz and 1m. It has great features for the price compared to a lot of monitors.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=EKdhVXda

    Amazon also has it on sale
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B2H...pUvbUpU2809655

    For Memory I recommend either getting G.Skill, Corsair or Kingston (I lean more towards G.Skill myself as they offer Lifetime warranties on all memory sticks.)

    SSD I would look into getting a Kingston HyperX or even on of the newer Intel/Samsung drives as they are beasts. You can also get a motherboard that supports M.2 and use on of those (Look like RAM but runs as a SSD.)

    Motherboards I would recommend is either ASUS, MSI or Gigabyte as they have great features and build quality. I'm more ASUS as they have overall better reliability and support on their boards.

    Since I'm doing all of this off from my phone and don't have a set computer to build let me know as I get out of work in 4 hours and can help you then. I build PCs for a living and can sit down and give you some different products to look at.

    Also what ever you do, do not cheap out on a PSU (Power Supply) if you get a cheap one, it can ruin your entire system. It can be from not providing the power that its suppose to be or just faulty and fry everything or catch fire (seen that last one before.)
    Last edited by Kyle Stilkey; 10-11-2014 at 03:20 PM.
    10-11-2014 03:09 PM
  14. Jaripi's Avatar
    And I'm not really familiar with all the chips is this what you guys are talking about?
    https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i7...pUvbUpU2809670
    No, it is not the latest Hashwell CPU ...

    Intel Core i7-4770K - Newegg.com

    EDIT: YOU are building a true workhorse :P - do you need that ?
    10-11-2014 03:18 PM
  15. Kyle Stilkey's Avatar
    No, it is not the latest Hashwell CPU ...

    Intel Core i7-4770K - Newegg.com
    Yes, this would be a much better choice, 4770k is a very good CPU.
    10-11-2014 03:21 PM
  16. raul_junior's Avatar
    No, it is not the latest Hashwell CPU ...

    Intel Core i7-4770K - Newegg.com

    EDIT: YOU are building a true workhorse :P - do you need that ?
    Well I'm not sure that's why I'm asking here, like I said in the beginning im a music producer and have been using MacBook pro for the past 3 years, I use ableton live and vsts like sylenth1 and ni massive I have an external soundcard (the Scarlett saphire 2i2. But I want a computer that will run fast with those programs
    10-11-2014 03:52 PM
  17. Felix Bank's Avatar
    The 4770K is a beast! Plenty years of use.
    10-11-2014 04:07 PM
  18. Jaripi's Avatar
    Well I'm not sure that's why I'm asking here, like I said in the beginning im a music producer and have been using MacBook pro for the past 3 years, I use ableton live and vsts like sylenth1 and ni massive I have an external soundcard (the Scarlett saphire 2i2. But I want a computer that will run fast with those programs
    Honestly, I am not familiar with all that - maybe Kyle Stilkey can advice you, it seems that he knows (based on what he is writing up here) ...
    10-11-2014 04:22 PM
  19. raul_junior's Avatar
    I've heard that's a decent CPU but I'm more of a AMD user so I'll let them say what's good power for your money.

    As for a Monitor around $300, I highly recommend the Asus Monitor. 144Hz and 1m. It has great features for the price compared to a lot of monitors.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=Vlo_FzqF

    Amazon also has it on sale
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B2H...pUvbUpU2809740

    For Memory I recommend either getting G.Skill, Corsair or Kingston (I lean more towards G.Skill myself as they offer Lifetime warranties on all memory sticks.)

    SSD I would look into getting a Kingston HyperX or even on of the newer Intel/Samsung drives as they are beasts. You can also get a motherboard that supports M.2 and use on of those (Look like RAM but runs as a SSD.)

    Motherboards I would recommend is either ASUS, MSI or Gigabyte as they have great features and build quality. I'm more ASUS as they have overall better reliability and support on their boards.

    Since I'm doing all of this off from my phone and don't have a set computer to build let me know as I get out of work in 4 hours and can help you then. I build PCs for a living and can sit down and give you some different products to look at.

    Also what ever you do, do not cheap out on a PSU (Power Supply) if you get a cheap one, it can ruin your entire system. It can be from not providing the power that its suppose to be or just faulty and fry everything or catch fire (seen that last one before.)
    Thanks ill look into this
    10-11-2014 04:34 PM
  20. Jas00555's Avatar
    I agree with the 4770k. If you can afford it, it'll be a powerhouse.
    10-11-2014 04:47 PM
  21. Bearach's Avatar
    I agree with the 4770k. If you can afford it, it'll be a powerhouse.
    Sure enough but no point when a few dollars more and they can have Devil's Canyon. i7 4790k.

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K...pUvbUpU2809764
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    10-11-2014 04:57 PM
  22. Bearach's Avatar
    A pretty bold statement that I find incorrect. SSD's these days are excellent and reliable. Samsung, Intel, and a few other's make awesome SSD's.
    Maybe they've had bad luck with SSD's? However I also agree with you. The OP will be very thankful once they use one. Got an Intel Cherryville that is almost 3 years old with over 12TB of writes. Still going strong in one of my systems.
    Last edited by Bearach; 10-11-2014 at 06:12 PM.
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    10-11-2014 05:01 PM
  23. Jaripi's Avatar
    Sure enough but no point when a few dollars more and they can have Devil's Canyon. i7 4790k.

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K...pUvbUpU2810105
    Yeah, i7-4790K is a better choice. It seems that it costs practically the same as i7-4770K ...

    About SSD / HDD or combination of them, there is no simple answer - SSD is faster, but more expensive per Gb. and I feel that that it has slightly higher failing risk (specially for a sudden failing) - anyway, either one can fail ...
    10-12-2014 12:12 AM
  24. Aaki171's Avatar
    Since you are building a machine that's probably going to be handling lots of high quality audio files and working with them I would recommend you to go with 16 Gbs of RAM rather than 8.
    As for the processor, go for the 4790 if its not much more expensive as compared to the 4770. Its slightly better but every bit counts.
    As for the storage, I agree with the rest that you should use an SSD for your OS and programs while using an HDD for your files.
    An SSD really speeds up the loading of all your programs.
    10-12-2014 12:25 AM
  25. raul_junior's Avatar
    Since you are building a machine that's probably going to be handling lots of high quality audio files and working with them I would recommend you to go with 16 Gbs of RAM rather than 8.
    As for the processor, go for the 4790 if its not much more expensive as compared to the 4770. Its slightly better but every bit counts.
    As for the storage, I agree with the rest that you should use an SSD for your OS and programs while using an HDD for your files.
    An SSD really speeds up the loading of all your programs.
    Alright and how big should my ssd hard drive be? I'm gonna be loading on there ableton (around 4gbs, a bunch of vsts=about 20gbs more and the os) should I get like 150gbs?
    10-12-2014 10:25 AM
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