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  1. James Auman's Avatar
    I try to stay in the Microsoft world as much as possible, but Win10Mobile has become unreliable (Spotify hardly ever works, Bluetooth is touch and go). I'm not sure i'm going to switch just yet, BUT if i did, which one keeps me as close to Microsoft as possible? Or does it really make any difference?
    Mike G likes this.
    02-25-2018 05:37 PM
  2. Guytronic's Avatar
    Simply an opinion here.
    I think those that move to Android and cling to MS services may not find the switch that simple.
    I tried to stay with MS as much as possible when I started using Android initially.
    Eventually I found apps on Android outside the MS services that I like much better.
    I still use OneNote on occasion because it's so well done on Android.
    02-25-2018 05:46 PM
  3. Adventurer64's Avatar
    Android, especially if you want to use a tile based launcher to mimic W10M.
    Hoppman likes this.
    02-25-2018 08:54 PM
  4. Elky64's Avatar
    If I had to pick I'd definitely say Android - In saying that, look at each platform for what it is and not as something that can be turned into a Windows Phone clone as it will never be.
    Last edited by Elky64; 02-27-2018 at 07:01 PM.
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    02-26-2018 09:19 PM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    You can do it with both but in my experience, it's slightly easier on iOS.
    Guytronic, TgeekB and aximtreo like this.
    02-27-2018 01:56 PM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    You can do it with both but in my experience, it's slightly easier on iOS.
    libra89 likes this.
    02-27-2018 04:32 PM
  7. aximtreo's Avatar
    I suggest IOS as well. I like it for one simple thing compared to WP. They both just work. No runs, no drips, no errors.
    Timbre70 and libra89 like this.
    02-28-2018 06:41 AM
  8. Adventurer64's Avatar
    My LG V20 has been quit stable despite the fact I'm running a tile based launcher. Prior to W10M, I used Samsungs for years, including an S3, S4 and Note 4. All were buggy, bloated and barely usable after 3 to 6 mths requiring hard resets to get things working again. Reason why I tried W10M in 2017. Totally different experience with LG. In fact, my LG is more stable than the Idol 4S I used for 8 months.
    02-28-2018 10:36 PM
  9. sweatshopking's Avatar
    They're both terrible. Android is a mess still, with a terrible UI and while you can set Cortana as your default why would you? she can't do anything. if you like Microsoft you should stick with windows phone. I just ditched a brand new galaxy because the MS experience was still so terrible, and it'll remain that way unless MS puts out their own android os.
    If you like google, go with android. If you like apple go with iOS, but neither one of them is MS.
    jeffchapik, SunToucher and fin11 like this.
    03-06-2018 09:52 AM
  10. toph36's Avatar
    I have a Pixel 2 XL. I have installed the Microsoft Launcher, Outlooks, Edge, OneDrive and all the Office apps... I setup Cortana as my default Assistant, which I can activate by holding down the home button. It works well. The only time I really use Google services is to download apps from the Play Store. I do use the Contacts and Photos apps as well, but would use the Microsoft Photos app is they release it for Android. I have no issues with the UI. Works fine. I went with a Google phone primarily because 1. I got a great deal on the phone, and 2. the monthly security updates. Good luck,
    sumanthsuresh likes this.
    03-06-2018 10:08 AM
  11. Luuthian's Avatar
    I try to stay in the Microsoft world as much as possible, but Win10Mobile has become unreliable (Spotify hardly ever works, Bluetooth is touch and go). I'm not sure i'm going to switch just yet, BUT if i did, which one keeps me as close to Microsoft as possible? Or does it really make any difference?
    You’re going to make sacrifices no matter which one you choose. Android will allow you to more deeply integrate certain features of Microsoft’s apps but then you have to deal with the Play Store and all the pitfalls an Android device has.

    Some people love the freedom an Android provides but others may hate the fragmented OS updates, lack of ability to remove certain apps without Root, the quality of the apps, etc.

    iOS won’t let you do certain things like set Outlook or Cortana as default apps, but at the very least you can delete Apple’s core apps and use those in their place (Android sometimes won’t let you remove default apps without Root, which is a whole other thing).

    iOS is restrictive in other ways too like app icon position on the home screen but it also tends to have very slick and efficient versions of MS’ apps and other apps in general. You’ll also get more security control over your apps than Android allows for.

    Basically you have to decide if a clean and efficient, but somewhat restrictive, OS is better, or if you’d prefer freedom and customization but at the possible loss of quality and app security.
    Mike G likes this.
    03-06-2018 10:25 AM
  12. bleached's Avatar
    if you go for iOS, you may as well get a Mac too since they integrate so well. Apple services are also much better integrated so you should use them too if you want the full benefit of their ecosystem.
    03-06-2018 10:51 AM
  13. xandros9's Avatar
    if you go for iOS, you may as well get a Mac too since they integrate so well. Apple services are also much better integrated so you should use them too if you want the full benefit of their ecosystem.
    I agree with this in that the iPhone was the gateway “drug” to me getting a Mac but if you use Microsoft services to run the backbone of syncing stuff and whatnot, it’ll work fine. I phased out Outlook.com in favor of a different email and PIM provider (FastMail) but that’s just what worked for me.
    libra89 and aximtreo like this.
    03-06-2018 10:58 AM
  14. VHMP01's Avatar
    I try to stay in the Microsoft world as much as possible, but Win10Mobile has become unreliable (Spotify hardly ever works, Bluetooth is touch and go). I'm not sure i'm going to switch just yet, BUT if i did, which one keeps me as close to Microsoft as possible? Or does it really make any difference?
    Other option may be to wait for Andrómeda if you can!
    fin11 and sporosarcina like this.
    03-06-2018 11:08 AM
  15. Daniel Stevenson Sutton's Avatar
    I think the answer has to be Android for sure. I am currently using an S8 and it is so Microsoft integrated I have replaced both Bixby and Google now connections with Cortana. The Microsoft Launcher lets me quickly push files between devices, edge browser allows me to move web pages with ease (although IOS has that too). But the real differentiator is notifications. Call and text notices flow seamlessly between the two meaning your phone becomes a companion not an interruption to work.
    aximtreo and Mike G like this.
    03-06-2018 11:19 AM
  16. BanditoTR's Avatar
    Choose iOS if you hate giving your data for free to Google. They are a multimillion dollar company and they still has the audacity to get my GPS coordinates without my permission. Wonder what else they are getting without my permission.
    Hoppman and anon(8631125) like this.
    03-06-2018 11:58 AM
  17. Hoppman's Avatar
    Neither one is a great choice, walled garden with rows of icons, or the ability to run a tile launcher but you have one of the most insecure OS's with 2 years of security updates or maybe 3, then there is the google advertising behemoth that wants to suck up all your data as that is their business model. Scroogle really is one unethical company and they did rather half *** lagdroid from the start.
    fin11 likes this.
    03-06-2018 12:20 PM
  18. Vincent McLaughlin's Avatar
    I have a friend of mine that tried to convince me that I would abandon MS services for Google. I use as little Google service as I can on my Note 8. Having been a Windows user for years, everything I've used and stored uses MS services. I'm not hating on Google, I just don't see a need to switch from MS to Google, simply because I am now using an Android phone. Outlook ties in all my emails, to include Google and Yahoo. I use Office regularly, OneDrive has been my cloud storage source for years and Groove plays all the music I have stored on OneDrive. No to mention, documents and pictures. The only thing I'm missing right now is Movies and TV app from MS. I've learned to live without the Live tiles, but I do miss them. I have Launcher 10, but I use MS Launcher now. Launcher 10 is great for anyone still wanting to have the look and feel of Live Tiles. It even has some features I would have loved to see on Windows 10 Mobile.

    My point with all this is, iOS or Android will depend on a few factors.

    1. What services do you need?

    2. Are you invested in a particular ecosystem?

    3. If so, how easy is it to switch over to another ecosystem and use proprietary services or services already used?

    4. Do you want flexible customization or limited?

    5. Do you want hardware variety or does it matter?

    There are other factors, but primarily focused on ecosystem and services to decide that would ultimately determine which to choose.
    aximtreo and Mike G like this.
    03-06-2018 12:31 PM
  19. dlls's Avatar
    OS features and good enough MS services or not, my problem is that I simply can not find an Android flagship to match my aging Lumia 950XL.
    I let the removable battery requirement go eventually, but I still absolutely want: OLED screen, at least 5.8'', headphone jack, microsd slot, always-on display, Android 8 and regular OS and security updates.
    The only contender would be the Galaxy S9+ but I hate the rounded screen corners and the 18:9 aspect ratio (what exactly was it wrong with 16:9? I don't get it). Also, paying 1000 euros for a phone is simply NOT acceptable. Not that I can't afford it, but I just don't think that everything that makes up the phone justifies that amount of money. Adding just another 300 gets you a 55'' OLED TV. How does this make any sense?
    I don't want to pay for the R&D into AI, stupid emojis, computational fake bokeh or other stuff that I don't need.
    I paid 550 Euros for a Lumia 950XL that gave me everything I needed. Why is it that 2.5 years later must I pay double for an Android flagship that makes more compromises?

    I'm really starting to feel like going back to a feature phone and buying a tablet would be the best choice.
    aximtreo and fin11 like this.
    03-06-2018 12:41 PM
  20. camaroz1985's Avatar
    My choice is iOS, but if I stayed Android (I did try it), it would be with a Google Pixel device. I prefer first party hardware, you get updates fastest, and it seems to run the best. That is why I used Microsoft/Lumia devices with Windows Phone.

    I think the experience on iOS is just smoother, and the quality of the apps (even though I don't use that many) seems to be better on iOS than on Android. I still use a lot of Microsoft apps, and they work well on iOS, better in most cases than they did on W10M. Sure you can't set them as defaults like you can in Android, but they work great for me.

    It would take a lot to make me switch from iOS, but I will always be tempted by Windows, so I am excited to see what comes out of Redmond in the coming months/years.
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    03-06-2018 01:04 PM
  21. real0395's Avatar
    I prefer Android, but I recommend something more the Pixel or even Nokia where you'll be guaranteed timely updates. For one, I don't like iOS UI just generally speaking. But a deal breaker for me is not being able to set default apps in iOS which to me almost makes it pointless to use other services. The other nice thing about Android is the Microsoft launcher, which isn't live tiles but it still works nicely. If you want something like live tiles you can get custom launchers that mimic is, but personally I haven't found anything that is good enough. Generally speaking, I've had good experiences with all the Microsoft apps on Android. There are definitely things they can improve on but nothing that's a deal breaker right now.
    Byrese likes this.
    03-06-2018 02:59 PM
  22. grahamf's Avatar
    Microsoft Andromeda > Google Fuschia > Windows 10 Mobile > Android (Blackberry modified) > Android (Google Pixle)

    That's my internal ranking. If you HAVE to go Android then get the Blackberry version - the DTEK50 and DTEK60 are great phones and are still getting security updates.

    Spotify is pretty ****ty though. I hope they come out with a REAL UWP app soon.
    03-06-2018 07:51 PM
  23. naddy6969's Avatar
    "If you like google, go with android. If you like apple go with iOS, but neither one of them is MS."

    Yes, fortunately neither is MS. They both support their mobile OSes/products/services. Unlike MS.

    Which explains why no one likes MS for mobile products/services.
    Last edited by naddy6969; 03-06-2018 at 08:08 PM.
    03-06-2018 07:57 PM
  24. Jeffery L's Avatar
    So I still have a Lumia 950. I have a question to the group. On Android, can you use the contacts from MS People in a way that it is truly integrated with the whole phone experience. In other words, if the phone rings from someone in People, is that person's name (and maybe picture) displayed? Does the person's name show up in the phone log or texting conversations? When you make an update to an MS People contact on a Windows 10 device using your MS account, does the Android device get the update? When you start typing an email address for an email, do suggestions from your People contacts get suggested? Can you say to the assistant "Call [someone in your People]" and the dialing command is executed? Tight integration with contacts to me is most important. I have other questions about tight integration with calendar events used by Outlook.com associated with your MS account, especially with sync capabilities, but I will keep it short.
    DCJason likes this.
    03-06-2018 09:08 PM
  25. Wheels_____'s Avatar
    I’ve tried them both. I was on Android with the excellent Nexus 6 phone for personal use and an HP Elite x3 for work until the iPhone X came out. Terrific phones but I decided to give the iPhone a look. The first two weeks I hated it. I missed the Action Launcher I used on the Nexus phone. I don’t understand Apples grip on the UI on their phones. I tried the Microsoft Launcher but it’s still missing features I love with Action.
    I installed every Microsoft app I could find and put everything else on two folders. The iPhone defaults to the Sierra browser but it’s not that big of a deal. It’s more annoying than anything. One Drive, One Note, have been solid. Outlook is much better for me than iPhone mail and I have MSN Sports and News but they’ve never been daily drivers. As far as other apps. Everyone has their favorites. I’m a news junkie so I have 5 I look at daily. Tweetbot for Twitter, music the same applies there, to each his own. I’ve got a large music library at home, 5645 songs, and was using Spotify but I thought I’d give Amazon music a try since I’m a prime user and Apple is going to kill iTunes in the near future. I don’t want to worry about my library so I have it backed up just in case it vanishes when Apple shifts to streaming full-time.

    I’d go with the iPhone. It’s really a coin flip IMHO. It’s shocking how well Microsoft’s apps work in iOS especially after using a Windows phone. The iPhone X Price is rediculous yes but is a fine handset in every way. I know people hate the “notch” and the screen aspect makes it appear smaller but it’s not. For Android users switching over it is really a phone for them. Most iPhone users I know miss having the home button. It was one of the things that I never liked. I would have loved having both facial and fingerprint sensors but we don’t. I think the facial recognition works great but again it’s new to me and I never have worry where I have my fingers I just look at my handset and it unlocks. The battery life in my iPhone has been very very good. I easily go a full day it quick charges well. If Microsoft fixes their ToDo app to Calendar sync I’d use it instead of ToDoIst. Especially after using windows phones there’s no struggle for app software. It’s many choices are as they are with Android but I’d say so far the switch to the iPhone has more stable. I would suggest if you know nothing about how the iPhone functions buy a book or search the web. I bought a tech book/magazine that was big help in figuring at what I could shut off from Apple and how I could connect my iPhone functions to Microsoft apps.
    I have to say shame on Microsoft. I love my Surface Pro 4 and the HP Elite x3 was a great Windows Phone that had great potential. More mobile OS choice is always better and I’d hope they come back in the future with something successful.
    Mike G likes this.
    03-06-2018 09:46 PM
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