11-15-2014 01:15 PM
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  1. undulose's Avatar
    Windows Central posted a rumour that Cortana may be heading to other mobile OSes. I looked eventually at the comments section just to see a barrage of rants.

    First of all, Satya Nadella has stated in public that Microsoft will be focusing first on its mobile and cloud SERVICES. That's why a lot of apps like Office 365 come to Android and iOS.

    Second, these apps are not as feature-rich as their WP counterpart. There are a lot of restrictions for the free Office 365 in Android and iOS. Android and iOS users should expect the same treatment for Cortana.

    Third, remember that not all Windows desktop users have WP as their mobile OS preference. In fact, WP is even a minority compared to the other two. So Microsoft's expansion will only be natural.

    I, for one, use Firefox and IE as a desktop browser and Bing as my default search engine. Having a secondary Android phone (my daily driver is still a Lumia), I ditched Google's services (except for Google+, YouTube and Gmail) and downloaded Firefox, Bing (which is integrated with IE) and Outlook. And my contacts are stored by default on Outlook.

    See, even though I have an Android phone, the impact of Microsoft's services in my life is still big. In our country where Chromebooks are highly disregarded, Microsoft's strategy may eventually be effective but in a slow manner.
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    11-10-2014 08:13 PM
  2. several potatos's Avatar
    Just don't read the comments
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    11-10-2014 08:35 PM
  3. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    For me Cortana isnt just an app that can be created and given to everyone. It may sound impossible but its one of the biggest reasons they envy my Lumia 920 (apart from stability and camera). She has characte, depth and personality. I think its one of the strongest cards that can bring buyers.

    I don't have a problem for Microsoft to give office, cloud and these services as they are widely used by people. And truthfully i think it great.

    As long as I can remember I didn't bi.tch about some acts of MS, but I will be dissatisfied if they do this. Why the reason to buy a phone that offer fewer, and all its uniqueness is given to the others? Apart from they modern style which I adore there won't be a real, solid reason. Eventually I will stick to my L920 until it dies (hopefully It wont).

    BUT this decision will profit economically MS's revenue, in expense of their WP.
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    11-10-2014 09:03 PM
  4. anon9169769's Avatar
    Windows Central posted a rumour that Cortana may be heading to other mobile OSes. .



    Second, these apps are not as feature-rich as their WP counterpart. There are a lot of restrictions for the free Office 365 in Android and iOS. Android and iOS users should expect the same treatment for Cortana.
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    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937) using Tapatalk
    You really really beleive that with your second point? You do realise that we have a worse office app then iphone right as they have more features. Microsoft spends more on other platforms then its own.
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    11-10-2014 09:25 PM
  5. undulose's Avatar
    You really really beleive that with your second point? You do realise that we have a worse office app then iphone right as they have more features. Microsoft spends more on other platforms then its own.

    Yes, isn't it? There are a lot of restrictions for the iOS and Android Office app unless you buy it.
    11-10-2014 11:30 PM
  6. undulose's Avatar
    For me Cortana isnt just an app that can be created and given to everyone. It may sound impossible but its one of the biggest reasons they envy my Lumia 920 (apart from stability and camera). She has characte, depth and personality. I think its one of the strongest cards that can bring buyers.

    I don't have a problem for Microsoft to give office, cloud and these services as they are widely used by people. And truthfully i think it great.

    As long as I can remember I didn't bi.tch about some acts of MS, but I will be dissatisfied if they do this. Why the reason to buy a phone that offer fewer, and all its uniqueness is given to the others? Apart from they modern style which I adore there won't be a real, solid reason. Eventually I will stick to my L920 until it dies (hopefully It wont).

    BUT this decision will profit economically MS's revenue, in expense of their WP.

    If you want, you can switch to an Android or iPhone if that brings you satisfaction. You can still support MS on other mobile platforms.
    steve_w_7 likes this.
    11-10-2014 11:33 PM
  7. theefman's Avatar
    Yes, isn't it? There are a lot of restrictions for the iOS and Android Office app unless you buy it.

    There are no restrictions, the apps are completely free, with updated functionality and you can edit documents without an office 365 subscription.

    If you want, you can switch to an Android or iPhone if that brings you satisfaction. You can still support MS on other mobile platforms.
    Maybe you don't get it. This is not about blindly supporting Microsoft services wherever they are, its about getting a satisfactory experience with the platform we like, which is WP, which happens to be from Microsoft, and which happens to have the worst versions of Microsoft services.
    11-11-2014 12:12 AM
  8. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    If you want, you can switch to an Android or iPhone if that brings you satisfaction. You can still support MS on other mobile platforms.
    For God's shake no!! I hate them both. If Cortana becomes available to everyone I will stick to my Lumia 920 or buy a prehistoric phone.
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    11-11-2014 12:19 AM
  9. undulose's Avatar
    There are no restrictions, the apps are completely free, with updated functionality and you can edit documents without an office 365 subscription.



    Maybe you don't get it. This is not about blindly supporting Microsoft services wherever they are, its about getting a satisfactory experience with the platform we like, which is WP, which happens to be from Microsoft, and which happens to have the worst versions of Microsoft services.

    Why, I have no complaints with how MSoft is doing with WP, especially with the Lumia Denim and Windows 10 update. I can use the Office 365 app efficiently on my phone (i.e. I use Excel to keep tabs of my bank withdrawals).

    Look at how Android and iOS users embraced the Office 365 announcement joyously. MSoft is doing what Google should have been doing (the "Don't Do Evil" motto).
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    11-11-2014 02:11 AM
  10. Squachy's Avatar
    Why, I have no complaints with how MSoft is doing with WP, especially with the Lumia Denim and Windows 10 update. I can use the Office 365 app efficiently on my phone (i.e. I use Excel to keep tabs of my bank withdrawals).

    Look at how Android and iOS users embraced the Office 365 announcement joyously. MSoft is doing what Google should have been doing (the "Don't Do Evil" motto).
    There's more features available (without the subscription) in the ios version of office than the windows phone version. the WP office hasn't changed at all since WP7 4 years ago....it was pretty crap then and its still pretty crap now. I was actually kind of excited to use it back when I got my windows phone 7 but realized you couldn't really do much of anything in it and nothing looked right. I loaded up my resume and it looked nothing like it did on my desktop office.

    Microsoft's own Office apps much better on iPhone than Windows Phone 8
    And apparently we have to wait until windows 10 NEXT YEAR, 6 MONTHS FROM NOW to get a proper touch based office that isn't half baked like the one in windows phone.
    Office, onedrive, Skype. Those are fine as multiplatform apps, they've always been multiplatform.
    The issue we have is that we get the crappiest versions of them (I believe the onedrive app is probably the most consistent among the 3 OS's).
    And I don't understand them wanting to put Cortana everywhere.....Apple isn't giving away Siri to google or windows, Google voice isn't going anywhere....and they're going to get Cortana? really?
    They might as well just pull a Sega, write off all their hardware and just go forward with just software.
    neo158, theefman, Ozzy1320 and 1 others like this.
    11-11-2014 03:48 AM
  11. Kunal Dudwadkar's Avatar
    Cortana is like the pride of my phone, of course there are other features too. But Cortana is the one thing i flaunt amongst my droid friends and they are like wow i want it too and now they simply get it? Whats the point. At least there should be something exclusive to the Lumia lineup.
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    11-11-2014 08:22 AM
  12. neo158's Avatar
    Windows Central posted a rumour that Cortana may be heading to other mobile OSes. I looked eventually at the comments section just to see a barrage of rants.

    First of all, Satya Nadella has stated in public that Microsoft will be focusing first on its mobile and cloud SERVICES. That's why a lot of apps like Office 365 come to Android and iOS.

    Second, these apps are not as feature-rich as their WP counterpart. There are a lot of restrictions for the free Office 365 in Android and iOS. Android and iOS users should expect the same treatment for Cortana.

    Third, remember that not all Windows desktop users have WP as their mobile OS preference. In fact, WP is even a minority compared to the other two. So Microsoft's expansion will only be natural.

    I, for one, use Firefox and IE as a desktop browser and Bing as my default search engine. Having a secondary Android phone (my daily driver is still a Lumia), I ditched Google's services (except for Google+, YouTube and Gmail) and downloaded Firefox, Bing (which is integrated with IE) and Outlook. And my contacts are stored by default on Outlook.

    See, even though I have an Android phone, the impact of Microsoft's services in my life is still big. In our country where Chromebooks are highly disregarded, Microsoft's strategy may eventually be effective but in a slow manner.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937) using Tapatalk
    So let me get this straight, you're ranting about people ranting about something perfectly valid?
    theefman, steve_w_7 and techiez like this.
    11-11-2014 08:35 AM
  13. spaulagain's Avatar
    Uh oh, here come a flock of wah wahs...

    ;)
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    11-11-2014 08:46 AM
  14. theefman's Avatar
    So let me get this straight, you're ranting about people ranting about something perfectly valid?

    Its "Winception"! 😊
    11-11-2014 08:49 AM
  15. pedmar007's Avatar
    We honestly can't change or slow whatever direction/steps/choices MS makes with regard to WP. Honestly the ONLY thing is when they sell out to IOS and Android with their "can't beat them join them philosophy" we the loyal WP users will then obviously move on elsewhere giving MS exactly what they want yet not wanted. They only thing for MS to understand how we feel about their actions is to make a statement whether it be in person or via the WWW!!
    neo158 likes this.
    11-11-2014 08:56 AM
  16. neo158's Avatar
    Uh oh, here come a flock of wah wahs...

    ;)
    Congratulations, you just got yourself onto my ignore list!!!!
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    11-11-2014 09:00 AM
  17. HelloLudger's Avatar
    the WP office hasn't changed at all since WP7 4 years ago....
    Jup. Nailed it. Put the calendar and the email app to that list. (ok, at least the calendar changed... Not everything was an improvement, but at least they did SOMETHING)

    And apparently we have to wait until windows 10 NEXT YEAR, 6 MONTHS FROM NOW to get a proper touch based office that isn't half baked like the one in windows phone.
    6 months? I would say that is optimistic. I read 10/10/15 as possible launch date. Build is over 5 months away and I would not hold hold my breath for getting a PREVIEW earlier than this.
    Oh, and at the moment we can't be sure that we can update our phones to 10.
    neo158 likes this.
    11-11-2014 11:21 AM
  18. hidayat225's Avatar
    We honestly can't change or slow whatever direction/steps/choices MS makes with regard to WP. Honestly the ONLY thing is when they sell out to IOS and Android with their "can't beat them join them philosophy" we the loyal WP users will then obviously move on elsewhere giving MS exactly what they want yet not wanted. They only thing for MS to understand how we feel about their actions is to make a statement whether it be in person or via the WWW!!
    I honestly think we do have a chance. They did a bad move with Xbox One's announcement and got what they deserved. Bad press = bad sales. If they pulled of this again with Cortana, I hope the press would be all over criticising how Microsoft is ditching WP.
    neo158 likes this.
    11-11-2014 11:38 AM
  19. HelloLudger's Avatar
    I would guess, a lot of people in the techmedia would support Microsoft if they ditch WP in favor of a software only mobile strategy.
    neo158 likes this.
    11-11-2014 11:41 AM
  20. hidayat225's Avatar
    I would guess, a lot of people in the techmedia would support Microsoft if they ditch WP in favor of a software only mobile strategy.
    That's a high possibility... Which is saddening. Either way, no reason anymore to support WP if that really happens.
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    11-11-2014 11:44 AM
  21. EBUK's Avatar
    I've only just moved to WP from Android. The lack of OFFICIAL apps isn't too great a concern for me at the moment as I'm not a youth any longer so social networking is not a fad that engages me. Secret, Vine, Facebook, Instagram etc are not a major concern; if there are alternatives that work JUST AS WELL as the official app, then I'm happy.

    It does bother me that MS would want to give Cortana away to iOS and Android when they already have their own assistants, but should I care? Cortana isn't great in the UK. It seems really only to function properly in the US/Canada. Cortana on our rivals' handsets is probably a long way off.

    If MS could release user-installable versions to run of specific hardware configurations (specific processors) that would be great. Bun unlikely to happen.

    I don't think the rants are unreasonable; people are frustrated that MS isn't doing more to promote WP.

    How about promotions - a free (entry level) WinPhone when you buy a Win 8.1 PC / Laptop / Surface Pro? Anything to give more people the opportunity to sample what WP can do.
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    11-11-2014 01:34 PM
  22. prasath1234's Avatar
    Agree op Cortana would be great for our fellow android ND ios users.we have got more people to test her that makes her a great personal assistant.i will stick to wp for live tiles nd neat interface.
    From Windows phone
    11-11-2014 01:56 PM
  23. spaulagain's Avatar
    Congratulations, you just got yourself onto my ignore list!!!!
    Congratulations, I don't care! I've been reading all your posts, and nothing of value anyways. You are definitely one of the wah wahs.

    When people continue to complain and ignore all reasonable answers that we've provided, they become wah wahs. ;)
    11-11-2014 03:47 PM
  24. spaulagain's Avatar
    I would guess, a lot of people in the techmedia would support Microsoft if they ditch WP in favor of a software only mobile strategy.
    They are "ditching" WP. It's called Windows 10. All this doom and gloom about WP is just silly. Windows 10 makes it completely irrelevant for the most part.
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    11-11-2014 04:00 PM
  25. hidayat225's Avatar
    Ditching is certainly not the right word though, 'compromising' is a better word for this. It's like they are not proud enough for Windows Phone like how Apple treat the iPhone. Cortana everywhere is cool though but in reality, they are just giving the competition ammunition.
    11-12-2014 10:53 AM
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