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  1. cw1988's Avatar
    Wrong, AMD is unlikely to keep the same socket next time around. Their AM3+ socket's really old as it is. You're likely to see Excavator come with AM4 or something, and possibly with DDR4 support, so the board won't be reusable, and AMD boards aren't much cheaper than Intel (if at all).
    Correct, i just realised the succession if sockets vs release dates, ie am3, am3+ etc.

    Which is good though, i fforgot how long that socket had been kicking around for.
    05-06-2014 01:47 AM
  2. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    The new talk is that AMD is going to kill their current core setup, ditching the modules used since Bulldozer. They're also looking at a shared socket for their x86 and ARM stuff, though I think that's only on the mobile side. Neither sounds like it'll happen for about 2 years, so I'd regardless be wary about taking anything from AMD over that time.
    05-06-2014 10:35 AM
  3. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Next project will be a new PC for my grandma. Nothing special or fancy, just a build for internet browsing and low-graphics "gaming" (Mahjong, simple adventures).
    Most likely to get these parts:

    ~57€ AMD A6-5400K
    ~50€ MSI FM2-A75MA-P33
    ~45€ Corsair CX430
    ~57€ WD Blue 1TB
    ~30-40€ generic case
    ~40-40€ DDR3 1600MHz 2x2GB
    ~289-299€

    Would've liked a mini-ITX MoBo and case but the prices for them (in combination with enough SATA, USB2.0/3.0 and a DVI port) are too high.
    06-06-2014 09:00 AM
  4. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Why do you need DVI, monitor re-use? HDMI wasn't on the table?
    06-06-2014 09:09 AM
  5. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Why do you need DVI, monitor re-use? HDMI wasn't on the table?
    Yes, unfortunately both our monitors don't have a HDMI port -_-
    Hopefully going to replace my monitor with one that has an HDMI port and 1080p res this year.

    I'm just glad I managed to get the price as low as under 300€ (only because I'm going to clone the HDD that is in her current PC (and hopefully it's not one of those "bound to motherboard" OS versions -_-).
    06-06-2014 11:23 AM
  6. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Yep, it's one of those OEM versions, so the OS is bound to the motherboard.

    And to make it worse: the current PC died this morning. Won't boot, no matter what; even tried different HDDs and boot from disc...nothing works and it doesn't even work with my old PC -_-

    Shopping for the parts after the weekend -_-

    Damn, I'm pissed....
    06-07-2014 05:40 AM
  7. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    What do you mean, it "died?"

    My dad's PSU kicked it last night, 1000-watt Raidmax power supply. How's it react to trying to turn on? PSUs are usually the first thing to check after a HDD failure, so I'd try hooking up your PSU (or any spare you have there) and trying it.
    06-07-2014 09:09 AM
  8. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Starting with a very short "beep", then Intel logo, then nothing (not even able to enter BIOS.
    Tried it with my old one which suddenly behaves the same. Installed various HDDs (clean and with OS), put in the recovery disc and installation disc....no success.
    And the PC I've had before that has a broken IDE drive in it -_-
    06-07-2014 09:22 AM
  9. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Hmmh, might be the CPU or board. Regardless, are you sure the OS is board-bound? The version I got required a reinstall after putting my new one in, but it didn't outright refuse the reinstall or anything. I didn't know OEMs did that to their discs.
    06-07-2014 09:42 AM
  10. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Hmmh, might be the CPU or board. Regardless, are you sure the OS is board-bound? The version I got required a reinstall after putting my new one in, but it didn't outright refuse the reinstall or anything. I didn't know OEMs did that to their discs.
    Yes, I still have the package (which came with the PC) and it says "OEM" on it, which is known to be bound to board. Also, it's Vista 32bit which doesn't get any updates anymore.

    Even if it was "just" the board or CPU....it's socket 775 like my old one (we have/had 2 identical PCs). Getting a replacement CPU/board is sheer impossible and not worth the money (only a matter of time until the rest of the components die). I CAN get a "new" mobo but they are just as expensive as current gen models. CPUs aren't available anymore -> http://geizhals.at/?cat=cpup7
    06-07-2014 09:49 AM
  11. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Yeah, there's no reason to bother with replacing such old hardware, was just making a general statement. At least you were already planning the replacement, so it lived exactly as long as it needed to, haha.
    06-07-2014 10:26 AM
  12. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Yeah, there's no reason to bother with replacing such old hardware, was just making a general statement. At least you were already planning the replacement, so it lived exactly as long as it needed to, haha.
    Not quite^^ It would have been much more relaxed if it died the minute I turn on the new one^^
    Now I have to look for free games for Linux/Ubuntu so my grandma can play some games until we get a free and legal copy of Windows 7 from a friend of mine.
    06-08-2014 04:59 AM
  13. Akash Patel's Avatar
    Not quite^^ It would have been much more relaxed if it died the minute I turn on the new one^^
    Now I have to look for free games for Linux/Ubuntu so my grandma can play some games until we get a free and legal copy of Windows 7 from a friend of mine.
    If you want you can install windows 8.1 embedded industry pro its free to download and install from microsoft dreamspark if you are register member over there.:)
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    06-08-2014 05:32 AM
  14. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    If you want you can install windows 8.1 embedded industry pro its free to download and install from microsoft dreamspark if you are register member over there.:)
    Huge thanks!
    I actually didn't know about this. Need to read up about the conditions first (like what happens with the OS when I'm no longer a student/after I get my bachelors degree).
    06-08-2014 07:00 AM
  15. Akash Patel's Avatar
    Huge thanks!
    I actually didn't know about this. Need to read up about the conditions first (like what happens with the OS when I'm no longer a student/after I get my bachelors degree).
    It will be still valid the only thing will happen is you wont get free developer account promo code and tools in short your account wont be consider as a student so you wont receive free stuff from them :)
    06-08-2014 07:16 AM
  16. kg4icg's Avatar
    Have a $2,000 build budget coming up in a couple of weeks, doing a new Intel build, will have to wait until 1st week of July for the Haswell cpu.

    Intel Pentium Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz LGA 1150 Boxed Processor - PREORDER PRESALE-301275 - Micro Center

    Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard 608745 - Micro Center

    Dell P2815Q 28" LED Ultra HD Monitor FPK7C - Micro Center

    ​cpu and monitor are definite purchase. Just haven't made up mind on motherboard, psu. Ram, ssd's case and video cards are already decided. I guess you can say I'm lucky to live near a Microcenter here in the states with Newegg being a back up for me.
    06-08-2014 07:30 AM
  17. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    It will be still valid the only thing will happen is you wont get free developer account promo code and tools in short your account wont be consider as a student so you wont receive free stuff from them :)
    Damnit! If I knew about this when I built my PC earlier this year I could've saved another 80€ -_-

    And I was wondering why the software shop of the Technical University in my town doesn't offer OSs for students anymore.
    06-08-2014 07:39 AM
  18. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Just haven't made up mind on motherboard, psu.
    I would recommend a Seasonic or a model from a brand that uses/rebrands Seasonic PSUs (Antec, Corsair use some Seasonic PSUs and all XFX are basically Seasonic), . They are a highly regarded manufacturer of PSUs. If you want to check if the model you choose is manufactured by Seasonic you can take a look at this list PSU Makers: 0-9 And A-B - Who's Who In Power Supplies, 2013: Brands Vs. Manufacturers

    From what I've heard/read the manufacturer of RAM doesn't really matter (Corsair, Kingston, Team Group, G.Skill, Crucial, Patriot, etc. are all fine). Most people seem to pick by MHz, CL, price and looks. (don't forget to check if they are single, dual or even quad rank).
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    06-08-2014 07:50 AM
  19. Akash Patel's Avatar
    Have a $2,000 build budget coming up in a couple of weeks, doing a new Intel build, will have to wait until 1st week of July for the Haswell cpu.

    Intel Pentium Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz LGA 1150 Boxed Processor - PREORDER PRESALE-301275 - Micro Center

    Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard 608745 - Micro Center

    Dell P2815Q 28" LED Ultra HD Monitor FPK7C - Micro Center

    ​cpu and monitor are definite purchase. Just haven't made up mind on motherboard, psu. Ram, ssd's case and video cards are already decided. I guess you can say I'm lucky to live near a Microcenter here in the states with Newegg being a back up for me.
    Go for z97 chipset motherboard buddy they are broadwell compatible too.
    MSi z97 gaming series are awesome.
    06-08-2014 07:57 AM
  20. kg4icg's Avatar
    I would recommend a Seasonic or a model from a brand that uses/rebrands Seasonic PSUs (Antec, Corsair use some Seasonic PSUs and all XFX are basically Seasonic), . They are a highly regarded manufacturer of PSUs. If you want to check if the model you choose is manufactured by Seasonic you can take a look at this list PSU Makers: 0-9 And A-B - Who's Who In Power Supplies, 2013: Brands Vs. Manufacturers

    From what I've heard/read the manufacturer of RAM doesn't really matter (Corsair, Kingston, Team Group, G.Skill, Crucial, Patriot, etc. are all fine). Most people seem to pick by MHz, CL, price and looks. (don't forget to check if they are single, dual or even quad rank).
    Thanks, I'm not new at this, Last system I built in which I'm using right now is a I7-3770K on Gigabyte GA_Z77X-UP5TH motherboard with a Zotac 670GTX and 16gb 2x8gb modules Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 with a Corsair PSU inside a Corsair Carbide 400R and the cpu is cooled with a Corsair H100i with 120gb SSD and a 1tb hdd, next build will be all ssds.
    06-08-2014 07:59 AM
  21. kg4icg's Avatar
    I meant to show this board Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard 244343 - Micro Center
    But I'm leaning more for this board GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD7 TH LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com which means I have to go thru Newegg which is no big deal. Then again I could go the X79 route with Hexacore cpu and quad channel memory.http://www.microcenter.com/search/se...rtby=pricehigh , it is not like I don't have a good cpu selection and pick up a bundle http://www.microcenter.com/site/bran...r-bundles.aspx
    Last edited by kg4icg; 06-08-2014 at 08:16 AM.
    06-08-2014 08:06 AM
  22. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    next build will be all ssds.
    Aren't you worried about the limited write-cycles?
    06-08-2014 08:22 AM
  23. kg4icg's Avatar
    Aren't you worried about the limited write-cycles?
    The newer SSD's have a longer life span. Most of my important stuff is always backed up with 48gb of Onedrive space and I have other means of backup storage including a raid 5 nas with 4 1tb hdd's.
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    06-08-2014 08:25 AM
  24. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Is the PC a need right now? I think at this point, I'd just wait for Broadwell and its DDR4 RAM, see how it's priced.
    06-08-2014 10:52 AM
  25. Akash Patel's Avatar
    Is the PC a need right now? I think at this point, I'd just wait for Broadwell and its DDR4 RAM, see how it's priced.
    It will come probably in 2015 so if someone want now they cant wait for 6 months.
    06-08-2014 10:59 AM
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