1. Milney's Avatar
    I get it, a Edge is a long way behind... Should (and could) they move Edge development to the store?
    06-22-2018 06:04 AM
  2. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Then they'd have to deal with the fact that not many people would download it and use it. As a part of the OS, Edge has more of a chance at getting used. I use it with little issue. My only complaint is it sometimes struggles with YouTube.
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    06-22-2018 07:36 AM
  3. xandros9's Avatar
    Then they'd have to deal with the fact that not many people would download it and use it. As a part of the OS, Edge has more of a chance at getting used. I use it with little issue. My only complaint is it sometimes struggles with YouTube.
    I believe Groove and some other apps are in the Store. They're already pre-installed so I don't think it will appear different to end-users.

    I think the biggest factor is whether Edge is moving fast enough to make the time difference between major updates a liability. Apple updates Safari as part of the OS and it seems to work fine with that.
    Jupast likes this.
    06-22-2018 09:57 AM
  4. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Good point. Edge works for me, but when I use Chrome, I can definitely see how much Edge needs to improve in certain areas.
    Lukob likes this.
    06-22-2018 10:17 AM
  5. Cbarnhorst's Avatar
    Edge can be updated on the monthly Patch Tuesdays in the Quality updates. I have no issues with Edge so I don't care if it is a part of the OS. It integrates with a lot of features and I am fine with it as it is now.
    07-03-2018 11:06 AM
  6. rmark66's Avatar
    Yes, they don't have market share with Edge now (4%-5%). So, they don't have much to lose by continuing to slowing add features. They have almost a whole market to gain if they speed up delivery of features.
    07-03-2018 11:19 AM
  7. rmark66's Avatar
    They don't add features right now to Edge in monthly updated, it doesn't do everything other browsers do and it will never catch up by continuing this slow pace. It cannot catch up because the more full featured browsers like Chrome are still added features faster, so Edge is being left behind.
    07-03-2018 11:22 AM
  8. froi francisco's Avatar
    hell yes! this is the only way they can push updates faster for Edge who by the way badly needing a huge update. An update that we can at least compare download manager, saved login, bookmark manager, history manager to Firefox.
    07-03-2018 11:48 AM
  9. realwarder's Avatar
    Edge is two parts already: A UI and a web display component. The former (Edge) could easily be part of the Store and updated more frequently to add features. The EdgeHTML object that is used by other developers and other applications in the OS is the bit that is more stable but gets monthly security fixes already. The APIs on it change a lot less frequently.

    I'm not a Chrome user - just Edge. What is missing these days other than performance? We have extensions, form fills, passwords stored etc. I guess the UI is pretty poor for managing favorites. If the UI was an app then that could be updated with usability enhancements more quickly. All this talk about catching up... where is it behind?
    Fabrizzio Marco likes this.
    07-03-2018 11:57 AM
  10. BanditoTR's Avatar
    Yes and no doubts about it. It should make the development and update cycle quicker
    07-03-2018 12:12 PM
  11. wpcautobot's Avatar
    Rather than have discussion about it, I'd rather just know if Microsoft is planning on separating it still or if they shelved it.
    07-03-2018 12:17 PM
  12. jazman_777's Avatar
    And Edge on Android is pretty nice (especially having adblocker now)
    07-03-2018 12:41 PM
  13. Martin Plamondon's Avatar
    I don't use Edge, don't like it so I don't mind really.
    07-03-2018 12:56 PM
  14. deadonthefloor's Avatar
    Ugh.

    The number of I don't use Edge, I don't care responses are silly.
    Do you use apps? Are you excited about UWP wrapped PWA's????

    These will rely on EdgeHTML and Chakra.

    Edge is really three components. Edge, the UWP app, EdgeHTML and Chakra.

    EdgeHTML and Chakra will likely always be tied to OS for reasons. Edge the UWP app could be updated at a different cadence, but then I fear that the app will become bloated while the html/JS engines will languish.

    So, for now, I'm cool with it being tied to the OS.
    Fabrizzio Marco likes this.
    07-03-2018 01:34 PM
  15. Richard Toft's Avatar
    I use edge all the time without any issues, should they split it to allow faster development? It's tricky edge already powers so much of the os at the moment, I'd like to say yes to speed up the browser development but would this be at the expense of the os,cshell, windows on arm, project Andromeda etc?
    deadonthefloor likes this.
    07-03-2018 01:36 PM
  16. tayyabhasan's Avatar
    I think the whole reason it lags behind the competition is, its is tied to OS, if and when they make it a separate entity, its updates will hit people way faster.
    07-03-2018 02:31 PM
  17. Vincent McLaughlin's Avatar
    Long way behind?

    Maybe a couple of features are missing or can be improved, but I wouldn't say it's way behind. I think much of Edge issues come from certain sites not fully supporting or supporting Edge at all.

    I haven't had any issues with Edge, except when I use it on my Note 8. Some sites don't support the browser. I haven't used it on my home computer much, because I would typically use my old Surface Pro. However, it has a boot loop that I need to fix and just haven't had time to sit and do it.
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    07-03-2018 02:38 PM
  18. Fabrizzio Marco's Avatar
    Google is the problem on that one. I use hooktube.com
    Or MyTube has a APP.
    07-03-2018 02:49 PM
  19. MullenWP's Avatar
    The reason is, just as many pointed above, Edge is tied to OS for web page rendering, which used share many apps. Therefore, it can't have breaking change every month.
    I understand Edge has 2 missions: one for itself, and one for the whole system. However, I don't think that to achieve one goal it must compromise another. Why don't let the system have 2 web page engines at the same time? The Edge uses the latest version (monthly update) and the system uses stable version (update every half year). On one hand Edge could have much faster update pace, and on the other hand new changes for the web page engines could have more testing opportunity before widely used by all apps, it would be a win-win.
    07-03-2018 05:55 PM
  20. enduserbestpractice's Avatar
    they need to do something, yes make it work. at least.. people laugh at its functionality, I cant pay my bills on line for some sites, follow links or use dropdowns,, I don't see the value in edge? just years of lip service so far.

    when I try to cast video to my TV, from edge it is frustrating as it is unreliable to paly a video with out several crashes, maybe it has value to corporations and they forgot about the consumer again..? good luck with that. my android phone streams 100% reliably and same video quality !

    I used to be able to ask Cortana or Bing to find a song and it would find the song and open it in grove for me to buy they broke they ,

    now google and amazon do that no echo system here , nothing to keep me hear after years
    of following these things , but the 80% completion project rule for Microsoft has been evident for many years
    now.
    07-04-2018 11:11 AM
  21. Jason Rosenthal's Avatar
    I think having a version of Edge for the most popular version of windows would have helped market share. Having it only on Windows 10 is what killed it. People running Windows 7 were forced to switch to another browser as IE was ignored. Since people were using chrome at work and on their androids, might was well install it on the home PC with Windows 10...

    Having Edge in the store or part of the OS is irrelevant. They can send patches on any timeline for OS or store. They just need to work more aggressively for more frequent updates, but that doesn't solve the Windows 7 trap where most Windows users today are unable to install Edge.
    07-04-2018 02:49 PM
  22. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    if it helps with faster bugfixes and maintenace yes, otherwise no. I like the integrative holistic exprience with windows and other apps over the wild west see what you get in terms of performance and stability experience. I don't understand why performance, security and stability, possibly feature updates for Edge can't happen over more regular windows updates, much like what happens with security updates (what seems to happen almost every other day). The browser, next to productivity apps, is likely the most used app anyway. Even maps have their own regular updates outside of the microsoft store!
    07-07-2018 10:03 AM
  23. agd87's Avatar
    I remember reading a while ago that Microsoft planned to put Edge into the store so it can be updated more regularly but in typical Microsoft style they kept delaying it.

    https://m.windowscentral.com/microso...ore-redstone-3
    07-22-2018 09:32 PM

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