09-10-2014 05:53 AM
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  1. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    What are you looking for in the-hopefully-upcoming Nokia Lumia 1525/30? I know there are probably threads for this but I'm-quite simply-much too lazy to go looking for it and read through nine pages of various opinions and meaningless arguments just to post something no one will notice.
    First off, I hope this phone comes out before the Christmas holidays, as that's when my upgrade comes around and if there isn't a new 15xx series I'll probably go for the HTC One M8 with Windows. If the aforementioned Nokia Lumia meets my expectations, I'll definitely get it.
    Obviously, a 6 inch 1080p IPS LCD screen with Nokia's iconic ClearBlack label and beautiful contrast, mature and realistic colors, warm temperatures, fantastic viewing angles, etc. In other words, I'd love for the screen to be improved further but if it's left how it is it's still one of the best screens out there.
    The newest Snapdragon Qualcomm chip available. The 808 and 810 just came out, but perhaps asking for a chip not expected to be in a phone until early Spring of 2015 to show up before Christmas is too much. At the very least, this phone needs to surpass the One M8 like it was a still stone.
    I'll accept a 20mp PureView camera just like the 1520, but with a better sensor, and a much faster shutter speed, and a quicker focus would be great as well. And a much needed improvement on the panorama mode, but a lot of this is stuff that's software fixes as opposed to hardware.
    32gb in-built memory with a microSD slot upgradeable with cards up to 128gb. This also is in the old phone but it's still a necessary feature.
    A new design. The corners on the 1520 are just a tad bit too harsh and at any rate with almost a year on the phone a new design or at least a better design is in order. And honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing on-screen software soft keys to replace the physical soft keys, as I've heard only good things-of course, after you originally get used to the difference-and it would allow the screen bezel to shrink and make the phone less cumbersome with the same amazing screen.
    Keep the physical two-stage camera button, as it's only useful and with a flagship phone there's no real need to cut back a few cents.
    Qi wireless charging. A feature unfortunately missing in most phones, and a useful commodity to many.
    A wider variety of bright colors and slim, stylish usage of aluminum or even better magnesium(lighter and stronger) to add structural strength and a noticeable design touch.
    Move the headphone jack. On a smaller phone it's most practical in one of the corners but on such a large phone it would probably be better to bring it over a few millimeters towards the center. It's still easy to use in landscape mode to watch videos but won't be as obtrusive.
    At least 2gb of RAM, but possibly three. Of course, as of now 3gb of RAM isn't needed but it looks good on paper and it helps future proof the phone.
    IR blaster. It's one of the only features that no Nokia to date has and although it's little more than a novelty it's fun and can be useful.
    Large batter. The current battery is 3,400 I believe but with a better chip the battery should last even longer. Long battery life is a great selling point and with the obvious efficiency of Windows Phone(just look at the HTC One M8. The exact same phone, except the Android has a 12 hour average battery life and the Windows has 21) will surely help make the battery last even longer.
    Touching up on design, although polycarbonate plastic feels premium and looks good, texture isn't great. Improve the feel of the phone, make it less slippery. One of the biggest breaking points of buying such a large phone is picking it up and feeling like it's a little slippery.
    Possibly 64-bit. Microsoft has hinted this is the future of Windows Phones anyways, and why not start now? Other phones and tablets have already come out, and it helps future proof the phone.
    This is just idle speculation, but I'd love to see a Sapphire Glass display. It's 2.5 times harder than Corning's Gorilla Glass and is practically 'finger-print and scratch proof'.
    Of course, fix any and all of the previous hardware malfunctions and problems the 1520 had, make it more reliable. I've seen too many accounts of "My 1520 did this wrong!" and "Why would Nokia give me such piece of crap?"
    And this is something a lot of people have suddenly wanted in a Nokia flagship...front facing speakers. I think it would work amazingly on the 15xx series, especially if we make the physical soft keys on-screen. We could add two front facing speakers and barely make the phone taller by removing the entire bezel on the bottom of the screen. Like with the HTC One M8, it's a great selling point.
    EDIT: Also nice would be decreased weight. For it's size the 1520 is quite heavy. I'd like to see it be below 200g. At least 200g, the weight of the Note III.
    Additionally, a stylus or at least stylus support(that would probably be more practical to sell the stylus separately). A stylus that does not require batteries-a fault of the stylus for the Surface Pro 3-with fantastic accuracy and neat features connected directly to apps like OneNote.
    And a measure of water resistant/dust proof certifications. Not to the extent of Sony, maybe, but at least coat the inside of the headphone jack and add a small rubber stopper to the microUSB or coat it as well. Just enough where if you spill a whole cup of water on your phone you won't have to worry. Or if you drop it in the shallow end of a pool and immediately retrieve it it'll be fine.

    And of course, I'm hoping that this phone is the first Windows Phone to launch with Windows Phone 9, which will hopefully fix many of the current OS problems.
    It's a lot to ask for...and quite a bit of it like the front facing speakers probably won't happen...especially by Christmas. On the other hand...if at least Microsoft told us the details of the 1525/30 by Christmas I might wait just to get it.
    Am I missing anything? What else are you looking for in the new 15xx?
    Last edited by Zachary Boddy; 08-27-2014 at 09:23 PM.
    08-27-2014 08:55 PM
  2. tejanaqkilica's Avatar
    I'm looking for the price in fact, if Microsoft want's to attract Apple fans out should price the new 15xx at about 0.99$ and "invent" a new, unique charger which should sell separately for about 5000$, that should do the trick.
    Also should rename a bunch of stuff like the glance screen (if will be available) should name it, Diamond sun rays with unicorn tears, and the messaging hub"talk with people with firezmonikon"
    Plus some ads that says "We invent communications, not cellphones, but communication"
    08-27-2014 09:26 PM
  3. 05Paris's Avatar
    I think the 1520 is perfect just as it is. If I didn't already have a 1520 it would be my next phone, period. I will address two issues you brought up: 1) it's slippery...most folks have a cover which negates any issues there; 2) Qi charge is overrated...most of us use the plug-in charger anyway. I had the Qi charge with my 920 and used it some at first because it was new but finally went with just the plug-in charging.
    08-27-2014 09:31 PM
  4. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I agree, the 1520 is a fantastic phone, but we're in the process of entering a new era, a new generation of smartphones where the 1520 will quickly became ancient and outdated to all except current Windows fans. It's practically inevitable-the 1520 being arguably Nokia's best phone to date-that Microsoft will release the 1525/30. If you could improve anything about the 1520, what would it be? For example, the screen. The 1520 uses Corning's Gorilla Glass 2, which was outdated when the 1520 came out and is much more potent to scratches and finger prints than Gorilla Glass 3 and the newest upcoming generation of displays, Sapphire Glass.
    08-27-2014 09:52 PM
  5. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    In addition, the 1520's core is two generations behind. It's still powerful and fast, but we can expect apps and features that the 1520 won't be able to support in the next few years. And also, updates that the core won't support. Not only will the new 15xx series be faster, more powerful, and better in every way performance wise, it'll be more future proof, ready to meet the next generation of phones head on and kick its ****.
    08-27-2014 09:56 PM
  6. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Wait the forum censors "but with two t's?" Seriously? Okay haha.
    08-27-2014 09:57 PM
  7. Trevor Wolfe's Avatar
    Yep pretty much my dream device there. Want 30mp cam and sylus for onenote and ir blaster for tv and front speakers for listening to music and big screen cause its awesome and expandable memory and it needs to be on Verizon ;)
    08-28-2014 04:01 AM
  8. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Well said. A better camera wouldn't be a bad addition but space is an issue here. I'd sacrifice that 30mp camera for the old 20mp with an improved sensor, dual tone LED flash, etc. for new hardware that makes the 1525/30 the fastest device in the world.(HTC One M8 for Windows should be pushed to third.)
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    08-28-2014 09:26 AM
  9. Trevor Wolfe's Avatar
    One thing that's missing that I really want is xenon flash. It is freaking amazing. Had it on my 928 and miss it on my icon
    08-28-2014 01:46 PM
  10. theefman's Avatar
    I agree, the 1520 is a fantastic phone, but we're in the process of entering a new era, a new generation of smartphones where the 1520 will quickly became ancient and outdated to all except current Windows fans. It's practically inevitable-the 1520 being arguably Nokia's best phone to date-that Microsoft will release the 1525/30. If you could improve anything about the 1520, what would it be? For example, the screen. The 1520 uses Corning's Gorilla Glass 2, which was outdated when the 1520 came out and is much more potent to scratches and finger prints than Gorilla Glass 3 and the newest upcoming generation of displays, Sapphire Glass.
    I'm curious what functionality exists on other platforms that represensts this "new era" of smartphones. So far all I've seen is people announcing phones with ever increasing spec numbers but no actual new functionality so what exactly is the 1520 incapable of?
    08-28-2014 01:56 PM
  11. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    It's not what the 1520 is incapable of now, it's what it will be. I know that the 1520 is great, but I created this thread to talk about what we wanted in the next version. There's a lot of new technology that isn't necessary quite yet but will become more prominent within the next few years. Sapphire screens being a great example, as they're clearly superior to Gorilla Glass 3. 64-bit phones seem to be the future. Eventually-once batteries become better-QHD. Wireless charging capability where you walk into your house and your phone charges in your pocket-this has already been in beta for a long time and works well but has yet to be commercialized. If/when the 15xx series is updated I want to get the best you can get. I don't want the 1520 copied and pasted I want a phone that's better in every single way.
    Agreed, a Xenon flash would be a great addition.
    08-28-2014 07:13 PM
  12. Trevor Wolfe's Avatar
    It would be cool if the used the 925 styling for it.
    08-28-2014 07:18 PM
  13. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Eh, I wouldn't count on it. The 1520 is still a great device and the 1525 would just have some incremental updates.

    It's more likely that Nokia will work on a 1020 successor, instead of a 1520 one.
    JamesPTao likes this.
    08-28-2014 07:24 PM
  14. switch side method's Avatar
    Personally the only update that needs to be done is solor powered charging that's on the shell. Never have to worry about battery. For me 1520 is perfect. 1080p screen. Don't need sapphire glass as a case is the best way to protect the screen and don't put keys or money in the same pocket. Process wise... It plays up to date games....want to play more powerful games? Buy a ps4/xbox one (don't mean to sound rude saying that) memory is great and the SD card is perfect. Wireless charging I don't need, 6" screen is a joy, camera is great as I just take pics and not a pro photographer. For me personally... I don't need an update to the 1520. It does all I need and more. Everyone has different preferences but I personally don't think we need a 1520 successor yet. Be awful if we went down the apple road and released a new device every year
    JamesPTao likes this.
    08-28-2014 07:35 PM
  15. Trevor Wolfe's Avatar
    Hows that awful? That's called staying relevant!
    08-28-2014 07:47 PM
  16. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    The point is, the 1520 is a fantastic device right now (never said I don't like it, I absolutely love everything about it), but it is about relevance. You can't deny that smartphones continuously get better, especially now with new technology breakthroughs happening every day.
    It's not about how good the 1520 is, it's about Microsoft keeping up with other mobile producers.
    Snapdragon announced the release of their new 808 and 810 Qualcomm processor chips back in April. The first phones featuring these vastly superior chips are expected to arrive in early 2015. These chips provide greater power, efficiency, and support for the newest features. One of these new chips would be a perfect replacement for the now outdated 800 chip in the 1520, and as these new chips support 55mp cameras, for the 1020 as well.
    The 1520 is very slowly becoming a mid-range device. Even though the IPS LCD screen is still one of the best-absolutely gorgeous-how long before it's overshadowed by QHD screens and the battery life of these phones surpasses the 1520 because of the newest Snapdragon chips and newest batteries? Could you imagine a QHD screen on the 1520?(not for a while but still, it would be amazing).
    Be open minded guys, if Microsoft wants to remain relevant in a quickly changing and vastly improving technological world, they have to release successors with updated software. The 1520 is an impressive device, but without these new chips, it could become slow in comparison to the next flagship phones.
    It's not even the fastest phone by Windows standards, with the HTC One M8 taking that spot. There's something wrong with that.
    So if/when the new 15xx series comes out, how can we improve the 1520? You can't say there's absolutely nothing to improve because you're wrong(of course you're entitled to your own opinion but there's a lot of things the 1520 can have that it doesn't). Front facing speakers? Fantastic. I love that idea. There's so much that modern technology allows us to do, and we can't do it with the 1520. Even if you don't think you won't use any of this, you might be surprised. And it's not just about you. At the same time, how can Microsoft advertise their "superior" phones when their arguably best phone ever can't compare to the newest.
    It's about relevance. Staying relevant, staying modern, and doing it as quickly as possible. Release the best device you can and do it before the competition. The Galaxy Note is the 1520's main competitor...and the 4 is coming out.
    08-28-2014 09:44 PM
  17. switch side method's Avatar
    Hows that awful? That's called staying relevant!
    what I mean is, it wouldn't be practical to release a new device every year.18 months would be ideal as most people can't afford to buy the latest products every year so I wouldnt want to have an out dated device within a year of having it knowing that a new one is just around the corner
    08-30-2014 10:24 AM
  18. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    But even though it's only been a year, the 1520 can't compete with new phones. On paper, the 1520 just isn't impressive.
    08-30-2014 10:54 AM
  19. switch side method's Avatar
    On paper..no.. But functionality.. Yes. It takes great pics, 4G is perfect, wireless charging is lovely.perfect screen size..enough storage plus SD card..what more do you really need? It's easy to say sapphire glass.. But I don't need that as I am not clumsy and make sure my phone u in a case in my pocket with no keys or lose change...so sapphire glass is not an issue for me. 1080p is perfect and I have no plans to buy a 4K tv as you need to buy a 4k laptop to transfer to blu-ray to play your footage from a 4k phone.
    08-30-2014 02:50 PM
  20. JamesPTao's Avatar
    In addition, the 1520's core is two generations behind. It's still powerful and fast, but we can expect apps and features that the 1520 won't be able to support in the next few years. And also, updates that the core won't support. Not only will the new 15xx series be faster, more powerful, and better in every way performance wise, it'll be more future proof, ready to meet the next generation of phones head on and kick its ****.
    If you want a future proof phone get ms to put intels new mobile processors in a Lumia! They destroy snapdragon. Unfortunately i doubt they will as they will be more pricey.
    08-30-2014 03:05 PM
  21. switch side method's Avatar
    It could happen tho as the price of tech usually falls pretty fast... Bit slap a name on the phone and the price stays the same. I remember in 1994 where a 2 meg of ram for the amiga A1200 costs around 400 lol
    08-31-2014 06:00 AM
  22. salmanahmad's Avatar
    If you want a future proof phone get ms to put intels new mobile processors in a Lumia! They destroy snapdragon. Unfortunately i doubt they will as they will be more pricey.
    Intel doesn't make mobile processors at the moment, they wanted to release a Baytrail chip for Android however I believe it was canceled.

    The most powerful SOC for mobile right now is Tegra K1, it beats all existing Snapdragon technology however two limitations:

    1) Tegra K1 is currently only available for tablets.

    2) Nvidia is not working to optimize their chip for Windows Phone.

    It could happen tho as the price of tech usually falls pretty fast... Bit slap a name on the phone and the price stays the same. I remember in 1994 where a 2 meg of ram for the amiga A1200 costs around 400 lol
    Actually, since last year after Snapdragon 800 there haven't been massive improvements in the SOC technology because Snapdragon is trying to work out both battery and heat issues, I believe.

    The Snaodragon 800 being used since 2013 is for most purposes, still future-proof.
    08-31-2014 08:50 AM
  23. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    On paper..no.. But functionality.. Yes. It takes great pics, 4G is perfect, wireless charging is lovely.perfect screen size..enough storage plus SD card..what more do you really need? It's easy to say sapphire glass.. But I don't need that as I am not clumsy and make sure my phone u in a case in my pocket with no keys or lose change...so sapphire glass is not an issue for me. 1080p is perfect and I have no plans to buy a 4K tv as you need to buy a 4k laptop to transfer to blu-ray to play your footage from a 4k phone.
    But it's not just about you, it's about new and potential customers that are looking into possibly getting a Windows phone. And what do they find? Something that simply can't compete statistically to brand new phones at a similar price. And even if you don't need any fancy features, the screen could be even better(not 4k, that just drains battery), and the camera is stupidly slow.
    And you're careful with your phone, so am I, but accidents happen.
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    08-31-2014 10:29 AM
  24. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    1520 is a pretty great phone. I'd love to add the following new ingredients to an already great formulae for 1520 successor:
    SD805
    3Gb RAM
    Adreno 420
    4k video recording
    Faster camera app loading times plus faster shooting times for photos
    120fps and slowmo
    Addition for more automatic modes in camera like portrait, sports, smile, hdr, night
    Better low light quality in video recording specially
    Better continuous autofocus
    F/2 aperture
    Come with dedicated pen and pen input support plus find a way to put pen within phone itself

    They can keep the:
    great 3400mah battery
    IPS LCD display with assertive technology
    32GB internal with SD card slot
    1/2.3" sensor with Zeiss lens, preview tech, super sampling tech, OIS
    And last but not the least GLANCE
    Last edited by DoctorSaline; 08-31-2014 at 11:08 AM.
    08-31-2014 10:57 AM
  25. salmanahmad's Avatar
    1520 is a pretty great phone. I'd love to add the following new ingredients to an already great formulae for 1520 successor:
    SD805
    3Gb RAM
    Adreno 420
    4k video recording
    Faster camera app loading times plus faster shooting times for photos
    120fps and slowmo
    Addition for more automatic modes in camera like portrait, sports, smile, hdr, night
    Better low light quality in video recording specially
    Better continuous autofocus
    F/2 aperture
    Come with dedicated pen and pen input support plus find a way to put pen within phone itself

    They can keep the:
    great 3400mah battery
    IPS LCD display with assertive technology
    32GB internal with SD card slot
    1/2.3" sensor with Zeiss lens, preview tech, super sampling tech, OIS
    And last but not the least GLANCE
    For one thing, 3GB of RAM isn't required, Snapdragon 805 was made for 2K and 4K displays, F2.0 would allow more light but make the images softer, f2.4 with OIS is pretty good.

    A lot of the features can be added through software updates, the only thing a new 1525 would do is **** off existing 1520 owners.
    08-31-2014 11:35 AM
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