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  1. James Falconer's Avatar
    Curious. As community manager around these parts, I have almost one of everything. iPhones, Android Phones, Windows Phones, BlackBerry phones, you name it... but from within the Windows Central community, what would you say to an Apple, Android or BlackBerry user looking to switch to Windows Phone? What are the great things you can't get anywhere else? Sound off!
    12-02-2016 05:01 PM
  2. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I'd tell them don't get one. I can no longer, in good faith, recommend a Windows phone - any model to any one. It's just too risky now. And how intimately can I know what their usage needs are?
    I bailed out to Android a couple months ago to an S7 edge. It's like a whole new level of "turn-the-key" and everything works.
    But I DID keep service on my Windows phone so as a Hobby it's GREAT!

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    12-02-2016 05:44 PM
  3. slivy58's Avatar
    A couple of years ago we'd have given it serious thought and dependant on their needs may have given it a recommendation, now I'd say "run, run as fast as you can" and that's no bull - And most people I know are not into the "fix & repair daily" routine either. As for "great things", see nothing WM can provide that will trump the other platforms including camera, Continuum, Windows Hello, and so fourth. If the core structure is flawed then anything that's meant to work with it will be too, but not necessarily for everyone, and that's one of its big quirks, inconsistency.

    Although I use it we will NOT recommend it in its present state, and sorry for raining on your parade.
    12-02-2016 06:03 PM
  4. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    ..., and that's one of its big quirks, inconsistency.

    Although I use it we will NOT recommend it in its present state, and sorry for raining on your parade.
    And THAT'S a WRAP !

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    12-02-2016 06:15 PM
  5. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    But I will say when you bail out from Windows Phone, you can get a little homesick. So, like a new home, you might paint a few walls, maybe some wallpaper - I went with wallpaper:

    1 S7 edge Full Dresser Windroid Home Screen

    screenshot_20161201-173547.jpg

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    12-02-2016 06:51 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    But I will say when you bail out from Windows Phone, you can get a little homesick. So, like a new home, you might paint a few walls, maybe some wallpaper - I went with wallpaper:

    1 S7 edge Full Dresser Windroid Home Screen

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    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Nice wallpaper!😊
    12-02-2016 07:07 PM
  7. Nate W's Avatar
    My ideas...StandardIzation, simplicity, and security...but who's really trying to convince who here?

    Android is the most vastly used mobile OS and you either love it or you don't. I used it for a long time because it was popular, cheap, sometimes free depending what I got it on, and I could not afford apple.

    My work gave me my first iPhone 4. It was neat, smooth, and everything had its own place. I could be two more pages explaining what I mean by that in detail, so hopefully you can look holistically at this and know what I mean. You'll find this with windows mobile and iOS. I stopped using Android completely just recently and won't use it again unless it is provided to me or handed down. Granted they're cool to look at and all, but there are other things more important than that. I am fine with tweaking and fixing so i can bare the Windows Mobile in its existence currently. The company I work for will not support anything other than iOS, WP8, W10M, and Blackberry (while its still around) and I can respect that and the reasons why. I don't have anything against Androids but plan to keep using Windows and iOS devices. That's the beauty of having many choices for things we use and depend on. We are not a one glove fits all kind of people anymore. It is a good thing all of them are around.
    12-02-2016 07:58 PM
  8. dkediger's Avatar
    I'd be sure to point out that Verizon has the best Windows phones....

    \_(ツ)_/

    Seriously, you just can't in good conscience recommend a Windows phone to anyone looking to switch. And that makes me sad.
    12-02-2016 09:05 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    We seem to forget this is an enthusiast site. Many ordinary folk don't use smartphones like we do. Calls, email, text and social media are what most people routinely do with their phones. To that end, WM10 makes sense plus the added bonus of excellent cameras throughout the price range. I certainly wouldn't recommend Windows to a hard-core power user because the few apps on the platform are crippled compared to iOS or Android. It's bad enough there's an app gap, compounding the problem is the disparity in features compared to the competing platforms.
    12-02-2016 10:34 PM
  10. abhishek singh21's Avatar
    I believe windows phone is more suitable and could be easily adopted by professionals they will find continuum very productive and will definitely be a go to phone to get the work done. Other than this windows 10 mobile is work in progress and it will take a lot of effort in making a user switch and then stay with it for a considerable amount of time.

    rest we all are aware of what WP lacks.
    Last edited by abhishek singh21; 12-02-2016 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Rephrasing
    12-02-2016 10:44 PM
  11. aximtreo's Avatar
    To me, having a WM phone is comparable to having a Sony Walkman. I don't use it as my go to music player but I like having it around to remind me of better days. I haven't recommended WP to anyone in over a year and can't see doing it again in the next year. Hardware is good to excellent depending on which phone you get; software is far from a finished usable product.
    12-03-2016 07:36 AM
  12. Joe920's Avatar
    Break their phones, steal all their money, and give them a free Lumia 950XL.

    More seriously, the app situation is worse so it would have to come from security, or OS looks and usability. I made a thread discussing OS differences, and while WP stacks up great there aren't any earth shattering differences to make anyone switch to WP.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/gen...t-app-gap.html
    Last edited by Joe920; 12-05-2016 at 11:48 AM. Reason: Fixed link to OS comparison thread
    12-03-2016 10:25 AM
  13. G4Grandad's Avatar
    What would you say to this Windows Phone user to persuade him to stick with Windows Phone when even this Windows Central app is suddenly broken and not loading anything I've ever commented on? I've said this before: I love the look, feel and function of Windows Phone but I can't buy a 950 or XL from Microsoft UK store, there's no hope of new stock arriving and the 650 can't offer anything different to my old 830 that's becoming increasingly buggy and annoying.
    12-03-2016 11:23 AM
  14. Joe920's Avatar
    What would you say to this Windows Phone user to persuade him to stick with Windows Phone when even this Windows Central app is suddenly broken and not loading anything I've ever commented on?
    I'd tell him the forum is also broken on my iPad. :)
    12-03-2016 11:24 AM
  15. Mark F24's Avatar
    Based on what? Every build has something broken in it and if it does work, the next build will break it.

    The apps I do use either disappear from the store after you get an update and do a hard reset (as recommended here) or kill your battery in half a day. There is only one thing about Windows you can depend on, there will be multiple functions that will not work with every new build.

    Continuum isn't stable either, to be honest, it's a total pain, that is one thing I was hoping to use more, not happening.
    12-03-2016 11:26 AM
  16. Joe920's Avatar
    I wonder if this thread is going the way the OP was expecting. :D
    12-03-2016 11:28 AM
  17. G4Grandad's Avatar
    I think you're right had the latest software update notification from Samsung on my Note 4 yesterday. I simply pressed Install without fear of the consequences. It was only then that I realised how worried I'd be about doing the same on the L830. I've just checked to see if everything is working normally on the Windows Central android app. It's not and the app is painfully slow 🐌 while Android Central works perfectly.
    Last edited by G4Grandad; 12-03-2016 at 12:35 PM.
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    12-03-2016 11:55 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'd tell him the forum is also broken on my iPad. :)
    And on my LG G5 running Nougat as well as my Passport running 10.3.3 ("finally" has replaced "coming soon").
    12-03-2016 01:19 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Based on what? Every build has something broken in it and if it does work, the next build will break it.
    You could very easily say the same about iOS or Android. Starting with iOS 7.0, every successive build has produced more bugs than the ones fixed by the previous version. Don't even get me started on Android. My G5's battery life has been cut to less than a half day due to Nougat and T-Mobile is sending alerts to G5 customers warning not to update. I got mine 2 days too late.

    Windows Mobile isn't perfect, far from it. But to suggest it's the only bug-infested OS is disingenuous at best.
    12-03-2016 01:27 PM
  20. tubesarmey's Avatar
    I don't know but i m satisfied with plenty of issue with WP
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    12-03-2016 01:29 PM
  21. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I wonder if this thread is going the way the OP was expecting. :D
    Yeah!

    Hey there, James, what do you think so far?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    12-03-2016 01:33 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I've never encouraged anyone to switch to another platform whether it happened to be BlackBerry, Symbian, Windows 10 Mobile, or Android (all of which I've used at some point). I never wanted to get any grief from them if they hated my recommendation.

    I will point out what is or is not available.

    To answer the question regarding unique features, I don't believe there are any features exclusive to Windows 10 Mobile at this time, so anything that Windows 10 Mobile has is available on other platforms.
    12-03-2016 01:45 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I don't believe there are any features exclusive to Windows 10 Mobile at this time, so anything that Windows 10 Mobile has is available on other platforms.
    Continuum. The closest equivalent is Andromium but that's in beta. Only a browser, file manager and music is working.....and badly. It's always running in the background and the only way to disable it is to sign out and reboot your phone.
    12-03-2016 01:53 PM
  24. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    Continuum. The closest equivalent is Andromium but that's in beta. Only a browser, file manager and music is working.....and badly. It's always running in the background and the only way to disable it is to sign out and reboot your phone.
    That's an OS and the reviews look pretty good.
    But it's not going on my S7e. And the only hobby device I have is dedicated to Insiders.
    But still Andromium looks very intriguing.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    12-03-2016 02:21 PM
  25. slivy58's Avatar
    You could very easily say the same about iOS or Android. Starting with iOS 7.0, every successive build has produced more bugs than the ones fixed by the previous version. Don't even get me started on Android. My G5's battery life has been cut to less than a half day due to Nougat and T-Mobile is sending alerts to G5 customers warning not to update. I got mine 2 days too late.

    Windows Mobile isn't perfect, far from it. But to suggest it's the only bug-infested OS is disingenuous at best.
    You are right that EVERY platform has its issues but is it to the extent seen on WM per each device? Having "A" issue on one device is far different than multiple ones, I can attest to the multiple part as I'm sure many others can as well.

    Don't think anyone is suggesting WM is the "only" bug-infested OS but to the extent it is, far and above the worst, leader of the pack shall we say. If I were to jot down my experiences here using just a couple of Windows Phones it would be extensive, combine those I know using Android/iOS devices, including myself, I'd be hard pressed to type a line or two... Those facts that we all find irksome (not bugs per se) about each platform not withstanding.
    12-03-2016 02:52 PM
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