02-28-2013 10:22 AM
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  1. ny_yankees's Avatar
    I am a Windows Phone 8 fan so I know what you mean. These exclusive nonsense only hurt the platform
    02-19-2013 11:54 PM
  2. Chregu's Avatar
    Bejeweled would be the only app I'm interested in so far. But as the Windows version offers all of this since the beginning, I'll just go on playing this one. I wouldn't pay for the same game again (after the original for WP, and the Bejeweled 3 for Windows) anyway, even tough the 'Butterfly mode' is my absolute favorite.

    So, no, I don't mind it. As long as there are no important first party apps exclusive, they can keep their games.
    02-20-2013 01:04 AM
  3. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Well this puts me into a bit of a conundrum. I would never buy a phone, no matter what OS it's running, from companies who use Foxconn to make their hardware simply because the hardware quality control coming out of those plants is, to be blunt, f-ing awful. So that leaves just HTC (which isn't a bad thing. Quite the opposite in fact). Having said that, if my WP8 experience isn't satisfactory due to Nokia being given special treatment, I will not buy a Lumia. I will, as one reply mentioned, buy an HTC One, which is a phone I might add, that should shut up the one or two posters who just gloated in this thread in poor sportsmanship. Show me a Nokia phone that even comes close. Don't worry, I can wait for them to try at MWC. Good luck. Your attitude is only hurting yourself. Nokia needs WP8. So making light of others being upset is pretty foolish unless you enjoy seeing the platform sit at 2% market share. You let me know how well those exclusive apps are working out for ya when people get peeved and move to another OS, Einstein.

    Smh
    02-20-2013 01:21 AM
  4. WasteSomeTime's Avatar
    Its not easy to recommend brands other than Nokia on the WP platform. What I dont like is when an apps is available for free on Nokia, but costs for every other brand.
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    02-20-2013 01:24 AM
  5. Chregu's Avatar
    Well this puts me into a bit of a conundrum. I would never buy a phone, no matter what OS it's running, from companies who use Foxconn to make their hardware simply because the hardware quality control coming out of those plants is, to be blunt, f-ing awful. So that leaves just HTC (which isn't a bad thing. Quite the opposite in fact). Having said that, if my WP8 experience isn't satisfactory due to Nokia being given special treatment, I will not buy a Lumia. I will, as one reply mentioned, buy an HTC One, which is a phone I might add, that should shut up the one or two posters who just gloated in this thread in poor sportsmanship. Show me a Nokia phone that even comes close. Don't worry, I can wait for them to try at MWC. Good luck. Your attitude is only hurting yourself. Nokia needs WP8. So making light of others being upset is pretty foolish unless you enjoy seeing the platform sit at 2% market share. You let me know how well those exclusive apps are working out for ya when people get peeved and move to another OS, Einstein.

    Smh
    I have slept very, very badly, so just let me try to understand your post:

    You think the company that builds the iPhone 5 has a bad hardware quality control? Don't you think it also depends on Foxconn's customer how much they want to invest in quality control? There are people who think that HTC produces phones with terrible quality.

    Why do you think the HTC One is so much better than the Lumia 920? I wouldn't agree on that like this, it has better hardware specs, but you'll only care about this, when you like big numbers. It looks much nicer, has better materials and is lighter, but I think this comes down to personal taste. Most limitations I see on the Windows Phone high-end hardware comes from Windows Phone, not from the hardware.

    Only people that are hysterical or very interested in games really mind that there are Lumia exclusive games. I don't think that hurts the platform too much. And speaking of Nokia developed software: HTC could provide a navigation system as Nokia does, they just decide not to. What brings me to another problem, HTC is just not really committed to Windows Phone. They want to sell phones with Android. There's nothing wrong with that, and it also has nothing to do with Nokia.

    So I don't really see where your frustration is coming from, but if you think the HTC One will make you happy, that's a great thing! No reason to write posts with such an attitude.
    02-20-2013 01:49 AM
  6. kevingerard8's Avatar
    From what I understand, it's Nokia that uses its resources to get these apps on Windows Phone. I'm sure most would agree that the purpose of these companies isn't to be altruistic, but rather to push their brand to the forefront.

    So far There has been a bigger push from Nokia in software support and marketing than any other OEM. It seems straight forward. They are putting in the effort; others, not so much.

    I can understand the frustration, but as another commenter mentioned, the anger is being misplaced. Either Microsoft takes over and starts pushing for apps in the way that Nokia is or other manufacturers step up their game and start showing that they care about their customers beyond the point in which they sell you their phones.
    02-20-2013 02:00 AM
  7. LazySunday's Avatar
    Well said chregu... I don't understand the pain of OP. When Nokia is investing their own money in pushing the developers to bring their apps on WP8 ecosystem, they shouldn't claim some exclusivity? In fact I would say Nokia should have forever exclusive for all the effort they are putting in bringing this ecosystem. Now, if MS brings app, there is no question of exclusivity anyway. As someone already said OP is barking at the wrong tree. Ask HTC to bring more apps or exclusives. I can tell they are more interested in borrowing metro as new skin to Android OS....While Nokia is slogging and convincing that WP is the most ideal for business phone.
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    02-20-2013 02:01 AM
  8. CaptDjob's Avatar
    This discussion about Lumia exclusive apps is so boring and I have to say, really hard to even understand. You are saying that Nokia shouldn't invest on their product? Why on earth you would want that?
    You could also say that why OIS, CBD and supersensitive display are exclusive to Lumia. Does these make you leave the platform also? This whining is so pathetic. Why don't you just buy Lumia if it matters so much to you?
    02-20-2013 02:03 AM
  9. jlp34876's Avatar
    Microsoft doing nothing.

    Other OEM doing nothing.

    Nokia doing everything they can, to give advantage on their products. So dont blame nokia because they are the one pushing hard for the platform.
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    02-20-2013 02:07 AM
  10. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Simple. Because they don't own their own plants anymore and outsource the hardware. And I've seen too many people exchanging due to factory defects because of that.
    02-20-2013 02:08 AM
  11. omniusovermind's Avatar
    They're pushing the platform are they? Remind me again which OEM signed carrier exclusivity deals? Ah.
    02-20-2013 02:10 AM
  12. jdhooghe's Avatar
    What has HTC done for the platform as a whole lately, OP? Why should Nokia give out their time and money in the form of these apps to those that do nothing? HTC has done NOTHING for WP and has only used it as another tree to sell phones.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, my 920 doesn't freeze either.
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    02-20-2013 02:18 AM
  13. CaptDjob's Avatar
    Simple. Because they don't own their own plants anymore and outsource the hardware. And I've seen too many people exchanging due to factory defects because of that.

    What? Nokia have their own factories. Of course they make subcontracting in Foxxcon, mutta you could say that Nokia owns its factories. When transitioning to Lumia, they used Compal, but what I have understood, all WP8 phones comes from Nokian owned factories. Smartphones are made in China, South Korea and Mexico (and one plant in brazil I think?). Feature phones are made in hungary, china and india and new plant should open in Vietnam withing weeks (or months). Vietnam factory should push tens of millions phones /Quarter.

    Production facilities - Nokia
    02-20-2013 02:23 AM
  14. omniusovermind's Avatar
    What has HTC done for the platform as a whole lately, OP? Why should Nokia give out their time and money in the form of these apps to those that do nothing? HTC has done NOTHING for WP and has only used it as another tree to sell phones.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, my 920 doesn't freeze either.
    Really.

    http://wmpoweruser.com/new-generatio...g-this-summer/

    New phones, not the 8x or 8s.
    02-20-2013 02:47 AM
  15. Mio_Ray's Avatar
    Nope.
    Sent from my Lumia 920 using Board Express
    02-20-2013 02:48 AM
  16. omniusovermind's Avatar
    What? Nokia have their own factories. Of course they make subcontracting in Foxxcon, mutta you could say that Nokia owns its factories. When transitioning to Lumia, they used Compal, but what I have understood, all WP8 phones comes from Nokian owned factories. Smartphones are made in China, South Korea and Mexico (and one plant in brazil I think?). Feature phones are made in hungary, china and india and new plant should open in Vietnam withing weeks (or months). Vietnam factory should push tens of millions phones /Quarter.

    Production facilities - Nokia
    They shut down their own Finnish factories on native soil. Not cool. That's where they BUILT their reputation in the first place.
    02-20-2013 02:49 AM
  17. WasteSomeTime's Avatar
    What has HTC done for the platform as a whole lately, OP? Why should Nokia give out their time and money in the form of these apps to those that do nothing? HTC has done NOTHING for WP and has only used it as another tree to sell phones.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, my 920 doesn't freeze either.

    Nokia is not liked by all. This exclusive crap is not helping WP. That means that there are less sales for WP. You have no idea how many times I was told that holding a Nokia product in your hand is like holding some cheap Ikea product.
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    02-20-2013 02:57 AM
  18. jlp34876's Avatar
    I think it may have something to do with tax which is higher in European countries so they tend to build in 3rd world countries or progressing countries.

    They shut down their own Finnish factories on native soil. Not cool. That's where they BUILT their reputation in the first place.
    02-20-2013 02:59 AM
  19. omniusovermind's Avatar
    I think it may have something to do with tax which is higher in European countries so they tend to build in 3rd world countries or progressing countries.
    That's a nice way of saying they're willing to abandon home soil so they can hire cheap labour. American car companies do this too but they still keep their American plants. If they didn't there'd be an uproar, and people would stop "buying American". Do Nokia deserve any less? I personally wouldn't trust a company that operates that way with my business, and I'm not Finnish.
    02-20-2013 03:02 AM
  20. Marcos Hidalgo's Avatar
    Only thing that annoys me about Nokia is that the 920 is only on ATT, I got the 8X purely based on that.
    Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
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    02-20-2013 03:05 AM
  21. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Only thing that annoys me about Nokia is that the 920 is only on ATT, I got the 8X purely based on that.
    Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
    I guess I better not tell you that HTC has higher spec phones on the way for wp8 in a couple months then.... :p
    02-20-2013 03:07 AM
  22. jlp34876's Avatar
    That's a nice way of saying they're willing to abandon home soil so they can hire cheap labour. A cop out.
    You know that they are loosing millions/billions of euros annually, its the right thing to do so that they will survive.

    @ WasteSomeTime
    That means that there are less sales for WP.
    Less sales for other OEM because they dont put efforts, better sales for nokia for their hardwork.

    You have no idea how many times I was told that holding a Nokia product in your hand is like holding some cheap Ikea product.
    Everyone has their own preference if they dont like it no one is forcing them to buy.
    02-20-2013 03:08 AM
  23. CaptDjob's Avatar
    They shut down their own Finnish factories on native soil. Not cool. That's where they BUILT their reputation in the first place.
    I am from Finland so don't tell me about that. It was shame that Nokia did what it did, but then again, it didn't make too much sense to have that factory in Finland.

    But your point being that Nokia don't manufacture their own phones is not valid.
    02-20-2013 03:10 AM
  24. omniusovermind's Avatar


    Less sales for other OEM because they dont put efforts
    There you go again with that? If your mouse has a scroll wheel try using it in an upward direction. You're wrong about that.

    By your logic if Samsung who also makes TVs focused on them more aggressively than their phones, they're not putting any effort into their other products.

    HTCs main income is currently in Android. From a business sense they'd be idiots not to push it harder. That's a LOT different than "doing nothing"

    Geez. :rolleyes:
    02-20-2013 03:15 AM
  25. jlp34876's Avatar
    HTCs main income is currently in Android. From a business sense they'd be idiots not to push it harder. That's a LOT different than "doing nothing"
    You just said it, they're not pushing it hard!

    Now everybody can stop whining if Nokia is pushing it hard and having exclusive apps.
    02-20-2013 03:22 AM
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