12-15-2015 05:53 PM
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  1. Brandon Keenan's Avatar
    Due to the problems that have not been fixed when going from 1520 to the 950xl I plan on selling it or returning it back to microsoft. Anyone else considering doing the same or am I just being too nitpicky with an OS that should have been completed by now.
    Last edited by Brandon Keenan; 11-30-2015 at 01:28 AM. Reason: content
    11-29-2015 09:40 PM
  2. g808's Avatar
    why?
    luke31 and rxc13 like this.
    11-29-2015 09:42 PM
  3. StevoPhilo's Avatar
    why?

    So he can sell the display dock and make money. Doesn't surprise me.
    11-29-2015 09:45 PM
  4. g808's Avatar
    Would be shocked if anyone pays over retail for this phone.
    11-29-2015 09:55 PM
  5. gerrymad's Avatar
    Is anyone else doing the same? Getting the display dock tomorrow from UPS and then its going up on craigslist.
    Good luck with that. I would be surprised if you get anything extra for it since it is going to be available reasonably soon at the Microsoft store. Hopefully you'll make your money back on the phone and then perhaps you can get a little extra for the dock. Considering the education discount is $65 you probably have more money in it already than some people will be able to buy a new one for.
    11-29-2015 10:12 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    Huh? Why can't you just return it? I'm sure it's not too late to return, or would you rather just sell it anyway?
    badMojo69 and rxc13 like this.
    11-29-2015 10:16 PM
  7. JRDEMASKUS's Avatar
    I am on the fence too.
    Should be worth $200 more than I paid for it.
    I don't remember the 1520 being soo glitchy and slow on release.
    I was really hoping to be much more impressed, blown away.
    But instead I am left wondering if I paid too much for something I didn't really need.
    Hoping the dock performs as expected, and gives me the experience I was looking for.
    11-30-2015 12:06 AM
  8. rdubmu's Avatar
    It shouldn't be worth $200 more than retail, it is now available at the MS store.
    SoCalBIGmike, rxc13 and Premium1 like this.
    11-30-2015 12:24 AM
  9. cracgor's Avatar
    I just returned mine and even tried to cancel the display dock, but they wouldn't let me. I guess I will put it up on eBay or give it away. I also have some screen protectors and a qi charger to deal with thanks to this dumb phone.
    11-30-2015 12:35 AM
  10. erzhik's Avatar
    Sorry, but the phone is not worth $200 over retail. I'd be surprised if you even got the retail price for it. My bet, $100 below retail because of open box.
    11-30-2015 12:41 AM
  11. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    Lots of fickle people in this world. I can't imagine anybody actually buying a 950XL without already knowing what to expect, with a not-yet-ready OS in addition to the normal bugs and glitches to be expected with a new high-end device. The only way anybody even knew it existed was from reading about it on sites like this one. It's not as if any site hid the issues with the OS. And then being so impatient as to get rid of it less than a week later because the experience is less than perfect. I just don't get it.
    11-30-2015 12:45 AM
  12. cracgor's Avatar
    Lots of fickle people in this world. I can't imagine anybody actually buying a 950XL without already knowing what to expect, with a not-yet-ready OS in addition to the normal bugs and glitches to be expected with a new high-end device. The only way anybody even knew it existed was from reading about it on sites like this one. It's not as if any site hid the issues with the OS. And then being so impatient as to get rid of it less than a week later because the experience is less than perfect. I just don't get it.
    You only have 30 days to get rid of it without eating the cost. You really can't even use it during that time because if it breaks, you can't return it either. Easier to return now and buy it again if the problems are fixed, maybe at a lower cost. But I've used windows phone long enough not to count on an immediate fix. Plus this is the most I've spent on a phone, and I expect no frustration for the price.
    11-30-2015 12:51 AM
  13. kappatau808's Avatar
    all phones have issues. from what i have read most of the 950/950xl issues can be solved with software updates. i have a galaxy s6. it kept freezing just kept spamming back after a few weeks, had it replaced now this new one has noise when taking videos and back button sometimes doesnt work. over $700 for a phone from a company that has been making phones for a long time and i am still getting issues
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    11-30-2015 01:01 AM
  14. kappatau808's Avatar
    no phone is ever worth more than what you paid for it. unless its like limited edition with specs a year advance than everyone else. also if you upgrade every year then i say yes you are always paying too much for something you don't need.
    11-30-2015 01:03 AM
  15. cracgor's Avatar
    all phones have issues. from what i have read most of the 950/950xl issues can be solved with software updates. i have a galaxy s6. it kept freezing just kept spamming back after a few weeks, had it replaced now this new one has noise when taking videos and back button sometimes doesnt work. over $700 for a phone from a company that has been making phones for a long time and i am still getting issues
    I don't think you should have those issues either. I bought a Lumia 640 with no issues except a case is more expensive than the phone.
    Mach_E, gcyoung, broar94 and 6 others like this.
    11-30-2015 01:06 AM
  16. Brandon Keenan's Avatar
    actually not making any money on it. selling it for retail. was going to return it but since its still on backorder and not shipping the next round until the 11th why not give someone else that wants it more than I do a shot at getting it before their order.
    11-30-2015 01:22 AM
  17. Brandon Keenan's Avatar
    I currently have the 1520.3 and have been using wp10 on it since it was allowed on the 1520. I knew what I was getting into but the exact same problems that I had on my 1520 were also present on the 950xl while not present on a 635 I have as a test phone. Case and point, an OS shouldnt so pitifully efficient that I cant get more than 10 hours of battery life from a 3300mah battery.
    11-30-2015 01:25 AM
  18. DeathMoJo's Avatar
    Lots of fickle people in this world. I can't imagine anybody actually buying a 950XL without already knowing what to expect, with a not-yet-ready OS in addition to the normal bugs and glitches to be expected with a new high-end device. The only way anybody even knew it existed was from reading about it on sites like this one. It's not as if any site hid the issues with the OS. And then being so impatient as to get rid of it less than a week later because the experience is less than perfect. I just don't get it.
    I'm with you on this one. People that are buying a device like this are the type that visit these forums, do their research and know what they are getting into. Information is so easily available and in abundance with the internet now that finding what this phone was all about, the state of Windows 10 for mobile is like and also the reviews that are coming, people can easily make a rational decision.

    Hence, if you don't like the phone, return it within 30 days and buy something that to you, is better. Just do your research and if the 950/950 XL is your dream phone, you should be willing to wait.
    11-30-2015 01:33 AM
  19. StevoPhilo's Avatar
    I currently have the 1520.3 and have been using wp10 on it since it was allowed on the 1520. I knew what I was getting into but the exact same problems that I had on my 1520 were also present on the 950xl while not present on a 635 I have as a test phone. Case and point, an OS shouldnt so pitifully efficient that I cant get more than 10 hours of battery life from a 3300mah battery.
    Have you tried limiting background tasks/etc. I seem to be getting decent battery life, but I know some aren't as fortunate as I am.
    11-30-2015 01:51 AM
  20. Brandon Keenan's Avatar
    Have you tried limiting background tasks/etc. I seem to be getting decent battery life, but I know some aren't as fortunate as I am.
    I have. I tried disabling certain apps to see if they were drawing more power than others but the biggest draw by far was the messaging+skype app. Sat right around 55% of the usage. I noticed that other people were having problems with it also on reddit and suggested disabling the skype which I did and that had no impact. Also disabled the sms syncing/backup hoping that would solve it. no cigar...

    It's just unfortunate because the hardware on paper is legit. Windows hello is quick enough to warrant using it thought maybe not as useful as a fingerprint reader because it has to be within a foot of your face. Has enough to be able to load everything straight from without any load times which when trying the various games I downloaded was usually the case, camera is on point and significantly better in low light with managing the noise than my 1520 and as well as processing the hdr photos from the app.
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    11-30-2015 02:02 AM
  21. cracgor's Avatar
    I'm with you on this one. People that are buying a device like this are the type that visit these forums, do their research and know what they are getting into. Information is so easily available and in abundance with the internet now that finding what this phone was all about, the state of Windows 10 for mobile is like and also the reviews that are coming, people can easily make a rational decision.

    Hence, if you don't like the phone, return it within 30 days and buy something that to you, is better. Just do your research and if the 950/950 XL is your dream phone, you should be willing to wait.
    There are no reviews of this phone when I bought it, just speculation. I did not have Windows 10 on my current phone. I assumed with a major release it might be a little more polished. Also, not everyone can wait...I actually need my phone for work... And I've been waiting for years. I'm not risking waiting for it to never happen and me to be stuck with a lies useful phone and out twice what the phone should be sold for.
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    11-30-2015 08:02 AM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    actually not making any money on it. selling it for retail. was going to return it but since its still on backorder and not shipping the next round until the 11th why not give someone else that wants it more than I do a shot at getting it before their order.
    Ah, okay. In a weird way, that is kind of you to do.
    hiya15 likes this.
    11-30-2015 08:37 AM
  23. Geo Hutchings's Avatar
    no phone is ever worth more than what you paid for it. unless its like limited edition with specs a year advance than everyone else. also if you upgrade every year then i say yes you are always paying too much for something you don't need.
    I got the Lumia 1020 for 130 it was worth it XD
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    11-30-2015 08:48 AM
  24. Sunstorming's Avatar
    I might be returning mine. The battery even after 5 days and 8 complete kill / charge cycles... it just drains so fast. IN standby its fine, but once you fire up that screen, its all over. 20% + per hour drain.(Fun game - go into the battery saver screen and look what uses the most power. My screen uses 65% - 80% of total power, without fail) I have turned off everything not critical as a background task. Add to the fact that mobile hotspot no longer works (yes, I called AT&T, make sure the IMEI was right, and then went as far to go into their store. Nothing is wrong on their end). I get my display dock today, and if that doesn't bowl me over, it's going back to the store. Much like the OP I have been waiting a while for this, and the kicker is there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 1520 it replaced. Nothing. Added fact: the 1520 got 24 - 32 hours of battery usage before it hit 15%. This one gets 10 hours....
    11-30-2015 09:30 AM
  25. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Apparently disabling hey cortana saves lots of battery. I keep my location off and I close apps in task switcher that I know take up a lot of battery. For me that's the photos app. I do have a lot of photos so possibly why it does. But If I keep it out of the task switcher my battery runs well. Even if I play games and other things.

    All the little quirks and issues are all software based. W10m seems to be wasteful in a lot of aspects. Take the Windows hello IR scan. It triggers every time you turn on the screen even if you don't have "require pin every time" set. So that there is a waste of battery. Small things like that. The fact that you have to have gps to enable things like quiet hours, waste of battery.
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    11-30-2015 09:51 AM
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