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  1. JerseySal's Avatar

    By the time the Surface Phone is released, Windows 10 Mobile should be FAR more polished,

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    01-14-2016 02:31 PM
  2. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I would wait until W10M is more mature before deciding on any phone. It's an unstable mess at the moment.
    01-14-2016 03:33 PM
  3. deezus's Avatar
    Dont buy a 950 anything. Wait or just keep your 640. There is no compelling reason, unless your a blind fanboy like me, to get it. Its too expensive, glitchy,OS is not ready. Thank me later for the good advice. And before you fanboys and haters start rolling in I got a question for you, give me one compelling reason (not just because its not apple or droid) to invest that kind of money on the 950 series?
    01-14-2016 04:07 PM
  4. deezus's Avatar
    Youre talking about the 950s camera right? That has not been my experience.....Camera takes fortever to "develop" pictures its a joke, quality is even at best with iPhone/galaxy series, and 4k is broken. Don't get me started on the awful herky jerky autofocus......
    01-14-2016 04:11 PM
  5. deezus's Avatar
    Most complaints about w10 stem from people running it on old hardware.
    I don't think so most complaints, like mine, come from people who have a 950, a supposedly "Flagship phone"....flagship phone, the 950/950xl....hahaha that's a good one....
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    01-14-2016 04:15 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    There is no guarantee that whatever MS pushes out carrying "Surface" branding will be any different than what you see now in the 950XL If you need a new phone now, then get the the 950 or 950XL. Both are good phones.
    01-14-2016 04:27 PM
  7. Axeelant's Avatar
    I have a lumia 920, and i was planning on getting the 950xl... but after seeing that it costs 636 with 2 years contract (Slovenia) i discovered that my 3 years old 920 runs win10 perfectly! ;) i'll probably wait for the next flagship, and hopefully it will be a lot nicer than 950... (xl is ok, i guess)
    Actually now it costs 24x24, which is 576, on simobil at least :) But we only have a single SIM option :)

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    01-14-2016 05:06 PM
  8. Krystianpants's Avatar
    One thing that is definitely silly is that Microsoft is selling the unlocked dual SIM 950 XL here in the US, where almost no one has any use for dual SIM, but the "international" version is single SIM. I do not understand how they came to the conclusion that this arrangement is better, especially given the current inability to use dual SIM devices with visual voicemail in the US.
    It's all part of their plan for their new data sim.
    01-14-2016 05:23 PM
  9. jcrod73's Avatar
    yes I do use my BT but not to my car radio for calls, here is my set up... I have my phone connected to my BT earpiece and I also have my phone connected to my car stereo via cassette adapter to stream my music from Spotify or slacker radio through my cassette player because my radio doesn't have an aux in... when I get a call, my music stream stops/pauses and transfers to my BT ear piece for the duration of the call, after my call and I hang up, the phone automatically switches back to my music SEAMLESSLY and without problems. also works when I get a txt message and Cortana reads me my message on my BT and then my music resumes... with no problems and no disconnection of my BT...
    Wait...What's a cassette player?? LOL...Your car has a cassette player still and you own a 950??
    01-14-2016 06:04 PM
  10. ahmad12's Avatar
    Stay with what you have if its doing the stuff you need, and wait. Either the surface phone comes out, and worthy or by then the 950XL goes down in price or find a used one, and pay less.
    Captpt likes this.
    01-14-2016 06:50 PM
  11. snakebitten's Avatar
    snip......There is no compelling reason, unless your a blind fanboy like me, to get it.........snip......... And before you fanboys and haters start rolling in I got a question for you, give me one compelling reason (not just because its not apple or droid) to invest that kind of money on the 950 series?
    You sure seem sure that NOBODY could benefit from having the best Windows phone to date. I'm ok if you don't agree, but just Continuum and Remote Desktop is compelling enough for me. I make my living on the fly, meaning I'm on the grid 24/7 and can be anywhere but a fully equipped office when duty calls. This very phone changes everything for me. Incredibly liberating. It's the ONLY phone in the world, currently, that can do some of the things it does. Are you kidding me? It's an IT assault weapon. :)
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    01-14-2016 07:27 PM
  12. jcrod73's Avatar
    Stay with what you have if its doing the stuff you need, and wait. Either the surface phone comes out, and worthy or by then the 950XL goes down in price or find a used one, and pay less.
    That is exactly why I'm going to pick up a 950XL. As someone pointed out what I had said in my original post, that I am not happy with my 640XL.

    I just want a F'n phone that works decent enough where it doesn't freeze up on me in front of others!! I had issues with the ICON and with the 640XL that I have now. Constant issues of soft resetting because of it freezing up, I have app icons that don't show the actual app icon just colored squares, typing slowness, apps that don't update correctly, and other issues that I can't remember right now. Yes, I have also done many hard resets as well. Sure, it's probably because of W10M but wtf?? I read all kinds of posts where people say everything works flawlessly on the same devices and someone will reply to this post saying the exact thing, but I'm not seeing it. I guess it's time to move on and try something else. I used to have every iPhone up until I switched from the iPhone 5s. Yes, iOS & Android OS may have bugs as well but you are comparing apples to oranges. Still with the bugs the phone still works good enough to not give you a brain aneurism!! I've come to the point of going back to a damn iPhone a few times but MS has some good potential with what they are doing, where they are going with W10M, and that is keeping me on a Windows Phone but jeeeez!! wtf!!
    Last edited by jcrod73; 01-14-2016 at 07:46 PM.
    01-14-2016 07:36 PM
  13. kakashiax's Avatar
    I really think that you have a defective phone xD I have the 640 (with 8.1) and it works excellent, so may be your 640 is defective or w10 is not ready.
    01-14-2016 07:42 PM
  14. ymcpa's Avatar
    Only suggestion is to get the single sim international version. Dual sim doesn't allow visual voicemail to work. Visual voicemail works great on the single sim version. Otherwise, I think it's an amazing phone that is just lacking app support. I did get the mazo case and the phone looks great with it.
    01-14-2016 07:54 PM
  15. nycny's Avatar
    Honestly, my family members all look at my phone with envy (for ui and camera mostly, some also love the sleek professional look of it). But due to the overwhelming amount of negativity I see about the 950s online, I've told them to look elsewhere for a phone. I know all too well that online PR and uninformed/loud voices with bad experiences can completely ruin someone's perception or enjoyment of something.

    But personally, I highly recommend it. All devices are going to have issues, regardless of what brand is on it. The worst of mine are that I have to restart Bluetooth occasionally and Hulu doesn't have a continuum enabled app, so i can't use it to cast to my Chromecast.

    But beyond that, the day to day experience with this phone is great. These are all 3rd party apps that I adore far more than the official versions on Android:

    Aeries (twitter)
    Readit (best reddit client feature-wise, better performance would make it perfect)
    PerfectTube (YouTube is ad free on windows mobile btw)
    Ouga (Tumblr)
    Unstreams (Twitch)

    Bookviser is also so much better for an epub reader/organizer than anything I've been able to find on competing platforms.

    As far as Microsofts own offerings go, Groove is best on Windows Mobile. The Android app is terrible, but Groove is Imo very good now. And nothing quite beats live tiles for calendar and email accounts.

    But the real winner here is the camera. I have so much fun with it. It does such a good job on the auto settings--completely effortless.

    Long nice read. It's good to keep it short, concise.
    Often impossible when you have a lot to say.
    Love Microsoft long time. Even my best friends get tied up with their bull****. Me too.
    Microsoft is acting like a best friend called out for bull****.
    Last edited by nycny; 01-14-2016 at 08:42 PM.
    01-14-2016 08:30 PM
  16. ericcoxtcu's Avatar
    I am very pleased with my 950xl. The latest W10m mobile builds work fine - I've had very few hiccups, though to be fair, I am mainly using it for work. The office apps are working great. The camera has been great (my wife with an iPhone 6 begrudgingly had me taking Christmas light pictures with my phone because they were so much better).

    As far as appearance, I actually think the phone looks fine. Most people use a case anyway; my wife bought me the Jack Spade one. I've had a number of complements / questions from people. More importantly, for such a big screen, the phone isn't that big and is pretty easy to handle.

    So if you like W10, go for it. I'm very pleased with the overall performance of the phone, more so than I was expecting, TBH.
    01-14-2016 10:11 PM
  17. mayconvert's Avatar
    Ok...I have a 640XL now. Not happy with it. So at this point should I buy a 950XL (it would be an unlocked one) or should I wait it out and see what becomes of these "Surface Phone" rumors??
    other than camera and a little faster processor, what will the 950XL bring to the table for you? you can put W10 on the 640 using insider prog.
    that cam and proc is worth $700+ extra ??
    Sorry. I LOVE Windows phone, but the 950XL costs WAY too much for a beta OS and a phone with no Good apps.
    01-14-2016 10:37 PM
  18. jcrod73's Avatar
    other than camera and a little faster processor, what will the 950XL bring to the table for you? you can put W10 on the 640 using insider prog.
    that cam and proc is worth $700+ extra ??
    Sorry. I LOVE Windows phone, but the 950XL costs WAY too much for a beta OS and a phone with no Good apps.
    I have mentioned in a few posts up that I have been using W10M...I've been on the insider program since day one...thanks for the tip...

    The 950XL may bring be some sanity...
    01-14-2016 11:40 PM
  19. djeire84's Avatar
    My advice wait until windows 10 mobile is officially released and make your decision then as XL ships currently with the insider preview build and folks have been having serious issues with it.
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    01-14-2016 11:43 PM
  20. Greg Wenzler's Avatar
    That is exactly why I'm going to pick up a 950XL. As someone pointed out what I had said in my original post, that I am not happy with my 640XL.

    I just want a F'n phone that works decent enough where it doesn't freeze up on me in front of others!! I had issues with the ICON and with the 640XL that I have now. Constant issues of soft resetting because of it freezing up, I have app icons that don't show the actual app icon just colored squares, typing slowness, apps that don't update correctly, and other issues that I can't remember right now. Yes, I have also done many hard resets as well. Sure, it's probably because of W10M but wtf?? I read all kinds of posts where people say everything works flawlessly on the same devices and someone will reply to this post saying the exact thing, but I'm not seeing it. I guess it's time to move on and try something else. I used to have every iPhone up until I switched from the iPhone 5s. Yes, iOS & Android OS may have bugs as well but you are comparing apples to oranges. Still with the bugs the phone still works good enough to not give you a brain aneurism!! I've come to the point of going back to a damn iPhone a few times but MS has some good potential with what they are doing, where they are going with W10M, and that is keeping me on a Windows Phone but jeeeez!! wtf!!
    Put 8.1 back on your 640XL, let a few months pass while W10 gets sorted out, then decide. 8.1 works fantastic on the 640XL.
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    01-14-2016 11:46 PM
  21. djeire84's Avatar
    Put 8.1 back on your 640XL, let a few months pass while W10 gets sorted out, then decide. 8.1 works fantastic on the 640XL.


    I agree totally with you. I have the 640 XL running windows 8.1 update 2 and omg its is so smooth, quick and battery life is insane!! Yes put 8.1 back on your phone and just wait for wp10.
    01-14-2016 11:49 PM
  22. jcrod73's Avatar
    Put 8.1 back on your 640XL, let a few months pass while W10 gets sorted out, then decide. 8.1 works fantastic on the 640XL.
    I agree totally with you. I have the 640 XL running windows 8.1 update 2 and omg its is so smooth, quick and battery life is insane!! Yes put 8.1 back on your phone and just wait for wp10.
    OK what am I waiting for?? This version of W10 is what will be pushed out to your phones. Maybe a slight different version update but all in all I should be running with no issues now.
    01-15-2016 12:14 AM
  23. Greg Wenzler's Avatar
    OK what am I waiting for?? This version of W10 is what will be pushed out to your phones. Maybe a slight different version update but all in all I should be running with no issues now.
    An update a few months down the road that addresses the issues you have. I had a bunch of them too and reverted back. Then they pushed back to first quarter of 2016 and I bailed and went Android. For now.

    I look at it this way...if you are deciding between the 950XL or a Surface Phone, I wouldn't wait for the Surface. Based on MS history, it could be a year and a half down the pipeline. I think the 640XL is very solid running 8.1. I'd let a couple months pass and see if MS can quickly address the issues some are facing with W10. Might see a price drop after a couple months. Unless you have some dough burning a hole in your pocket and want a new toy :)
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    01-15-2016 01:19 AM
  24. Chris_Milan_Gib's Avatar
    I had a 930 for the last year and a half. Great phone, even survived falling from my pocket when riding my moped at 40 km/h. Glad the aluminium frame was there to take the knock. Took the dive and got the 950XL just after Christmas and have to say extremely pleased with it. Not once have I had a reboot or the resuming hang screen. I guess everyone has a different experience but so far my has been great and am absolutely loving it.
    01-15-2016 03:22 AM
  25. Grodelj's Avatar
    Actually now it costs 24x24€, which is 576€, on simobil at least :) But we only have a single SIM option :)

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    You can order it from Italy for 589€ without contract: MICROSOFT LUMIA 950 XL BLACK GARANZIA ITALIA - vikishop.it

    lp iz Lj:)
    01-15-2016 05:16 AM
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