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  1. Player Piano's Avatar
    I love my Lumia 950. Even though it randomly rebooted for some reason last night for whatever reason I don't know lol.
    I've had a couple random reboots recently on my 950 too. It's been many months since the last time it happened I thought the problem had been sorted out. Am still liking the phone very much regardless.
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    11-25-2016 08:51 PM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    I've had a couple random reboots recently on my 950 too. It's been many months since the last time it happened I thought the problem had been sorted out. Am still liking the phone very much regardless.
    Haven't seen you around lately :D good to know you're still going strong
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    11-25-2016 09:19 PM
  3. mweflen's Avatar
    https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/wind...mia-950-review

    Reading Thurott's 950 review, it doesn't sound half bad. "It takes FANTASTIC pictures..." "Complaints about the devices specifications are ludicrous... the Lumia 950 is absolutely a flagship-class device."

    My take is, if you're already a Windows fan, it's a great buy at $300 or less. It blows away every other Lumia on balance (the 1020 camera is better). It also beats most other $300 phones spec-wise. But given the "app gap," it probably won't convert anyone who is already in one of the other camps. The Galaxy S7 and the Pixel seem to take comparable photos (iPhone not so much).
    11-25-2016 10:37 PM
  4. Player Piano's Avatar
    Haven't seen you around lately :D good to know you're still going strong
    It got a little bit too doom & gloom around here for me to come around much. I am not going anywhere until I hear an announcement of either the launch or cancellation of the Surface Phone. The L950 is still going strong and I now have an iPhone as a backup just in case.
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    11-26-2016 11:29 AM
  5. Player Piano's Avatar
    Honestly man.. I like the guy, but his hatred for anything related to WM has become a bit unreasonable/frustrating and comedic lol

    He honestly reminds me of every man/woman who had their hearts broken and suddenly decided it's ok to think that every other man/woman in the world will ultimately end up breaking their hearts so it's best not to try at all.

    Man, I think I went overboard with my analogy xd
    I think this analogy is spot on.
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    11-26-2016 11:31 AM
  6. speccy's Avatar
    If I didn't already have a 950, it would be the phone I would go out and buy (or possibly a 950XL). There's nothing else out there that I would consider at the moment. Any other device would be a compromise in some way, crappier OS, poorer camera etc. The Idol4s looks nice, but it'd be a step down in the camera department, so that's a no-go for me.
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    11-26-2016 11:34 AM
  7. Player Piano's Avatar
    If I didn't already have a 950, it would be the phone I would go out and buy (or possibly a 950XL). There's nothing else out there that I would consider at the moment. Any other device would be a compromise in some way, crappier OS, poorer camera etc. The Idol4s looks nice, but it'd be a step down in the camera department, so that's a no-go for me.
    I am with you 100%. While the back cover has much to be desired, some slight modifications to the stock battery cover and all the creaking is gone.
    Last edited by Player Piano; 11-26-2016 at 05:12 PM.
    11-26-2016 11:42 AM
  8. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    The times I've played with a Lumia 950 (mine has yet to arrive) it didn't feel low quality at all. I actually like the feel of polycarbonate. And I feel my 640 XL is really nicely built.
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    11-26-2016 04:06 PM
  9. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    People seem to think polycarbonate means cheap. It doesn't.
    11-26-2016 04:06 PM
  10. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    Again I'm going to go the route of being a bit pragmatic about the whole thing: I'm willing to bet $100 that most people who would complain about the looks of the back of the 950 are people who would put the phone in a protective case anyway, meaning nobody would ever see the nicer back even if it had one. It's just a silly argument for most of people.

    "Creaking"? I don't hear it on mine.
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    11-26-2016 04:57 PM
  11. Player Piano's Avatar
    Again I'm going to go the route of being a bit pragmatic about the whole thing: I'm willing to bet $100 that most people who would complain about the looks of the back of the 950 are people who would put the phone in a protective case anyway, meaning nobody would ever see the nicer back even if it had one. It's just a silly argument for most of people.

    "Creaking"? I don't hear it on mine.
    I am fine with the look and build of the back cover. My 950 creaked like mad. Maybe you haven't had the phone long enough because mine didn't creak initially.
    11-26-2016 05:10 PM
  12. barotropic's Avatar
    And a removable back / replaceable battery are usually the upside of a polycarbonate design. Many people don't understand that a battery will eventually be less efficient - won't take or hold a charge as well as a new one - so if I want to continue using my Lumia, in another couple of years I'll drop in a new battery.

    And, 90% of us put a protective case on our premium phones to protect our hard-earned investments! Why should plastic vs metal matter to us? (the other 10% are those who brag about loving the feel of their "au naturale" new phone in their hand, then post a photo of a shattered screen within 6 months!)

    Btw, my Nexus 5x is plastic but sealed. So I can't replace the battery not add a micro SD card!

    People seem to think polycarbonate means cheap. It doesn't.

    Sent from mTalk
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    11-26-2016 05:42 PM
  13. TgeekB's Avatar
    Again I'm going to go the route of being a bit pragmatic about the whole thing: I'm willing to bet $100 that most people who would complain about the looks of the back of the 950 are people who would put the phone in a protective case anyway, meaning nobody would ever see the nicer back even if it had one. It's just a silly argument for most of people.

    "Creaking"? I don't hear it on mine.
    I never noticed creaking with mine but did buy a Mozo cover for the looks.

    Sent from mTalk
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    11-26-2016 07:09 PM
  14. Byrese's Avatar
    Well I just bought one. Coming in a few days so well how it goes.
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    11-26-2016 07:48 PM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    Well I just bought one. Coming in a few days so well how it goes.
    Congrats! Let us know how that goes for you.
    11-26-2016 07:58 PM
  16. CraigCole's Avatar
    This quote from the article is typical: "my advice remains unchanged: None of these phones will provide a satisfying smartphone experience in late 2016 or have any meaningful longevity. The Lumia 950 and 950 XL, in particular, are lackluster smartphones and should be avoided."
    Sorry, but I agree with Paul on this point, 100 percent. I wish it weren't the case, but if I'm being completely honest, the 950/XL and W10M are a collective disaster. In my opinion, the software isn't ready for primetime today, much less when it launched A YEAR AGO.

    For me, the overall "smartphone experience" provided by my 950 is a completely atrocious. I just want a device that works, not something I have to constantly diagnose or find workarounds to common tasks. Frankly, I'm fed up with the BS, sick and tired of ENDLESS problems and annoying glitches. Here are a few reasons why I feel this way:

    • Cheap-feeling hardware -- Pick up one of these Lumias and then handle an iPhone of nearly any stripe and tell me which one feels better... It's no contest.
    • Slow performance -- My Lumia takes forever to boot up, launch apps or, especially, to process photos. An old iPhone 6 runs circles around it.
    • ZERO meaningful apps -- This one goes without saying...
    • Poor app quality (of the scarce handful that are available) -- The Delta airlines app is useless, my credit-card company doesn't support wallet, etc., etc.
    • Lackluster battery life -- It's almost always warm to the touch for no reason, chewing through battery and my data plan while doing absolutely nothing useful. Yes, I've gone in and tweaked various background tasks, but this made no difference.
    • CONSTANT glitches -- Why can't I smoothly zoom in on a photo without it getting stuck? No, I have to wait at least five seconds for the phone to decide if it wants to allow that. Why did the camera's autofocus on-screen popup randomly disappear today, necessitating a restart? How come the copy-and-paste interface is inconsistent? Why does Edge randomly NOT load pages? With a SIX-CORE PROCESSOR and THREE GIGS of ram, why do photos take sooooo long to finish processing?

    Remind me again how these Lumia devices are better than an iPhone or Android handset, because I fail to see how they are... in any meaningful way. To the OP's question, I HATE this device and would never, Ever, EVER buy another one; I wouldn't take one if it were free, that's how disgruntled I am about all this.
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    11-26-2016 10:42 PM
  17. editguy's Avatar
    And a removable back / replaceable battery are usually the upside of a polycarbonate design. Many people don't understand that a battery will eventually be less efficient - won't take or hold a charge as well as a new one - so if I want to continue using my Lumia, in another couple of years I'll drop in a new battery.




    Sent from mTalk
    In fairness, though, my L925 is about 3 and a half years old and the battery is still sufficient. In reality, most people are replacing phones on a two year basis so battery isn't likely to be an issue. That said, I like the option to replace the battery
    11-26-2016 11:36 PM
  18. Byrese's Avatar
    Congrats! Let us know how that goes for you.
    Thanks... Almost got a 930 but the no LTE is a problem. I think it's design is better. Oh well
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    11-27-2016 12:47 AM
  19. sidtek50's Avatar
    Sorry, but I agree with Paul on this point, 100 percent. I wish it weren't the case, but if I'm being completely honest, the 950/XL and W10M are a collective disaster. In my opinion, the software isn't ready for primetime today, much less when it launched A YEAR AGO.

    For me, the overall "smartphone experience" provided by my 950 is a completely atrocious. I just want a device that works, not something I have to constantly diagnose or find workarounds to common tasks. Frankly, I'm fed up with the BS, sick and tired of ENDLESS problems and annoying glitches. Here are a few reasons why I feel this way:

    • Cheap-feeling hardware -- Pick up one of these Lumias and then handle an iPhone of nearly any stripe and tell me which one feels better... It's no contest.
    • Slow performance -- My Lumia takes forever to boot up, launch apps or, especially, to process photos. An old iPhone 6 runs circles around it.
    • ZERO meaningful apps -- This one goes without saying...
    • Poor app quality (of the scarce handful that are available) -- The Delta airlines app is useless, my credit-card company doesn't support wallet, etc., etc.
    • Lackluster battery life -- It's almost always warm to the touch for no reason, chewing through battery and my data plan while doing absolutely nothing useful. Yes, I've gone in and tweaked various background tasks, but this made no difference.
    • CONSTANT glitches -- Why can't I smoothly zoom in on a photo without it getting stuck? No, I have to wait at least five seconds for the phone to decide if it wants to allow that. Why did the camera's autofocus on-screen popup randomly disappear today, necessitating a restart? How come the copy-and-paste interface is inconsistent? Why does Edge randomly NOT load pages? With a SIX-CORE PROCESSOR and THREE GIGS of ram, why do photos take sooooo long to finish processing?

    Remind me again how these Lumia devices are better than an iPhone or Android handset, because I fail to see how they are... in any meaningful way. To the OP's question, I HATE this device and would never, Ever, EVER buy another one; I wouldn't take one if it were free, that's how disgruntled I am about all this.
    I feel EXACTLY the same as you. However, the only things that keep me on my 950 are: Removable battery, fantastic camera and expandable storage. I know if I went over to iOS i'd have to put up with iTunes which is the worst application in the world... Plus I would be resigned to the 32gb model due to cost restrictions. That is currently how I feel about my 950.
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    11-27-2016 04:13 AM
  20. TgeekB's Avatar
    My 950 has become my daily driver. I admit, I'm not a big app user and have not come across a situation where I needed something I couldn't find. Look and feel is very good. Battery life easily gets me through the day. Love the live tiles. It does what I need a mobile device to do and the price was excellent. I think I'm set until the end of 2017 and we'll see what they have up their sleeves then.
    11-27-2016 07:18 AM
  21. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    Sorry, but I agree with Paul on this point, 100 percent.
    Then you're wrong. It's not just opinion, but fact. He writes "anged: None of these phones will provide a satisfying smartphone experience in late 2016", yet the fact that it actually does for a lot of us proves him wrong. One of the many ways people these days are confusing fact with opinion. It's like we're in the linguistic dark ages of reasoning.

    if I'm being completely honest, the 950/XL and W10M are a collective disaster. In my opinion, the software isn't ready for primetime today, much less when it launched A YEAR AGO.

    For me, the overall "smartphone experience" provided by my 950 is a completely atrocious.
    "disaster" and "atrocious" are pretty strong words to use. As far as I can see, if that's where it's at it can't get any worse really. So if that's the case, and if I were you, I wouldn't even bother hanging on to the phone at all and just get a new one, which I assume you've already done. My personal experience has been net positive, and any issues I've had so far aren't big enough to warrant the words "disaster" or "atrocious".

    "Disaster": Possibly I'd use it to characterize a software/hardware glitch in a financial institution's hardware resulting in the loss of accounts and data, irreversibly irretrievable. More likely is I'd use it to describe an earthquake with a subsequent tsunami killing thousands.

    "Atrocious": Yahoo's security leading to the intrusion into half a billion accounts.

    The 950? Not so much 'disaster and atrociousness'.

    • Cheap-feeling hardware -- Pick up one of these Lumias and then handle an iPhone of nearly any stripe and tell me which one feels better... It's no contest. - Except if you put your iPhone into a nice protective case in which case you can't feel how great your iPhone feels. So, again, how many people do that? Next time it's up for conversation at a social event we should all have people put their phones on the table and try to feel the hardware of each other (how's that for a euphemism!?). My hunch is most people cover up their beautiful hardware so it's a completely irrelevant issue in real life.
    • Slow performance -- My Lumia takes forever to boot up, launch apps or, especially, to process photos. An old iPhone 6 runs circles around it. - That sucks. For me, a slow boot doesn't bother me. My previous Android (G2X) took longer to boot. Launching apps is fast enough. It seems to take anywhere from 1.5-2.5 seconds for my usual suspects, Edge into a clean page, Outlook Mail and Calendar, Weather etc, and closer to 7 seconds for apps that load data from the cloud when launched, eg Garmin Connect etc. If an iPhone launches my bread-and-butter apps faster than 2.5 seconds then I suppose it's literally faster, but I just don't care about saving that small an amount of time. I'll just pick my nose during that one second. Not long enough to get messy, just to reconfigure the contents inside the nose a bit.
    • ZERO meaningful apps -- This one goes without saying... - It's obviously entirely personal. I mentioned it before, but I'll mention it again:

      - Outlook Mail
      - Outlook Calendar
      - Weather
      - Browser
      - News apps
      - Bank Of America app
      - Wallet
      - OneDrive
      - Groove Music
      - Wikipedia
      etc

    • Poor app quality (of the scarce handful that are available) -- The Delta airlines app is useless, my credit-card company doesn't support wallet, etc., etc. - Like I said, it's ultimately personal. Sorry to hear you don't find apps you want and the ones you get don't work. For me, most seem to work quite well. But I will concede that perhaps there's on average a gap in quality.
    • Lackluster battery life -- It's almost always warm to the touch for no reason, chewing through battery and my data plan while doing absolutely nothing useful. Yes, I've gone in and tweaked various background tasks, but this made no difference. - I get enough battery life out of mine. Perhaps if my usage patterns changed.
    • CONSTANT glitches -- Why can't I smoothly zoom in on a photo without it getting stuck? No, I have to wait at least five seconds for the phone to decide if it wants to allow that. Why did the camera's autofocus on-screen popup randomly disappear today, necessitating a restart? How come the copy-and-paste interface is inconsistent? Why does Edge randomly NOT load pages? With a SIX-CORE PROCESSOR and THREE GIGS of ram, why do photos take sooooo long to finish processing? - I agree that it's annoying to have glitches. My previous G2X got to the point where it was close to unusable. And I mean that literally. And I'm using the word "literally" to literally mean "literally", as opposed to "figuratively". So it's all relative. Leading me to the following point:
    Remind me again how these Lumia devices are better than an iPhone or Android handset, because I fail to see how they are... in any meaningful way.
    "Better" is a somewhat subjective word. If you want to get an absolute and objective answer to it you'll need to identify exactly which parameters are relevant and then see what they are. I have friends on iPhones that are older than my 950, and my 950 have some specs that are better. I haven't tallied them all up to see what the net outcome is because to me it's not really that important. What I can say though for sure is that there are some features about the 950 and W10M that are appealing to me, and a few things that are unappealing to the iPhone/iOS:

    - Price. It's a significant difference. If you can't spend X dollars you can't spend X dollars and have to buy something else.
    - Bang-for-buck. I'd argue it's objectively true you get more for your money with the 950.
    - User interface: I simply prefer W10M over both Android and iOS. Live tiles are great.
    - Connectivity: I can shove a USB-3 connector into my phone and it pops up as folders on my PC. I use my PC for work, so it's super convenient to be able to drag/drop files as I see fit. I plugged my $1,500 headphone amplifier's USB cable into the dock just to see what would happen, and behold; the 950 automatically output a digital stream of audio to the amp. Let's see that with an iPhone (Oh, wait, does it even connect with cables any more?). I can also just plop drives into the dock and they are browsable on my phone, be they hard drives, solid state drives or usb drives. If I'm not mistaken there's a fair amount of drives that will also mount when directly connected to the phone itself.
    - Continuum. Yeah, I admit, I haven't tried it, but I will and my guess is I'll like it. But sure, I might not.
    - OneDrive. I just like it.
    - Groove Music. Last time I checked it compensated the holders of the rights to the music much better than Spotify. I'm in favor of supporting artists so they can make a living off of their craft. I'll again admit ignorance as to how iTunes or the streaming service compensates, but as I said, I came from Android, so...
    - Great camera.
    - Iris sensor. I like it. I don't have to worry about people peeking over my shoulder on the subway to see what pin I punch in before they steal my phone. Not that I worry about that all that much anyway, but still.

    There's probably more, but my bet is I've written too long a post already, so, time to wrap it up most likely.,...

    To the OP's question, I HATE this device and would never, Ever, EVER buy another one; I wouldn't take one if it were free, that's how disgruntled I am about all this.
    I feel your pain. I do think however that your experience doesn't necessarily transfer over to other people as neatly as you imply. Your recommendation is for people to never buy a 950, and mine is for them to try it. We clearly differ on that.
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    11-27-2016 10:21 AM
  22. KefKef's Avatar
    For me, the overall "smartphone experience" provided by my 950 is a completely atrocious. I just want a device that works, not something I have to constantly diagnose or find workarounds to common tasks. Frankly, I'm fed up with the BS, sick and tired of ENDLESS problems and annoying glitches. Here are a few reasons why I feel this way:

    • Slow performance -- My Lumia takes forever to boot up, launch apps or, especially, to process photos. An old iPhone 6 runs circles around it.
    • Lackluster battery life -- It's almost always warm to the touch for no reason, chewing through battery and my data plan while doing absolutely nothing useful. Yes, I've gone in and tweaked various background tasks, but this made no difference.
    • CONSTANT glitches -- Why can't I smoothly zoom in on a photo without it getting stuck? No, I have to wait at least five seconds for the phone to decide if it wants to allow that. Why did the camera's autofocus on-screen popup randomly disappear today, necessitating a restart? How come the copy-and-paste interface is inconsistent? Why does Edge randomly NOT load pages? With a SIX-CORE PROCESSOR and THREE GIGS of ram, why do photos take sooooo long to finish processing?
    It seems to me that you have a foulty device. Mine has none of listed problems and if I had one like yours, I'd send it to repair shop...
    11-27-2016 11:41 AM
  23. libra89's Avatar
    It seems to me that you have a foulty device. Mine has none of listed problems and if I had one like yours, I'd send it to repair shop...
    I believe he had has his own replaced before.
    11-27-2016 11:52 AM
  24. TgeekB's Avatar
    Then you're wrong. It's not just opinion, but fact. He writes "anged: None of these phones will provide a satisfying smartphone experience in late 2016", yet the fact that it actually does for a lot of us proves him wrong. One of the many ways people these days are confusing fact with opinion. It's like we're in the linguistic dark ages of reasoning.



    "disaster" and "atrocious" are pretty strong words to use. As far as I can see, if that's where it's at it can't get any worse really. So if that's the case, and if I were you, I wouldn't even bother hanging on to the phone at all and just get a new one, which I assume you've already done. My personal experience has been net positive, and any issues I've had so far aren't big enough to warrant the words "disaster" or "atrocious".

    "Disaster": Possibly I'd use it to characterize a software/hardware glitch in a financial institution's hardware resulting in the loss of accounts and data, irreversibly irretrievable. More likely is I'd use it to describe an earthquake with a subsequent tsunami killing thousands.

    "Atrocious": Yahoo's security leading to the intrusion into half a billion accounts.

    The 950? Not so much 'disaster and atrociousness'.





    "Better" is a somewhat subjective word. If you want to get an absolute and objective answer to it you'll need to identify exactly which parameters are relevant and then see what they are. I have friends on iPhones that are older than my 950, and my 950 have some specs that are better. I haven't tallied them all up to see what the net outcome is because to me it's not really that important. What I can say though for sure is that there are some features about the 950 and W10M that are appealing to me, and a few things that are unappealing to the iPhone/iOS:

    - Price. It's a significant difference. If you can't spend X dollars you can't spend X dollars and have to buy something else.
    - Bang-for-buck. I'd argue it's objectively true you get more for your money with the 950.
    - User interface: I simply prefer W10M over both Android and iOS. Live tiles are great.
    - Connectivity: I can shove a USB-3 connector into my phone and it pops up as folders on my PC. I use my PC for work, so it's super convenient to be able to drag/drop files as I see fit. I plugged my $1,500 headphone amplifier's USB cable into the dock just to see what would happen, and behold; the 950 automatically output a digital stream of audio to the amp. Let's see that with an iPhone (Oh, wait, does it even connect with cables any more?). I can also just plop drives into the dock and they are browsable on my phone, be they hard drives, solid state drives or usb drives. If I'm not mistaken there's a fair amount of drives that will also mount when directly connected to the phone itself.
    - Continuum. Yeah, I admit, I haven't tried it, but I will and my guess is I'll like it. But sure, I might not.
    - OneDrive. I just like it.
    - Groove Music. Last time I checked it compensated the holders of the rights to the music much better than Spotify. I'm in favor of supporting artists so they can make a living off of their craft. I'll again admit ignorance as to how iTunes or the streaming service compensates, but as I said, I came from Android, so...
    - Great camera.
    - Iris sensor. I like it. I don't have to worry about people peeking over my shoulder on the subway to see what pin I punch in before they steal my phone. Not that I worry about that all that much anyway, but still.

    There's probably more, but my bet is I've written too long a post already, so, time to wrap it up most likely.,...



    I feel your pain. I do think however that your experience doesn't necessarily transfer over to other people as neatly as you imply. Your recommendation is for people to never buy a 950, and mine is for them to try it. We clearly differ on that.
    Well said. Couldn't agree more.
    We all have different needs and wants so its difficult, or wrong, to make blanket statements about a device. I, personally, am done buying into the hype that I need this or that. For what I really need, based on my analysis, my 950 performs quite well.

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    11-27-2016 11:52 AM
  25. Jack Neill's Avatar
    I wanted to like the 950. I just gave up on it tho a few months ago. It was always bugging out, battery life was sub-par, apps were always crashing. Using the FB app is like running Vista on a Pentium 2 and when I needed the camera the most on a fish trip i had planned for months, a lot of the photos did not turn out as good as my iPhone 6's.

    I moved back to iOS and haven't looked back, I can send SMS from my iPad and Mac and macOS 12.1 is great. Apps work like they're supposed to. A LOT less headache.

    Sad too, because I was all in the WP dream. I owed most of the lumias. I have W10 on all my PC's. I have years worth of GS on Xbox. But I had to leave mobile behind.
    11-27-2016 06:10 PM
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