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  1. Gaiking's Avatar
    Good riddence Android. After a week with the Lumia 900 I love it. I can do everything I could do before with clunky Android and even MORE clunky iOS.

    I'm keeping the Lumia 900 absolutely.
    04-15-2012 11:33 PM
  2. nokia4life's Avatar
    I never expect cell phone cameras to be beast. I don't know what the idea is.

    Anyway, I'm keeping the phone. This is the best smartphone I've ever had. I'm glad to carry a Windows Phone.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    i think we are all glad to carry windows phone. I love the phone , i love the OS other wise this wouldn't have been my 3rd wp. glad that you answered my question dude.
    04-15-2012 11:44 PM
  3. fogel35's Avatar
    Keeping it. I am not good at taking photos and hardly have perfect vision but I think the camera is more than acceptable. Had to use the digital zoom to get close enough to the damn bird without it flying away.

    04-15-2012 11:46 PM
  4. nokia4life's Avatar
    I bought a htc one x and sold it in 2 days. I seriously think that android has become the Windows ME of the cellphone world. I understand that it does everything, but does non of them good. Its WP7 for me and if that fails IOS.
    i agree with you on the android deal OS we are windows phone and by the way things look the platform should really start to take off with the strong sales of the lumia 900 and titan II...
    04-15-2012 11:48 PM
  5. nokia4life's Avatar
    I think ninjaap has hit it on the head. It seems the reality is that the pictures the 900 takes are fine for 95% of the people who own the phone and they can't see the issue (myself included) but the other 5% expect much more than the average user from a phone camera and are disappointed.
    agree to a point i think your numbers are switched around its more like 95% are not fine and only 5% seem to have a perfect 8meg camera that competes with the other flagship phones 8meg shooters. Notice that i did not say competes with real camera's just don't want to get people confused so that whole SLR or DSLR doesn't come up again. the phone is awesome outside of that.
    04-15-2012 11:51 PM
  6. dkp23's Avatar
    yes im keeping and u make it sound that this phone is the only phone with glitches and issues.
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    04-15-2012 11:59 PM
  7. nokia4life's Avatar
    yes im keeping and u make it sound that this phone is the only phone with glitches and issues.
    i can see how you would think that since this is a lumia 900 thread and it is the phone that i own yeah i can see how you would think that because that is what the thread is about that is what this lumia 900 forum is for. i you go into other forums not gonna list them but i have lets see sold and totally dissed my galaxy nexus, iphone 4s and 4, all 3 sold on ebay and gazelle, htc inspire 4g, and my htc surround. go to those forums and i will be on there talking about the positives that i had and faults. can i ask you something did i commit a crime because i said i like the phone except for the camera?
    04-16-2012 12:18 AM
  8. jimski's Avatar
    I am proud to be a Nokia Lumia 900 owner, and expect to be for the foreseeable future. Would (and have) recommend the phone to anyone. Camera is well within my expectations. At least as good as my Surround. No issues, no complaints.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
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    04-16-2012 12:19 AM
  9. Duvi's Avatar
    Right, but this a flagship device and should show off the power of what Nokia can create. The camera should be the 12 mp in their N8, there shouldn't be fingerprints on the display, the display shouldn't be flat, and there should be 32 GB of memory. People will pay the extra 100$ for a device they will have to keep for 2 years if it is as good as it gets.
    People will not pay $100 more. I've been in the cellphone business for a while; in to cellphones since I was a pre-teen and the price point makes a difference. You and I may pay for it, but others wouldn't. The extra $100 off made me jump and go buy it. I would have purchased it no matter what, but definitely put the pep in my step.
    04-16-2012 12:41 AM
  10. Duvi's Avatar
    I'm keeping mine. I have yet to take a picture with mine yet, nor will it sway my decision, regardless of how good/bad they come out.

    Free = best phone on the market at that price point! I can't even get an Android device for $99 that is as good as the Nokia. It's $299 (an extra $100 for LTE). Nokia did something no one else is doing... lowered the price of by $200 less than the other LTE devices (not including the Titan II).
    04-16-2012 12:56 AM
  11. Mengels7's Avatar
    dude you are unbelievable first off no one is *****ing but you. You act like you are the designer of this device. I simply said i was unhappy with the camera and nokia for not even addressing it. the advertising beta testing stuff yeah they talk about the pictures yet it doesn't produce. I like the phone for other reasons and again since you cant seem to understand i never said i was returning or that i wanted to.
    I plan on keeping mine. Every time I have a "holy crap this phone blows" moment it's followed by a "huh that's kinda nifty" moment. Supporting the underdog unpolished Microsoft product has those moments.

    Watch out, not ever having switched from iOS (except the week where the Motorola Droid came out) I never had to criticize another OS or ask for advice or anything on it. A lot of the people are are pretty objective but there are some that rival some of the worst iOS/Android fanboys I've seen. Don't say anything negative about WP7 or you will get your head chewed off by someone who is convinced it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    And to add to the topic, yeah the camera is disappointing. After using an iPhone 4S camera I am sad my brand new flagship phone is basically only comparable to my almost two-year-old iPhone 4. :(
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    04-16-2012 12:59 AM
  12. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    I've been preaching Android since 11-5-2009 when I got my OG Motorola Droid. I'm now typing this on my Lumia 900. I absolutely will be keeping mine past 30. You'll have to pry the phone out of my dead hands before I give it up. I'm a convert.
    04-16-2012 01:50 AM
  13. KingCrimson's Avatar
    Sorry but any iPhone i've seen attracts fingerprints like a magnet, it's ridiculous.
    04-16-2012 01:54 AM
  14. elvisff's Avatar
    I plan on keeping mine. Every time I have a "holy crap this phone blows" moment it's followed by a "huh that's kinda nifty" moment. Supporting the underdog unpolished Microsoft product has those moments.

    Watch out, not ever having switched from iOS (except the week where the Motorola Droid came out) I never had to criticize another OS or ask for advice or anything on it. A lot of the people are are pretty objective but there are some that rival some of the worst iOS/Android fanboys I've seen. Don't say anything negative about WP7 or you will get your head chewed off by someone who is convinced it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    And to add to the topic, yeah the camera is disappointing. After using an iPhone 4S camera I am sad my brand new flagship phone is basically only comparable to my almost two-year-old iPhone 4. :(
    Wouldn't this be a bit of a compliment, considering that the Iphone 4 and 4s are considered some of the best camera phones on the market?

    I have yet to have any type of camera phone truely take great low light pictures. My biggest issues with the camera revolve around it having a hard time focusing on close objects instead of the objects in the background. Something that I feel will probably be addressed in a firmware.

    My biggest issue with the device is that it keeps killing my wifi bandwidth for some random reason. This might be the one thing that sends me down to AT&T to try an exchange.
    04-16-2012 04:41 AM
  15. Seketh's Avatar
    My biggest issue with the device is that it keeps killing my wifi bandwidth for some random reason. This might be the one thing that sends me down to AT&T to try an exchange.
    Killing your Wi-Fi bandwith? That's weird, could be an issue with your router.


    Watch out, not ever having switched from iOS (except the week where the Motorola Droid came out) I never had to criticize another OS or ask for advice or anything on it. A lot of the people are are pretty objective but there are some that rival some of the worst iOS/Android fanboys I've seen. Don't say anything negative about WP7 or you will get your head chewed off by someone who is convinced it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
    I hate fanboys, whatever the OS they support. All conversations end up in irrational rage.

    If you guys spot a WP7 fanboy around here, tell him to take it down a notch, I hate seeing that stuff around here.
    04-16-2012 06:36 AM
  16. PhilR8's Avatar
    Killing your Wi-Fi bandwith? That's weird, could be an issue with your router.



    I hate fanboys, whatever the OS they support. All conversations end up in irrational rage.

    If you guys spot a WP7 fanboy around here, tell him to take it down a notch, I hate seeing that stuff around here.
    Check out very thread. JD914 ironically complaining about "trolls" and then he disparages anyone who dares to criticize this device. I really don't understand the blind fanboy devotion to a platform that blinds people to the inadequacies and missteps that are currently present both in the platform in the device. There is certainly much to criticize.

    But there's a lot to love as well - enough to more than make up for the glaring shortcomings present in WP and the 900. I'm not new to Windows Phone - I had the Arrive on Sprint for the past year - so I've learned to live with certain aspects of Windows Phone that I find annoying or frustrating. I will say that the 900 mitigates many of the issues that had plagued my Arrive: poor app performance when scrolling was a daily chore on my Arrive and on the 900 these problems are mostly gone. The OS is much faster and smoother in general, which I really am finding refreshing. Build quality is another big win for the 900, and so is the quality of the screen. I was really impressed that Nokia pushed out the update three days early - I'm really optimistic about future updates. As someone who experienced the 3G/4G/LTE data bug twice last week (and had to search the forums each time in order to apply temporary fixes), I was really started to get discouraged. Thankfully, Nokia pushed the update in a very satisfactory timeframe and kicked in $100 to boot. I'm more than satisfied with their response

    And the data speeds - wow. Coming from Sprint, I had no idea what I was missing. HSPA+ is very fast. Speed test indicated 4Mbps on HSPA+ where my Arrive would get 200Kbps. The difference is unreal. And LTE - this thing flies on LTE. Load times are non-existent. Map tiles load instantly. Web pages load very quickly. App content populates almost instantly.

    It's too bad that things aren't the same when I'm on WiFi, though. WiFi was never an issue on my Arrive but I'm finding it to be very flaky on my 900. Random 10-15 second pauses when content should be loading (content that loads almost instantly on LTE). The WiFi icon will sometimes indicate strong signal but content will not load. Cycling WiFi off/on usually fixes this problem, but it's been happening way too often for me to continue to overlook it. It's continued to happen post-update as well.

    And as others have said, the camera is really disappointing. Obviously I knew that going in, since I read all the reviews and saw the sample camera shots, but it's something that really cannot be overstated. For Nokia to pimp this camera in commercials and marketing campaigns is ridiculous. My friend and I took side-by-side shots in several different lighting conditions, me on my 900 and him on his iPhone 4S and it wasn't even close. The 4S by a million miles.

    But like I said, what I love about the 900 overshadows what irritates me about the 900 and I'm going to keep it. I'm optimistic that Nokia will release updates to address the shortcomings, and I'll learn to live with what isn't fixed. I already adjusted my life to revolve around the capabilities (and lack of them) in the Windows Phone ecosystem when I switched from Android to the Arrive in March 2011, so there wasn't any culture shock with the Lumia 900. But I certainly can understand those who return the 900 and go back to their iPhones and Android devices - at least for now, anyway.
    Last edited by PhilR8; 04-16-2012 at 11:02 AM.
    04-16-2012 08:39 AM
  17. nokia4life's Avatar
    I totally agree with above well said good view I love the phone and I hope they push a firmware fix for it.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    04-16-2012 08:54 AM
  18. cj-m's Avatar
    What's this orange spot in the middle of my dollar? It happened. Camera = bad.
    Where is this orange spot you are talking about?? I can't see any orange spots...unless of course you are referring to very very very faint discolourations on the bill?
    Last edited by duvi; 04-16-2012 at 11:10 AM. Reason: language edit
    04-16-2012 09:46 AM
  19. Duvi's Avatar
    Calm down folks. Profanity and personal attacks are not welcomed. Lets keep this civilized.
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    04-16-2012 11:11 AM
  20. jd914's Avatar
    Where is this orange spot you are talking about?? I can't see any orange spots...unless of course you are referring to very very very faint discolourations on the bill?
    While indoors or in low light point the camera to a white wall, you'll be able to clearly see it. While outdoors everything if fine and dandy. This is a well known software issue and also visible on the HTC Titan. I'm not sure what other devices are affected by this.
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    04-16-2012 12:00 PM
  21. iphone4convert's Avatar
    Keeping mine 'til Windows Phone 8 comes out on the next generation Nokia with a higher resolution screen and a better camera. Should be later this year or early next. Then, I'm going to break my contract, pay the fee (recovering most of the money by selling my phone either through eBay, Gazelle or Best Buy Trade-In) and then puchasing the new phone (subsidized on a 2 yr contract) and porting my number. Depending upon the subsidized cost of the new phone, it should only come out to about $100 - $150 out of pocket considering we all got the phone for free. Adios iPhones....been good to know you.
    04-16-2012 12:22 PM
  22. cckgz4's Avatar
    If they have the blue before 30 days im switching lol!

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
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    04-16-2012 12:32 PM
  23. ejb222's Avatar
    My Cyan is a great upgrade from my iPhone 3GS. Love WP7, love the screen. Camera is an upgrade for me. Compared the camera to my mother's iPhone 4s last night. Her's was better in low light, but I have wider lens so it seems. I'll have to try day light pictures.

    But I'm keeping it. FREE FTW!
    04-16-2012 12:41 PM
  24. Grenzeloos's Avatar
    I'm on my 4th handset. I exchanged my 1st one only because of the call speaker was glitching. Then I went through 3 handsets in ONE DAY. All three were "Green Sticker" units which according to the manager at At&t were checked for hardware and software issues. Well all three, which includes the one I'm stuck with now have a horrible Vibra unit. It sounds like a clunking/metallic grind every time it runs. What sucks is the At&t employees agreed with me it didn't sound right, but the system wouldn't allow them to exchange another one, even though I had not even left the store with it. I contacted Nokia support via chat, they escalated my complaint and someone from Nokia is supposed to contact me around 230pm today. I'm also bothered by the Camera button not waking the phone from sleep, and the volume buttons not working with the lock screen, except for some music apps.

    Pending my call with Nokia, and what they can do to help me; then will decide if I keep it or wait till this fall for a WP8 handset. My Samsung focus is twice as responsive as the Lumia 900, and everything works as advertised with my Focus, a Gen 1 device.:dry
    04-16-2012 01:57 PM
  25. Duvi's Avatar
    I'm on my 4th handset. I exchanged my 1st one only because of the call speaker was glitching. Then I went through 3 handsets in ONE DAY. All three were "Green Sticker" units which according to the manager at At&t were checked for hardware and software issues. Well all three, which includes the one I'm stuck with now have a horrible Vibra unit. It sounds like a clunking/metallic grind every time it runs. What sucks is the At&t employees agreed with me it didn't sound right, but the system wouldn't allow them to exchange another one, even though I had not even left the store with it. I contacted Nokia support via chat, they escalated my complaint and someone from Nokia is supposed to contact me around 230pm today. I'm also bothered by the Camera button not waking the phone from sleep, and the volume buttons not working with the lock screen, except for some music apps.

    Pending my call with Nokia, and what they can do to help me; then will decide if I keep it or wait till this fall for a WP8 handset. My Samsung focus is twice as responsive as the Lumia 900, and everything works as advertised with my Focus, a Gen 1 device.:dry
    I would have said to return the device, no restocking fee. Then repurchase the device when you're eligible again.
    04-16-2012 02:51 PM
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