12-19-2012 02:55 PM
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  1. contributorM's Avatar
    I've never looked back. I've been an iPhone user since its first incarnation. I decided to check out the Lumia before buying the iPhone 5. I'm really happy I did. The great thing for me, is I've never had a "honeymoon" with this device. It felt like I've been a user of it since the first iPhone.

    Most of all. I do t have to jailbreak line I did my iPhone just to have great functionality. I grew tired of always jail breaking the iPhone.
    12-06-2012 12:25 AM
  2. tomatoes11's Avatar
    Honest answer. If you can live without the fancy transition animations of IOS and WP8, go with Android. Get a Nexus 4. It's blazing fast, although windows just pop up without a fancy animation sometimes. It has the best hardware by far in the Qualcomm S4 pro, wireless charging, 2gb of ram, screen that looks just as good as anything out there. All that for $299 unlocked. You just can't beat that.

    Sure, some WP8 and IOS fans like socialcarpet might give you some terrible advice and harp on the fact that it has no 4g LTE anywhere except in Canada, but what they think doesn't follow logic. They suggest you pay twice as much for an iphone 5 or put up with poor applications or brick phones with a WP8 device.
    12-06-2012 12:32 AM
  3. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Honest answer. If you can live without the fancy transition animations of IOS and WP8, go with Android. Get a Nexus 4. It's blazing fast, although windows just pop up without a fancy animation sometimes. It has the best hardware by far in the Qualcomm S4 pro, wireless charging, 2gb of ram, screen that looks just as good as anything out there. All that for $299 unlocked. You just can't beat that.

    Sure, some WP8 and IOS fans like socialcarpet might give you some terrible advice and harp on the fact that it has no 4g LTE anywhere except in Canada, but what they think doesn't follow logic. They suggest you pay twice as much for an iphone 5 or put up with poor applications ( brick phones with a WP8 device.
    Have you seen the video recording from Nexus 4? It's terrible. 2GB doesn't mean it's gonna be better. Some OS just eat a lot of memory. WP8 is buttery smooth with 1GB. All the flagship phones have LTE now.
    12-06-2012 01:02 AM
  4. diaper84's Avatar
    I really like the phone, but os not so much.
    there are so many little things that need to be polished. for example no dedicated volume control (when you lower volume on music you're lowering your ring volume too), no slider for music control, etc.
    I'll probably head back to android, but currently no android phone is that interesting.....
    12-06-2012 01:11 AM
  5. AZBrowncoat's Avatar
    Honest answer. If you can live without the fancy transition animations of IOS and WP8, go with Android. Get a Nexus 4. It's blazing fast, although windows just pop up without a fancy animation sometimes. It has the best hardware by far in the Qualcomm S4 pro, wireless charging, 2gb of ram, screen that looks just as good as anything out there. All that for $299 unlocked. You just can't beat that.

    Sure, some WP8 and IOS fans like socialcarpet might give you some terrible advice and harp on the fact that it has no 4g LTE anywhere except in Canada, but what they think doesn't follow logic. They suggest you pay twice as much for an iphone 5 or put up with poor applications or brick phones with a WP8 device.
    I've used iOS, wpOS, webOS & Android...and of them all I like Android the least. Like any mobile OS - Android isn't for everyone so "Get a Nexus 4" is a gross oversimplification of the issue.
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    12-06-2012 10:28 AM
  6. SteveISU's Avatar
    As much as I love the UI of WP8 it feels incomplete and a little scattered. I don't trust the battery one iota and right now the vibrate makes the phone sound like a $5 sex toy. I keep reaching for my Note 2. My 14 days is up tomorrow and I may need a 3rd phone. I'm gonna try to convince ATT to extend my trial, if not I may just return it all together.
    12-06-2012 11:11 AM
  7. ClixT's Avatar
    My first smartphone is the Xperia X10i (which I loved for the past year.)
    I still like Android (and still mess with it sometimes); however, I love the new WP8! :D
    IMHO, there's a lot of basic things missing like what the rest already mentioned.
    For the past 2 weeks of using my L920, lot's of people already complemented my phone hehehe, so get used it. :P

    Pros:
    Build quality, no lag, simplistic os, and many more I can't think of right now.

    Cons:
    some basic functionalities are missing, daytime photo could be better, not a lot of "real" WP8 apps as I write this.

    Conclusion: Buy one, but test it out first at a local ATT shop or MS store. In the end, it's up to you.
    12-06-2012 11:23 AM
  8. krystea's Avatar
    I went from an iPhone 3GS for two years, to a Samsung Evergreen (to get away from that "constantly being connected" feeling) that I had for a little longer than a year, now to the 920. To keep it short and sweet, I adapted quickly and love it so much more than any phone I've ever had. Once in a while will boot up the iPhone and not understand how I used it for as long as I did.
    Rich Edmonds likes this.
    12-06-2012 11:32 AM
  9. pjs37's Avatar
    I used iOS since the original iPhone came out until the Lumia 900 came out. I have to say the switch was made easier by the fact I still use an iPad as my tablet device. This way i don't feel completely cut out of the app store. That being said I have since the Lumia 900 been using a Windows Phone as my primary phone.; I tried the web demo of Windows Phone and that's what sold me.

    Things I do miss is things like some key apps though I have found some alternatives they usually are not up to par with the iOS version, and there are some still weird glitches which bother me at times and those are things I never worried about on iOS.

    But it is doable and not bad. The live tiles are a huge improvement over the terribly boring IOS interface and I need to click a lot less things to get the info I need. The whole app panaromic thing is really nice at least when apps bother to use them once you get used to swiping left and right to get to different screens its impossible to use an iPhone you try and swipe and it does like nothing. Not having to hit the home button all the time is nice and I love having a back button.
    12-06-2012 11:40 AM
  10. danjah's Avatar
    I switched from iPhone to L920 last week, and I'm loving it!

    The phone itself is close to perfect:
    - The camera almost feels like magic and makes me wanna take pictures all the time.
    - The screen is superb.
    - The shape and design is great.

    The OS on the other hand is a mixed experience:
    - Generally lacking a bunch of settings.
    - ..but flows like water most of the time.
    - Not as many apps, and the quality of them sometimes not as good as on ios. (ie Facebook).
    - ..but those well made apps makes you regain hope and see all the potential.

    Bottom line; I think you should go for it! :)
    12-06-2012 11:48 AM
  11. cruzcat's Avatar
    I have had my fair share of Android and iOS devices in the past. But I can honestly say without reservation that the lumia 920 is the best device I have ever owned. Just a gorgeous device to hold.
    After lengthy consideration I was willing to embrace the dark side (AT&T) for the privilege of owning the Nokia.
    After using the metro UI for the past few weeks the Android interface feels antiquated to me. I am running CM10 (Jelly Bean) on the kindle fire and the Galaxy Tab and even JB doesnt feel as fluid as the metro UI. Although, I must admit that the Kindle/Galaxy Tab hardware is quite a bit slower compared to the Lumia 920 and JB may be much smoother on Nexus 4 etc.
    Things that are irritations (minor) to me on the Lumia compared to latest Android devices
    1.) A unified notification system. I really like the notification center from Jelly Bean. I can live with the live tile notifications and hope the Microsoft step up in the next few months.
    2.) Google Maps and Navigation is much better in terms of interface and integration compared to Nokia Maps/Drive. Need Nokia Drive to at least provide an alternate route option and one integrated app.
    3.) Lack of support for some core Google services such as Maps and Google voice. I cant even launch the mobile version of Google maps from IE.
    I use Metrotalk but it doesnt have the same usability as Google Voice.
    4.)I would really like better integration with Windows 8. I record tv show using Media Center but dont understand why I have to convert them to play them on my WP8 device. With my Android devices, I could actually mount my Windows drive using cifs and stream the tv shows directly to my phone/tab and play .wtv file with MX player. This is more of a MS issue and hope they provide better integration.

    5.) Daytime pics are soft (as everyone has noticed) but the low light pics are fantastic and I can live with this tradeoff for now knowing that a software update will fix this.

    6.) IE on the lumia feels incredibly quick to render pages but the interface is very minimal and could use an update. I like dolphin on Android and wish IE was updated or MS allowed 3rd party browsers. Left Swipe from main screen to access favorites and right swipe for setting and a tabbed browser option (similar to dolphin) would be great.
    7.) The app store is growing and I dont mind the lack of apps that much but my wife uses a bunch of apps like Path, Okta and cannot migrate to a Lumia 920 despite the fact that she really likes the device.

    I havent had any issues with my battery life since I uninstalled Skype and get a least a day and half with my normal usage patterns. Overall, I am quite happy with the Lumia 920 and hope that most of the small issues are fixed in the first quarter of 2013.

    In some ways some of these issues may be deal breakers for others but I have a soft corner for Nokia as my first mobile device was a Nokia 5190 (which I recently threw away and was still working) and I worked at Nokia Research for 6+ months.

    Just to give a sense of where I am coming from :-)
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    12-06-2012 11:51 AM
  12. Slai's Avatar
    I have not touched my iPhone except for GPS during traveling(no 920 international plan).
    Pro-tip: just download your maps and use them offline. That is, if they actually are up to date enough to travel with.

    Myself, Ive used meego, maemo5, nokia belle, android 2.3 and up and wp7.5. My last phone was the SGS3.

    SGS3 is a GREAT phone. Like seriously, its basically a perfect phone for me. Battery is amazing, screen is great, phone feels good in use, its fast, and so on and so forth.

    However, my 920 FEELS amazing. In addition it does have as good a screen as the SGS3, about the same battery or so it seems (mine had battery issues and is in for a fix atm), the OS itself just feels more coherent, and the way social sites are working with contacts, pictures, chat, Me-tile etc is great. I love that.

    Iunno, Id put the 920 and the SGS3 on almost equal footing for my own use. With the 920 a step ahead for doing 80% of what I do easier, prettier and faster than the SGS3.
    12-06-2012 12:15 PM
  13. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Honest answer. If you can live without the fancy transition animations of IOS and WP8, go with Android. Get a Nexus 4. It's blazing fast, although windows just pop up without a fancy animation sometimes. It has the best hardware by far in the Qualcomm S4 pro, wireless charging, 2gb of ram, screen that looks just as good as anything out there. All that for $299 unlocked. You just can't beat that.

    Sure, some WP8 and IOS fans like socialcarpet might give you some terrible advice and harp on the fact that it has no 4g LTE anywhere except in Canada, but what they think doesn't follow logic. They suggest you pay twice as much for an iphone 5 or put up with poor applications or brick phones with a WP8 device.
    I don't just harp on the lack of LTE, which is significant, but also the fact that LG builds garbage. If you think corners aren't being cut to make the phone that price, you're sadly mistaken.

    That's without even getting into what I hate about Android.

    Specs aside, I'd still rather have a Galaxy Nexus or an S3 or even a silly Note 2 than this POS. At least we know Samsung can build decent, reliable phones (even if they are hewn from cheap and chintzy plastics)

    I had an LG Revolution and it was a worthless piece of crap, so many problems with that thing and LG was useless as far as support, the polar opposite of Nokia. It pretty much convinced me never to buy an LG product again.
    12-06-2012 12:17 PM
  14. socialcarpet's Avatar
    As much as I love the UI of WP8 it feels incomplete and a little scattered. I don't trust the battery one iota and right now the vibrate makes the phone sound like a $5 sex toy. I keep reaching for my Note 2. My 14 days is up tomorrow and I may need a 3rd phone. I'm gonna try to convince ATT to extend my trial, if not I may just return it all together.
    Make sure you use both hands when reaching for the Note. LOL
    12-06-2012 12:19 PM
  15. Rich Edmonds's Avatar
    Honest answer. If you can live without the fancy transition animations of IOS and WP8, go with Android. Get a Nexus 4. It's blazing fast, although windows just pop up without a fancy animation sometimes. It has the best hardware by far in the Qualcomm S4 pro, wireless charging, 2gb of ram, screen that looks just as good as anything out there. All that for $299 unlocked. You just can't beat that.

    Sure, some WP8 and IOS fans like socialcarpet might give you some terrible advice and harp on the fact that it has no 4g LTE anywhere except in Canada, but what they think doesn't follow logic. They suggest you pay twice as much for an iphone 5 or put up with poor applications or brick phones with a WP8 device.
    I'd have to disagree here, coming from a previous Android owner. WP8 transitions don't really affect performance of the devices themselves, so I'm not sure exactly how that should be a factor when attempting to choose a platform to go for. While the Nexus 4 may well be fast, a low-end Windows Phone isn't exactly "slow" - you still get the butter smooth experience. If you're going for all out specifications then I wouldn't say there's much in it comparing the new Nexus 4 to the Lumia 920. Sure, it has 2GB RAM and a more advanced chip, but it needs that just to get by without stuttering. It's the beauty of Windows Phone. Microsoft has done a superb job in optimising Windows Phone 8 with the new core.

    I've never had a bricked Windows Phone 8 handset. How you're flat out recommending an Android device purely on specifications is slightly misleading when you're not talking about Android as an OS with future updates that aren't being delivered to many consumers, problems with malware, as well as other issues. Sure, iOS and Windows Phone have their problems, I'm not denying that, but to recommend Android over both with the Nexus 4 is slightly humorous, no?
    12-06-2012 12:38 PM
  16. GomzyRockz's Avatar
    Like many of our friends, I have switched from Android. Though there are some apps which are missing, I am willing to give it some time.

    Many of my fav things about WP8 has already been talked. One of my fav features is the People's Hub and the fact that we can create a group of my best friends and pin it on my home screen. That way I can get only their FB and twitter updates. Great Social Integration!!
    12-06-2012 12:39 PM
  17. entropism's Avatar
    I don't just harp on the lack of LTE, which is significant, but also the fact that LG builds garbage. If you think corners aren't being cut to make the phone that price, you're sadly mistaken.
    I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was dead set on selling my Galaxy S3 for the next Nexus. As soon as I heard it was going to be LG I gave a resounding "NOPE!" ****, LG themselves have basically admitted they crippled the Nexus to sell more Optimus Gs. If I was a betting man, I'd put money on Google being VERY upset with LG right now. That being said, the Galaxy S3 is amazing, and the Note 2 is absolutely incredible. Flash AOSP android on there and you have a great device.

    Now, as for WP8... I gave up Android cold turkey for the 920, and I initially loved it. There are some minor things that drive me absolutely bonkers though, and it's not just app selection. In fact, app selection is the least of my concerns, as I have 95% of what I used on my Android on my Lumia.

    - Ringtones & notification tones: First, my alarm. While it was blaring on my previous phones. Not sure wtf is going on, but it's low. Second, I prefer having a different tone set up for different things, and obviously that can't happen on WP8. Not a deal breaker, but annoying.

    - Nokia Drive: In my area, it's not that great. Odd routing choices are my biggest concern, but the nav doesn't feel "finished", which is odd considering how long it's been out. Not really a complaint as it's just not what I'm used to.

    - The email app: I use GMail for all my mail. I have an older personal Gmail account, a more professional, recent Gmail account, along with a yahoo spam account and a Live.com account for WP8 that all comes into my "professional" Gmail account. That being said, I LOVED Gmail on Android (obviously), and I hate the mail app on WP8 for 2 main reasons: First, having to download pictures manually on EVERY email I receive, instead of having an option to remember my preference. Second, I'm kind of OCD about all my deleted mail being marked as read, and with WP8, I have to select about 20-30 each morning, mark them all as read, then select them all AGAIN, then hit delete. Why the **** can't the mail app just remember which were marked? Works just fine on Android, doesn't here. This is silly, but it's a major annoyance for me.

    - Apps that I do use have horrible ports: Yelp is a disaster on WP8, and Untappd (Think 4Square for beer) doesn't exist so I have to use the web page. Rowi is nice but Plume is 100x better. NextGen RSS is actually amazing, and I have no complaints about it, as compared to GReader by Noinnion. Facebook obviously blows on both platforms, but it's MUCH worse on WP8.

    - Google Voice blows: I use Google Voice for my voicemail, and post my GVoice # for texts when I sell things on Craigslist. The best I've found is Metrotalk, and it's not great by any means. I can't really complain since it's a Google based service, but it's something pushing me back to Android.

    - The Dialer: No T9 dialing or even a predictive list based off the number you're entering? Using a 3rd party dialer app makes you confirm everything before you call? There's no reason for it. This is a MAJOR annoyance for me.


    Now, the good: WP8 is a breath of fresh air design wise. It works, and it works well if you can come in with a clean slate. For a first smartphone, I will ALWAYS recommend WP, and for those who want simplicity this is definitely the OS for them. The home screen and live tiles are great, and the information is right where you need it. I just don't know if it's enough to keep me. I originally got this phone as an iPod replacement, to be a spare phone. I LOVED the music management on WP7, loved the Zune player and software, loved wireless sync. Of course, Microsoft had to ditch that feature, so... Yeah. Still making up my mind. I will say that if they EVER made an Android phone as well built as the 920, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
    12-06-2012 01:08 PM
  18. sym1a1a's Avatar
    supertube and i believe metrotube will both allow you to upload to youtube, I use supertube and it works great,
    12-06-2012 01:23 PM
  19. SteveISU's Avatar
    Make sure you use both hands when reaching for the Note. LOL

    Luckily I have big hands.
    12-06-2012 01:37 PM
  20. cameradork's Avatar
    I switched from Android and iOS. No regrets so far. I can recommend the hardware 100%, but read up on the issues (most of which are documented on this forum) and make sure to exchange it if you run into any of those problems. Mine has worked perfectly from day one (knock on polycarbonite). The voice quality is great, the screen is beautiful, and the camera hardware is amazing for a phone (though the processing software needs work).

    I can't recommend WP8 yet to most of my friends yet. It's still rough around the edges and missing a few key apps and features that iOS and Android have had for awhile. I'm pretty confident it'll work itself out over time, and I'm totally fine waiting. Overall, I like the experience more than Android or iOS. All the basics (phone/txt/email) are solid if not a little feature-barren. If you're a patient early-adopter type, you might end up liking it a lot. If you're expecting it to be as polished as Android or iOS, or have specific app/feature needs that aren't available yet, then keep it on the back burner for another contract cycle and check back later to see if it's baked enough to your liking.
    12-06-2012 02:13 PM
  21. AngeloUCF's Avatar
    Things I don't:
    -the app differential, as much as people hate to hear it mentioned, is real, unavoidable, and legit. Super frustrating seeing all these great apps (Stick-n-Find, Zite 2.0, Instagram, Pocket, etc etc etc the list goes on) available for iOS and Android but not WP8. Hopefully that will improve with time. Hopefully. I'll be thrilled if and when it does, but I won't be shocked if it doesn't.
    Have you tried Weave? Best news app I've ever used. I looked for it when I moved to iOS, and found Zite was lacking in comparison. Haven't tried 2.0 though.
    12-06-2012 02:41 PM
  22. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Pro-tip: just download your maps and use them offline. That is, if they actually are up to date enough to travel with.

    Myself, Ive used meego, maemo5, nokia belle, android 2.3 and up and wp7.5. My last phone was the SGS3.

    SGS3 is a GREAT phone. Like seriously, its basically a perfect phone for me. Battery is amazing, screen is great, phone feels good in use, its fast, and so on and so forth.

    However, my 920 FEELS amazing. In addition it does have as good a screen as the SGS3, about the same battery or so it seems (mine had battery issues and is in for a fix atm), the OS itself just feels more coherent, and the way social sites are working with contacts, pictures, chat, Me-tile etc is great. I love that.

    Iunno, Id put the 920 and the SGS3 on almost equal footing for my own use. With the 920 a step ahead for doing 80% of what I do easier, prettier and faster than the SGS3.
    Protip: GPS does not work unless you have a working SIM card in that region.
    12-06-2012 09:29 PM
  23. Sahkolihaa's Avatar
    Having had a Nexus S, Galaxy Note and still currently own a Nexus 7, I'm starting to like WP8 more than Android. The main reason is because there's little manufacturer 'changes' that I feel ruin the experience (Galaxy Note was terrible for this), but also because even my Nexus 7 has plenty of stutters and lag issues even on a Tegra 3 chip, which are now more noticeable after getting used to the extreme silky smooth experience I've had with my Lumia 920.

    I was quite surprised at how well Microsoft had worked on social capabilities with WP8. The fact I can sync my Google account, Live, Facebook and Twitter to my phone with no additional apps is superb. I do use the Twitter and Facebook apps since they give you more features, though.
    12-07-2012 01:14 AM
  24. Slai's Avatar
    Protip: GPS does not work unless you have a working SIM card in that region.
    Really? Cause GPS worked fine with NO simcard on my other Nokia phones.
    12-07-2012 01:59 AM
  25. dameon_03's Avatar
    i switched from android and i just love how intergrated twitter and facebook is even though i have apps for them. i tend to forget sometimes that i have those apps and just use facebook and twitter right from the phone. as for me there werent may apps that needed to be replaced since i barely used many on android. i like the smoothness and fluidity of wp8. there were some minor quirks here and there like not being able to import bookmarks directly into the browser, but i found a workaround for it. i want to tinker around with the insides of this phone if possible, but i dont wanna render my 920 useless lol. this phone has the best battery life i have had in a phone. it is a very nice and very well built phone
    12-07-2012 02:17 PM
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