12-19-2012 06:56 AM
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  1. anthonyng's Avatar
    Jaime who?

    My Nokia stock having a nice run finally. if you bought like 6 months ago it's like 250+% gain right now :D
    12-18-2012 01:01 PM
  2. LikeWaah's Avatar
    There are many tech writers who are still on Apple's jock. There was one writer in particular who fancied himself as a 'analyst', stating that Nokia would be out of business by as early as the end of this year!! Hahaha, what a terrible call. I tried to explain to him that Nokia's financial position isn't as dire as he thought, and that they can remain solvent for at least another 6 quarters. Even that was an extremely pessimistic outlook, assuming no profits, and continued cash burn.

    I cited Nokia's quarterly reports to support my claims. He refuted my claims with inaccurate news articles, never once actually taking a look at the financial statements provided by Nokia. In other words, he was not just ignorant, he was being willfully ignorant.

    Believe me, I will be following him to ridicule him next year, and the following quarters after that. Especially if Nokia shows an operating profit in Q1 2013. I am not usually one to hold a grudge, but if you make ridiculous claims like that, then ignore all evidence given to you, while continuing to run your mouth, I will not let you forget how much of an ***** you were being.
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    12-18-2012 01:16 PM
  3. based_graham's Avatar
    Meh.. reason why WP isn't at the 10-15% is because you have a bunch of Jamie Rivera's working at your local retail outlets. Obviously those are people with a lack of vision and have a bad taste for technology.
    12-18-2012 01:22 PM
  4. Kilauea91's Avatar
    There are many tech writers who are still on Apple's jock. There was one writer in particular who fancied himself as a 'analyst', stating that Nokia would be out of business by as early as the end of this year!! Hahaha, what a terrible call. I tried to explain to him that Nokia's financial position isn't as dire as he thought, and that they can remain solvent for at least another 6 quarters. Even that was an extremely pessimistic outlook, assuming no profits, and continued cash burn.

    I cited Nokia's quarterly reports to support my claims. He refuted my claims with inaccurate news articles, never once actually taking a look at the financial statements provided by Nokia. In other words, he was not just ignorant, he was being willfully ignorant.

    Believe me, I will be following him to ridicule him next year, and the following quarters after that. Especially if Nokia shows an operating profit in Q1 2013. I am not usually one to hold a grudge, but if you make ridiculous claims like that, then ignore all evidence given to you, while continuing to run your mouth, I will not let you forget how much of an ***** you were being.

    Your saying "fancied himself a ANALyst" makes me giggle. Speaking of analyst, here is a quote from Reuters today:

    "I think people are looking and saying, 'Hey, there aren't enough 920s in the market', but the reality is that the volume is so small. It's not going to move the needle," said Pacific Crest Securities analyst James Faucette.

    This is the same person who gave PALM an outperform rating while its priced @ 17+/share back in Sept 2009, and less than 8 months later, PALM is bought out by HP for $5.70/share and we all know where PALM ended up today.
    This is the same person who gave bullish comment on AAPL back in Oct this year while it's still $630+/share and it's not hard to see how AAPL has been doing since.
    This is the same person who came in to give Boingo Wireless a target price of $13 after crashing down to ~7.70 in June 2011 from $13.50 IPO price , and the stock dipped further down to ~$6.80 in
    October the same year.

    I trust more of my own crystal ball than listening to these ANALyst.
    12-18-2012 02:09 PM
  5. azasadny's Avatar
    I don't read most tech writers because they spread lies and half-truths or just ignorance. I remember that one of them (can't remember which hipster this was) who said that a Windows 8 phone wouldn't sync with Windows 7 desktop OS. What a load of rubbish! Then the limp-wristed ones scream about how heavy the phone is... what a bunch of garbage! But then again the whole "hair combed into a point on the top of their heads" really didn't do anything for me. What qualifications do these idiots need? Noneee. anyone can put a "tech blog" out there and I can choose to ignore them!
    12-18-2012 02:09 PM
  6. nander's Avatar
    You must be a serious fanboy and a little unstable if you call someone an ******* just for not liking Nokia. It's his opinion, just like the opinions of every other writer in that article. Get over it. And honestly, after the way they messed up the release of the 920 here in the UK, they kinda deserve imo (KEY WORDS: IN MY OPINION)

    I adore my 920 but really, hearing the horrible stories of defective and bricked units, the difficulty getting one and the not so great daylight performance AT LAUNCH (yes the fix is incoming, but it should have been there from day one), Nokia definitely had some stumbles. But seriously, get over yourself. It's just a damn phone (maker).
    12-18-2012 03:41 PM
  7. ColeHarris's Avatar
    Here's what I know: I'm sitting here holding my Lumia 920 and I'm absolutely unequivocally smitten with it, and nothing else really matters.
    12-18-2012 04:17 PM
  8. Aggemam's Avatar
    Fine. Jaime Riveras opinion sucks, imo.
    12-18-2012 04:23 PM
  9. LikeWaah's Avatar
    Your saying "fancied himself a ANALyst" makes me giggle. Speaking of analyst, here is a quote from Reuters today:

    "I think people are looking and saying, 'Hey, there aren't enough 920s in the market', but the reality is that the volume is so small. It's not going to move the needle," said Pacific Crest Securities analyst James Faucette.

    This is the same person who gave PALM an outperform rating while its priced @ 17+/share back in Sept 2009, and less than 8 months later, PALM is bought out by HP for $5.70/share and we all know where PALM ended up today.
    This is the same person who gave bullish comment on AAPL back in Oct this year while it's still $630+/share and it's not hard to see how AAPL has been doing since.
    This is the same person who came in to give Boingo Wireless a target price of $13 after crashing down to ~7.70 in June 2011 from $13.50 IPO price , and the stock dipped further down to ~$6.80 in
    October the same year.

    I trust more of my own crystal ball than listening to these ANALyst.
    No kidding.

    To be fair, if I were to publish my own price targets, I would probably be wrong 90% of the time as well. It's really hard to predict exact prices. However, as far as general trends are concerned, I think it's possible to predict their general direction and magnitude.

    That being said, a lot of analysts keep much too short of a time frame in mind, and seem to follow their peers more than high school teens do. I don't trust much of what the analysts say. However, if the analyst is being reasonable and logical with their opinion, I will listen. It's always helpful to take their facts and reported figures and apply my own critical thinking. There's entirely too much hyperbole being tossed around, both for bull and bear cases.

    At the end of the day, as long as my portfolio is in the green, I could care less what these analysts say. If anything, they are keeping the stock down for me to increase my position for cheaper.
    12-18-2012 06:12 PM
  10. sjhippie's Avatar
    I absolutely love mine. Since mine got effing lost/stolen the other night, I'm on my second. There was no question to replace it or not. Was talking to the ATT rep as he was sorting out a sweet replacement deal and he said they haven't been able to keep them in stock. Granted, it's silicon valley and we're addicted to our gadgets, but I think Nokia and WP is a fabulous combination. Just my .02
    12-18-2012 07:12 PM
  11. vlad0's Avatar
    I bet you that he doesn't know anything about pureview... how it works, or what is involved to make it work... he simply sounds like a proper troll.
    12-18-2012 07:17 PM
  12. erzhik's Avatar
    What does an opinion of one blogger has to do with success of a phone? Many of us have 920, and we know that the phone is great. So why bother with an opinion of one person? How many of us bashed iPhone?
    12-18-2012 07:26 PM
  13. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    I've got two words for Jaime Rivera... SUCK IT!!

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    12-18-2012 07:54 PM
  14. MDak280's Avatar
    This dude is a hack and the reason I stopped visiting that site.
    I agree, he is pretty annoying. But I set the site to show "Windows Phone Only" articles, and he hardly ever writes about Windows. Most of the writers there aren't too terribly biased. They have pretty nice reviews and articles and they recently posted a video comparison of the Lumia 920 and Ativ S, which I enjoyed! :)
    12-18-2012 08:01 PM
  15. SoloXCRacer's Avatar
    Who is Jaime Rivera and why should I care what he thinks?

    EDIT: Ah, I just looked up his job title. "Multimedia Manager". So he's the guy who sets up and fixes the projector in all the conference rooms. Yeah, really qualified.
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    12-18-2012 08:19 PM
  16. 50000's Avatar
    When one of your major features fails to deliver - ahem, daylight photos - people are going to take notice.
    Purely an over-aggressive noise processing algorithm, which has been enhanced already to provide significantly sharper photos and is in today's over the air update.
    12-18-2012 09:35 PM
  17. Jazmac's Avatar
    Jaime craves attention. Comments like this get him the kinds of YOUTUBE audience he needs for ratings and money. He's not the only one doing this. ZDNet has an entire wing devoted to manufacturing ******ed stories about Microsoft. They have to. Otherwise they would shrink to the size of a postage stamp.
    12-18-2012 10:14 PM
  18. irvin792's Avatar
    Jaime craves attention. Comments like this get him the kinds of YOUTUBE audience he needs for ratings and money. He's not the only one doing this. ZDNet has an entire wing devoted to manufacturing ******ed stories about Microsoft. They have to. Otherwise they would shrink to the size of a postage stamp.
    Moving on up! to the East side! lol love your avatar
    Jazmac likes this.
    12-18-2012 10:38 PM
  19. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    Yeah, it's a shame that sites do that... especially ZDNet. I look at true journalists like Mary Jo Foley and Ed Bott who do actual research and present factual information (and clearly state the difference between the facts and their opinions), and I wonder how they survive in a sea full of morons like Adrian Kingsley-Hughes. Even when I don't agree with the opinions, as long as facts are presented honestly and fairly, I can respect and read your work. I've been following MJ and Ed for about 20 years now. I read AKH for about a month before I accepted he was an ***** and moved on, because I was tired of being annoyed after reading every article.

    One of the reasons I love coming to WPCentral though... the guys work hard to be actual journalists. I realize the news gets very Nokia-centric at times, but that's strictly because Nokia is the one making all the news. I appreciate their perspectives too, and if any of them swing by and read this thread, I hope they know I thank them for their work.
    jtes8 likes this.
    12-18-2012 10:45 PM
  20. crystal_planet's Avatar
    I'm not clicking that link. I'm not going to give his piece any more hits than it deserves. Guys like that don't care about factual information or have a valid opinion, and it doesn't matter how balanced or un balanced their stuff is - they are going for the hits. And the easiest way to do that is to spout the most inflammatory stuff possible. Like Siegler's garbage on the Surface RT where the last picture shows it in the trash can. If no one clicked their links, their writing fails.

    It's that simple.
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    12-19-2012 05:56 AM
  21. palandri's Avatar
    This thread is going nowhere. Closed.
    12-19-2012 06:56 AM
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