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  1. rifqi23cool's Avatar
    i never use 920, but maybe i could share something.. i used a Galaxy Note 1 for a short period of time (not my main device)..

    the pros: the SPen is very great, no lies!.. the weight is surprisingly light for a big device.. and how it looks on a book case thing.. makes it elegant (if in a book case)..

    the cons: i feel that the size isn't right to be a primary phone.. too big for a phone, to small to be considered as a tablet.. the OS isn't that light and sometimes laggy (it was on ICS), and the build material, that plastic thing that samsung is currently using on their recent devices gives a cheap feeling on hand if not using a book cover or something..

    i use androids before, it's a good OS, i won't lie.. but after comparing with my recent WP8 Device, spec like 1Ghz and 512mb RAM running WP8 is way lighter and smoother
    you won't get the same smoothness on an android device with the same spec...
    05-01-2013 12:03 PM
  2. ag1986's Avatar
    Remember that this is a WP forum and some answers may be slightly biased :P

    One thing I forgot to mention, if you do decide on an Android phone, please consider a Nexus 4. For $400 unlocked, it's an amazing phone if LTE is not a requirement. I've been using Nexus devices since Jan 2011 and have never had the various issues people profess to have on Android. Getting a Nexus 4 means you'll receive updates straight from Google. Though you may want to wait till Google's I/O event in May, they might announce a better phone there :)
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    05-01-2013 12:24 PM
  3. Jaripi's Avatar
    Remember that this is a WP forum and some answers may be slightly biased :P

    One thing I forgot to mention, if you do decide on an Android phone, please consider a Nexus 4. For $400 unlocked, it's an amazing phone if LTE is not a requirement. I've been using Nexus devices since Jan 2011 and have never had the various issues people profess to have on Android. Getting a Nexus 4 means you'll receive updates straight from Google. Though you may want to wait till Google's I/O event in May, they might announce a better phone there :)
    Well, Nexus 4 camera is not that great one - it is a trade off ... Nexus 4 review: Camera | Phone Reviews | TechRadar
    05-01-2013 12:31 PM
  4. chezm's Avatar
    Remember that this is a WP forum and some answers may be slightly biased :P

    One thing I forgot to mention, if you do decide on an Android phone, please consider a Nexus 4. For $400 unlocked, it's an amazing phone if LTE is not a requirement. I've been using Nexus devices since Jan 2011 and have never had the various issues people profess to have on Android. Getting a Nexus 4 means you'll receive updates straight from Google. Though you may want to wait till Google's I/O event in May, they might announce a better phone there :)
    How do you find the battery on your Nexus device? The battery on my Nexus 7 is HORRID...i love the thing, as a tablet Android works great. However i cant get more than 4-5 hours of use (surfing, watching videos, reading flipboard) before the battery is dead. I did research and discovered the Media Server CPU battery consumption....dealt with that (killed all music player processes) but the battery is still lacking.
    05-01-2013 12:42 PM
  5. ag1986's Avatar
    How do you find the battery on your Nexus device? The battery on my Nexus 7 is HORRID...i love the thing, as a tablet Android works great. However i cant get more than 4-5 hours of use (surfing, watching videos, reading flipboard) before the battery is dead. I did research and discovered the Media Server CPU battery consumption....dealt with that (killed all music player processes) but the battery is still lacking.
    I had the same opinions on my N7, I have a 16 GB wifi model. On the first long flight I took with it, I spent 3-4 hrs watching video (sitcom episodes in MP4 format in an AVI container, playing via VLC Beta) and maybe 2 hrs reading using the Kindle app. I found that I had ~35% battery left at the end of it. That led me to believe that it was the radio taking up most power, and now I leave the tablet in airplane mode most of the time. My usage is mostly watching local video and Kindle books, so it may not fit your usage patterns. I haven't faced this Media Server issue, but I have no music on the tablet.

    Re my N4, after 14 hours outside the house with light usage: 15-20 mins GPS navigation, maybe 30 mins of voice calls, lots of time checking Facebook, reading email and occasional light gaming for maybe 60 mins, I still have 40% battery left. It's quite satisfactory, have never had a reason to complain,
    05-01-2013 02:22 PM
  6. ag1986's Avatar
    Well, Nexus 4 camera is not that great one - it is a trade off ... Nexus 4 review: Camera | Phone Reviews | TechRadar
    Agreed, but OP did not seem to value camera performance too much.
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    05-01-2013 02:22 PM
  7. inteller's Avatar
    Notes are garbage. I had one for a day and as I would sit there and hold it I would think, "this looks ridiculous!". and I wouldn't dare bring one of those things to my ear to make a phone call. Might as well bring an iPad to your ear, you will look like a fool!
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    05-01-2013 02:45 PM
  8. chezm's Avatar
    I had the same opinions on my N7, I have a 16 GB wifi model. On the first long flight I took with it, I spent 3-4 hrs watching video (sitcom episodes in MP4 format in an AVI container, playing via VLC Beta) and maybe 2 hrs reading using the Kindle app. I found that I had ~35% battery left at the end of it. That led me to believe that it was the radio taking up most power, and now I leave the tablet in airplane mode most of the time. My usage is mostly watching local video and Kindle books, so it may not fit your usage patterns. I haven't faced this Media Server issue, but I have no music on the tablet.

    Re my N4, after 14 hours outside the house with light usage: 15-20 mins GPS navigation, maybe 30 mins of voice calls, lots of time checking Facebook, reading email and occasional light gaming for maybe 60 mins, I still have 40% battery left. It's quite satisfactory, have never had a reason to complain,
    I have the 32GB WIFI model. Airplane mode eh? Standby time its incredible, it can go 12 days on standby without any issues...i find the major problem is when i actually use the device to surf or watch videos. I turn the brightness down less than 20% overall, shut off all unnecessary processes running and only turn WIFI on when i use it (wifi off when in standby). As for the MEdia Server, i researched and this culprit was killing my battery in standby....however it didnt help with battery life while in use. I dont have music on the tablet either, thats why i disabled all the processes (related to media server consumption).

    Your N4 seems pretty solid, nice!! lasting longer than my L920 currently. Seems inline with what i was getting on my S3.
    05-01-2013 02:50 PM
  9. Gurggles's Avatar
    I have had a 920 since launch. I love this device, by far the best phone I have ever had.

    WP8 is not buggy in the slightest, in my opinion it is one of the most stable OSes out there. But when looking at phones, look at what the device is now, not what it could be with updates. Android devices must be looked at that way because most may never see an update.

    The note 1 is a nice device, but it is older and does not sport a CPU to let you play high graphic games (in some cases). If you want a GIANT screen then the Note is perfect for you, just be ready to be teased with a phone that large is used to make calls. My roommate its teased by everyone when he makes a call.

    The 920 is stable, fluid, and never lags. It may be a bit heavier than Samsung's phones but the trade off is worth it. If you are an Xbox user, Skydrive User, or Windows user than you will find more to love out of the WP8 platform. Keep in mind too, just because Microsoft will not be pushing security updates past 2014 (which is what they mean) does not mean Nokia cannot update your device!

    Samsung has a more "hit-it and quit-it" attitude with their phones, if one flops then they will have a new one out in a month. Nokia builds device tailored to the user.
    05-01-2013 02:58 PM
  10. farukdgn's Avatar
    If apps are important for you get Note.
    You will get no support after a few updates (if you are lucky) from Samsung.
    Also remember you're posting this on a windows phone forum.
    05-01-2013 03:05 PM
  11. Winfonejunkie's Avatar
    I have both phones and I must say I like them both. The 920 is an overall better phone (better camera, better screen, better build, stronger radios (wifi/cell), and far superior design. The Note is lighter and has the S Pen. The notes real trump card is the S PEN. The ability to write on a screen and transcribe notes is really next gen. But other than the Pen, the large screen is nice, but makes the phone cumbersome to use.

    If I had to pick one, i'd go Lumia because the experience is just too sublime to be missed. If I were forced to go Android, then I would definitely go with the Note 2.

    The Note 2 does make me salivate for a Nokia Phablet running Windows Phone 8...
    05-02-2013 01:53 AM
  12. AlanDS's Avatar
    I am using Note 2 since last 4 months and got a Lumia 920 5 days ago. I would say that phone phones are good.
    But when it comes in choosing one of those, I prefer Lumia. I feel that Lumia is much more smoother than Note 2 and display is awesome.
    I have all the softwares for WP which I am using in Note 2. The only downside is lack of a good generic SIP client and bugs in Facebook App. I am not happy with the Music Player of WP as I cannot seek the track to required position while playing. I am sure, this will improve in coming days.
    05-02-2013 07:00 AM
  13. JammyGitz's Avatar
    The Note is like a fricking TV, no use as a phone
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    05-02-2013 08:52 AM
  14. scottcraft's Avatar
    My wife recently got the Note 2 and it is an impressive phone. I enjoy using my 8X, but the Note has more and better apps and overall it can do more than my 8X. If the camera is really important and the 920 has the apps you need go for it, it's a good phone. For me I wish I would have gotten the Note instead of the 8X.
    05-02-2013 10:02 AM
  15. jfa1's Avatar
    I have only played with android and don't think its bad I just like WP's UI better and as I have said I am looking forward to the option of a Lumia phablet!
    05-02-2013 10:38 AM
  16. POCKETABLEtech's Avatar
    Both are really great devices and you can't go wrong with either device, with that being said both phones bring different things to the table. I went from using a Galaxy Note as my daily driver for about a year and then picked up the Lumia 920 which has become my current daily driver and my Galaxy note has been demoted to my at home phablet. After using the Lumia 920 for just a few days I was really impressed with the fluidity of WP8 and how smoothly and well oiled the OS functions. I originally bought the Note cause I was interested in the 5.3inch screen real estate it had to offer however after using the Lumia 920 I realized that a 4.7inch display on the Lumia 920 was more than sufficient for my purpose. Also was caused me to pick up the Lumia 920 was the optics/image stabilization and it still to this day has one of the best cameras on a phone and probably THE best low light photography optics.

    I compared both phones at a shop. I like the 920 better actually. But I am very leery of buying it because of
    MS's bug-infested track record. Ad I will be really teed off if I spend $500+ dollars on a buggy phone.

    I have a very low tolerance for glitches and bugs. The Samsung Note seems to have a smooth track record
    & a lot of satisfied users. But I like the look, feel and potential of the 920 better.
    As far as bugs and lag are concerned your going to run into that from time to time on any device, but like I said earlier the WP8 OS runs very smoothly and coming from an Android background its what impressed me the most. If you do decide on getting the Galaxy Note I would suggest going with the Note 2 since its faster and more up-to-date then the first, BUT before you make any decisions go and invest more time using each device at the store and learn all the features each phone has to offer and also decide on whether a 5.3inch display is really going to be of value to you or an inconvenience. Lastly play with the cameras on each phone and keep in mind that the Lumia 920 will have better low light performance than the Galaxy Note.
    Last edited by POCKETABLEtech; 05-02-2013 at 12:41 PM. Reason: grammar
    05-02-2013 12:39 PM
  17. robotaholic's Avatar
    For battery and screen, you can't beat the note 2. Battery is 3100 mah; lasts me a day and a half easy
    05-02-2013 07:55 PM
  18. Dr Tone's Avatar
    For battery and screen, you can't beat the note 2. Battery is 3100 mah; lasts me a day and a half easy
    My Ativ S with it's 2300mA battery actually equals my Note 2 in battery life.

    Shocking!
    05-02-2013 08:14 PM
  19. Jaripi's Avatar
    For battery and screen, you can't beat the note 2. Battery is 3100 mah; lasts me a day and a half easy
    About display, you mean that you can not beat the size of that display ... but for example, Lumia 920 display is clearly better for outside use (sun light readability)
    05-03-2013 12:19 AM
  20. Chaleck's Avatar
    Thanks everybody. I learned a lot shopping for cell phones this time. I've ruled out Lumia though due to MS's announcement about discontinuing WP8 support after July 2014. But the hardware Nokia made is superb. I like the feel, display & look of the 920 better than anything on the market. Microsoft killed this sale - not Nokia.

    Windows 8 for PC's is selling worse than Vista. Not a good sign for a guy like me. I keep a cell phone 4 or 5 years - not 18 months.

    Windows: It's over | ZDNet

    Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed | ZDNet

    My wife is crazy about the Note 2 but I'm leery. It seems to invite thieves and pickpockets.

    Someone mentioned the Nexus 4 in this thread and that's a good idea if I can find one. I live in SE Asia and they're hard to find. I trust Google to get it right. I already know how to use that phone because it operates like Chrome.

    I was favorably inclined to Nokia products but the uncertainty around Windows 8 killed the Lumia for me. They're selling a lot of the lower-end model Lumias where I live though. Maybe that's the plan for MS/Nokia. If it is - that makes sense.

    Maybe I'll be back for the Windows 9 roll-out. Thanks for the info.
    05-04-2013 06:08 AM
  21. Jaskys's Avatar
    Thanks everybody. I learned a lot shopping for cell phones this time. I've ruled out Lumia though due to MS's announcement about discontinuing WP8 support after July 2014. But the hardware Nokia made is superb. I like the feel, display & look of the 920 better than anything on the market. Microsoft killed this sale - not Nokia.

    Windows 8 for PC's is selling worse than Vista. Not a good sign for a guy like me. I keep a cell phone 4 or 5 years - not 18 months.

    Windows: It's over | ZDNet

    Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed | ZDNet

    My wife is crazy about the Note 2 but I'm leery. It seems to invite thieves and pickpockets.

    Someone mentioned the Nexus 4 in this thread and that's a good idea if I can find one. I live in SE Asia and they're hard to find. I trust Google to get it right. I already know how to use that phone because it operates like Chrome.

    I was favorably inclined to Nokia products but the uncertainty around Windows 8 killed the Lumia for me. They're selling a lot of the lower-end model Lumias where I live though. Maybe that's the plan for MS/Nokia. If it is - that makes sense.

    Maybe I'll be back for the Windows 9 roll-out. Thanks for the info.
    Lol epic troll, couldn't stop laughing, great one buddy ;).
    05-04-2013 06:29 AM
  22. chezm's Avatar
    Fair assessment from someone on the outside looking in. I haven't and don't plan to migrate to Windows 8 anytime soon since W7 works perfectly.

    From sources all over, Microsoft will stop support for WP8 next year...but that doesn't mean upcoming fw WP8.1 won't be supported...which is considered a major overhaul of the struggling OS.

    With that said, you wouldn't want latest FW running on 2 yr old HW anyway as it may not handle it correctly due to constraints (iPhone 4 running iOS6).

    Good luck with google\ANDROID. it may be exactly what you're looking for.

    Thanks everybody. I learned a lot shopping for cell phones this time. I've ruled out Lumia though due to MS's announcement about discontinuing WP8 support after July 2014. But the hardware Nokia made is superb. I like the feel, display & look of the 920 better than anything on the market. Microsoft killed this sale - not Nokia.

    Windows 8 for PC's is selling worse than Vista. Not a good sign for a guy like me. I keep a cell phone 4 or 5 years - not 18 months.

    Windows: It's over | ZDNet

    Five reasons why Windows 8 has failed | ZDNet

    My wife is crazy about the Note 2 but I'm leery. It seems to invite thieves and pickpockets.

    Someone mentioned the Nexus 4 in this thread and that's a good idea if I can find one. I live in SE Asia and they're hard to find. I trust Google to get it right. I already know how to use that phone because it operates like Chrome.

    I was favorably inclined to Nokia products but the uncertainty around Windows 8 killed the Lumia for me. They're selling a lot of the lower-end model Lumias where I live though. Maybe that's the plan for MS/Nokia. If it is - that makes sense.

    Maybe I'll be back for the Windows 9 roll-out. Thanks for the info.
    05-04-2013 10:27 AM
  23. ag1986's Avatar
    The cheapest way to get a Nexus 4 is to find a friend or relative in the US who can buy and bring one back. But it also launched on the Play Store in Singapore, but I've heard it's very expensive compared to the US price (that's par for the course in SG though ;) )
    05-04-2013 11:01 AM
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