07-13-2013 05:31 PM
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  1. Exhibit13's Avatar
    I have been dealing with my POS HTC 8x patiently waiting ever since it was announced a couple months ago and now it is finally coming but now today after seeing the price I am going to pass on it. I really thought it would be $400 but $530? I don't understand if this is basically a variant of the 920 (which sold brand new for $450 on ATT) minus the wireless charging, minus 16gb storage and 8 months later what happened? One last point of reference is the nokia lumia 521 for $130, is the 925 really more than 4 times better than the 521 because it costs more than 4 times the price! And so my crappy 8x marches on........
    07-10-2013 05:00 PM
  2. echoshizzle's Avatar
    I think it's a high price. Really should be at the most $499, in my opinion. I'm thinking Nokia didn't cut T-Mobile a break on the phone like they did AT&T.

    If the 1020 is really $600 MSRP, then this is totally way to high for this phone. We'll see.

    The 925 still looks like a very nice device.
    07-10-2013 05:40 PM
  3. WP8fan's Avatar
    It is a flagship phone and has the higher price because of it's overall look and feel. It's sleek and sexy. But I do think it should be about $30 less since the 1020 will be around $600.
    07-10-2013 06:29 PM
  4. drbanks's Avatar
    Try paying full freight for an iPhone, and the price they're asking for the 1020 doesn't sound so bad.
    DynamicRam likes this.
    07-10-2013 06:34 PM
  5. Musicman247's Avatar
    Buy from the MS store. They should have it cheaper.

    Also, complaining about $30 is silly.
    07-10-2013 06:38 PM
  6. Exhibit13's Avatar
    Try paying full freight for an iPhone, and the price they're asking for the 1020 doesn't sound so bad.
    No one said the 1020 is over priced, if it is really $600 it is great and I would rather have the 1020 for the extra $70 but I am with t-mo-blo. I just think the 925 is overpriced by at least $100 considering it is a midrange phone (1020 is the new high end)
    07-10-2013 06:44 PM
  7. Exhibit13's Avatar
    Buy from the MS store. They should have it cheaper.

    Also, complaining about $30 is silly.
    I will have to check there as there is one 20mins from me, it isn't $30 I am complaining about for the record it is about $100
    07-10-2013 06:46 PM
  8. Exhibit13's Avatar
    I think it's a high price. Really should be at the most $499, in my opinion. I'm thinking Nokia didn't cut T-Mobile a break on the phone like they did AT&T.

    If the 1020 is really $600 MSRP, then this is totally way to high for this phone. We'll see.

    The 925 still looks like a very nice device.
    I agree but I don't think the problem is nokia I think it is t-mo-blo, look at the nexus 4 for example. It is supposed to sell for 350 (and does everywhere except t-mo-blo) and they were trying to sell it for something like $500

    It appears they are gouging their custos on phones now because they aren't making as much on monthly service as they were.
    07-10-2013 06:49 PM
  9. drbanks's Avatar
    Fair trade. Comparing unlimited/unlimited/2GB/month plans, t-mo comes in around $40/month cheaper than the competition. You've got that $150 price difference covered in four months.
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    07-10-2013 06:54 PM
  10. Exhibit13's Avatar
    Fair trade. Comparing unlimited/unlimited/2GB/month plans, t-mo comes in around $40/month cheaper than the competition. You've got that $150 price difference covered in four months.
    You are arguing a totally different point there that isn't valid here, I am discussing the hardware not the service. Since you brought it up though you should attribute monthly service fee to coverage, ie you get what you pay for. Verizon costs the most but has the best network coverage, att is second best coverage and their prices reflect that being slightly cheaper than VZ, Sprint is a definite third as far as coverage and their prices are also third, tmobile has the worst system for coverage of the three and is the cheapest. So I know at this point your thinking, well then why do you have tmo, Right? I only really am ever in the populated areas, in fact most of the time I am at home. I live in northern California and I rarely travel, when I do maybe once a month I deal with tmobile having no coverage there as I am only there for a day or so and the monthly savings are worth not having coverage sometimes.
    07-10-2013 07:33 PM
  11. rdubmu's Avatar
    sprint also has some of the worst data coverage, T-Mobile has them beat for the most part from what I have experienced in Seattle, Western WA, Las Vegas and Southern California.
    Wyn6 and wpguy like this.
    07-10-2013 08:09 PM
  12. Residing's Avatar
    I have been dealing with my POS HTC 8x patiently waiting ever since it was announced a couple months ago and now it is finally coming but now today after seeing the price I am going to pass on it. I really thought it would be $400 but $530? I don't understand if this is basically a variant of the 920 (which sold brand new for $450 on ATT) minus the wireless charging, minus 16gb storage and 8 months later what happened? One last point of reference is the nokia lumia 521 for $130, is the 925 really more than 4 times better than the 521 because it costs more than 4 times the price! And so my crappy 8x marches on........
    I think the price is just about right...you are paying for the Nokia's imaging technology, Nokia apps, and a fantastic design, among other great things. The price is not the MSRP (as Nokia MSRP devices are quite expensive - just check Amazon for some of their Symbian devices); If T-Mobile cannot offer a more affordable price for you, it may be best that you stick with the 8x or a just a less expensive device. The price may drop to the $400 range you desire several months from now.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    07-10-2013 08:11 PM
  13. drbanks's Avatar
    I'm arguing total cost of ownership of the phone. If you, like me, are reasonably covered by t-mo, then the difference in tco makes t-mobile seriously cheaper, even though they're selling at $150 more.

    Of course, if you can buy the same phone off-contract at Verizon or att, and you know it'll be compatible with t-mo's bands, then that's an even lower tco.

    But the 925 is t-mo exclusive, so we're still talking about a seriously lower tco for 2 years, 925 on t-mo vs. 928 on Verizon.
    07-10-2013 08:17 PM
  14. mmar1974's Avatar
    don't think so... 530 for this particular phone is pretty good... iPhone 5 is over 800$! and in my mind the 925 is much more phone than the iPhone5
    drbanks likes this.
    07-10-2013 08:37 PM
  15. falconeight's Avatar
    Price seems spot on to me.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    07-10-2013 09:57 PM
  16. Exhibit13's Avatar
    sprint also has some of the worst data coverage, T-Mobile has them beat for the most part from what I have experienced in Seattle, Western WA, Las Vegas and Southern California.
    I agree there and that is the reason I left sprint. their coverage was great for my needs but their data speeds were slower than slow. Maybe in late 2014 when their system updates are all done I will give them a chance again but for the next year and a half I cant even consider their network because data is far more important to me than voice.
    07-10-2013 11:09 PM
  17. Exhibit13's Avatar
    don't think so... 530 for this particular phone is pretty good... iPhone 5 is over 800$! and in my mind the 925 is much more phone than the iPhone5
    While I agree $800 is insane for an iphone, I will say apple is in a unique situation that nokia isn't. Apple can put out anything and charge double what it should cost and it will sell. I know it is insane but apple has always been in that situation, or at least has been for the last 15 years.
    07-10-2013 11:14 PM
  18. Exhibit13's Avatar
    I'm arguing total cost of ownership of the phone. If you, like me, are reasonably covered by t-mo, then the difference in tco makes t-mobile seriously cheaper, even though they're selling at $150 more.

    Of course, if you can buy the same phone off-contract at Verizon or att, and you know it'll be compatible with t-mo's bands, then that's an even lower tco.

    But the 925 is t-mo exclusive, so we're still talking about a seriously lower tco for 2 years, 925 on t-mo vs. 928 on Verizon.
    And that is my point, you can buy an unlocked phone elsewhere and use it on t-mo. If the 1020 is only $600, I will be going that route
    07-10-2013 11:19 PM
  19. trwrt's Avatar
    You're talking about $530 spread out over two years, right? $50 down and 24x$20 monthly payments. Well wouldn't that be a higher total that what the phone is worth today, just because of the time value of money? I notice though that they don't give you any price break if you pay up front and their prices don't seem out of line, so whatever finance charge is built into the price can't be very big.
    07-11-2013 01:19 AM
  20. ramonq619's Avatar
    Its pretty high for the specs it has but that won't stop me from getting it :)
    07-11-2013 01:43 AM
  21. Exhibit13's Avatar
    You're talking about $530 spread out over two years, right? $50 down and 24x$20 monthly payments. Well wouldn't that be a higher total that what the phone is worth today, just because of the time value of money? I notice though that they don't give you any price break if you pay up front and their prices don't seem out of line, so whatever finance charge is built into the price can't be very big.
    either way it is $530, if it makes you feel better to look at it as "only $20 a month" I guess that is great for you but I choose to look at it as the total real cost, because in the end that is what I will have paid for the phone. I wish there was a discount of 10% or something for paying up front because I can do that and it would make me feel better about the 925 but there isn't. Oh well, tomorrow is the big 1020 announcement, my fingers are crossed for it to be only $600 and also have t-mo freqs in it for LTE and HSPA+ so I can enjoy unlocked goodness!
    07-11-2013 02:16 AM
  22. trwrt's Avatar
    I'm just saying if you want to compare it to the $450 that the 920 goes for, that's $450 today vs $530 spread over two years. Presumably you could take the $480 and collect interest on it so that ultimately you'll have "paid" less than $530, if bank accounts actually paid any interest these days. Or you could pay down a credit card with it or whatever. Money today is always worth more than money tomorrow (unless we get into a deflationary spiral).
    07-11-2013 02:48 AM
  23. iBandar's Avatar
    Its always high when its new, will drop in a month or so. But it isn't that high which would stop you from buying one if you are interested.
    07-11-2013 07:43 AM
  24. Musicman247's Avatar
    Its always high when its new, will drop in a month or so. But it isn't that high which would stop you from buying one if you are interested.
    That doesn't seem to be the case for the 920. It's still selling for its launch price of $449 nine months later.

    I'll be calling the Microsoft store on Friday to see if thy have pricing information. I called yesterday and the person I talked to didn't have availability or price information. Hopefully it will be like the 810 where TMO sold it for over $500 and the MS store sold it for $100 less.
    Jake_M likes this.
    07-11-2013 09:09 AM
  25. metalchick719's Avatar
    I don't think $530 is bad for the 925 at all. I paid a little more than that for my unlocked Rogers 920. Got it in May and that phone's been out since November, so think of it this way - a phone that was already out for six months and that was no longer an exclusive was still more money than a brand new 925, which is a T-Mobile exclusive in the US. Regardless of the fact that the 925 has half the storage, I think that's a pretty damn good deal. Had I not gotten my 920, I would have been all over the 925 and would have paid for it upfront, probably on release day. Anywhere else, the phone probably would be more than $700.
    Marc Elkadi likes this.
    07-11-2013 09:18 AM
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