11-08-2014 09:24 AM
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  1. abduz's Avatar
    The 920, when released, was one of the most advanced phones ever. First with an optical image stabilisation making it the best cameraphone at the time, first with wireless charging, first with supersensitive display allowing it to be used with gloves, one of the first with 60Hz for fluid animations... It was then updated to receive Glance and Double Tap, which were unheard of with any other phone than Lumias.

    It sure was bulky, heavy, had an old SoC and tended to burn through the battery and overheat, but it was, and still is, one hell of a phone.

    The 930 is, by today's standards, unnecessarily heavy and bulky, like the 920 was, but far from as advanced. It is even a regression in many areas. 32gb were impressive 2 years ago, not any more; its camera is excellent but not miles above the competition any more, its has no Glance when Androids are getting it, it far outweights other phones without boasting better battery life...

    To me the 930 is not a successor to the 920 by any means, other than marketing. Luckily, my 920 is still rock solid and I won't change it anytime soon.
    I completely understand you but just look at all other device updates being released, they are not leaps and bounds advanced like they were when they were first introduced; they simply improved on what existed and didn't fix what wasn't broken. We've reached a point where there is only so much they can improve on with upgrades. We still have all the features the 920 had and more.

    I was actually not going to buy the 930 due to all this negativity I have been reading online but last week I got a call from a local dealer that had a sealed package for $500, this was due to Nokia giving it to an employee who already owned the 1520, so he put it up for sale. At $500 I figured I had nothing to lose by buying it. To my surprise, it wasn't as bulky as it's made out to be especially considering, it's a 5inch device with a better camera, OIS, wireless charging; the profile is as thin as iPhone 5s with a slight hump on the back. If the iPhone 6+ proved anything, it's that thin phones aren't necessary, yes it doesn't need to be THAT thin and it simply could be a little thinner but then we'd need to sacrifice some of the mentioned features (which I personally think are worth the sacrifice), just to be thinner. Yes it's unfortunate glance didn't make the cut, but luckily I tried it out and never used it on my 920 anyways, so it wasn't a deal breaker for me at all.

    With the 930, we still have one of the best phone cameras in the market, probably second only to the 1020, we still have image stabilization (which most flagships don't), we still have wireless charging (which most flagships don't), we still have supersensitive display on an HD screen allowing it to be used with gloves (which most flagships don't), we still have double tap (which most flagships don't). What needed to be improved upon was and what didn't need fixing remained.

    We do get a much better camera, with a better lens, wireless charger in the box, Motion sensor, slightly thinner design, weighs less, first device to have surround recording, HD screen, capable of 4k recording with Denim, aluminium quality build, much faster processor (though not up to this very day standard, it's still much faster and hey look at the iPhone 6 that even just has 1GB ram; sometimes things don't need to be the most advanced in order to function). On that note, yes I do wish it could have been dust/waterproof and it wouldn't hurt to have 64GB on board or expandable memory but it's definitely an upgrade. If you haven't tried it out yet and love your 920, you definitely would love 930.

    Don't get me wrong, I understand you completely because I was on the same boat and even though I was getting it for a great price, I still hesitated but after using it, I'm really glad I did upgrade and these little differences actually make a big difference. At the end of the day, no phone is perfect and each will lack something you wish was included.

    If the reasons above are all that's holding you back from
    10-26-2014 01:51 PM
  2. JamesPTao's Avatar
    I like the "bulkiness" of the 920. The weight feels good and it doesn't feel like a cheap toy in the hand. I am not a fan of ultrathin phones. You need some thickness to have a phone feel comfortable to hold. I prefer phones like this.
    abduz likes this.
    10-26-2014 02:12 PM
  3. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    OK, so I started this topic and it's been 4 months since i have Lumia 930.
    I see lots of people still has not changed their minds.

    I will tell you this. GLANCE SUPPORT. Guys you will easily get over this cra** it's not a deal breaker by any means. Yes I loved it too, but didn't have it for months now and do not miss it, especially after how 930 had become so great for me.

    I loved 920, but 930 by any means was the right follow up. It works like 920 did but it's faster more future proved, and not fat or bulky, C'mon 920 was really one of the "biggest and heaviest" phones at a time and 930 definitely feels much better. Yes the screen is bigger and even with my big palms it doesn't feel as easy to handle as 920 but it's not a deal breaker either. I you loved 920 you will feel exactly at home. The same stories with screen bugs and some other little issues as with 920 are already fixed with constant updates give by Microsoft. The camera is better than 920 and battery life is the same which is fine. Build quality is fantastic but as it has metal frame, the case is needed (BTW check FUSION Bumper gel case! on ebay). The price went down quicker then with 920 and is now available from 350/$399 so stop moaning about this being released late because the price adjust that fact!

    In Windows Phone world there really isn't a better smartphone (1520 will be too big for 90% of people) and NO there isn't any 1030 or better flagship on the way until Windows 10 comes out) as we know all the WP smartphone gets the whole lines refreshed after new OS is being released (check the story after WP7, WP8 and 8.1).

    SO my best advice. Either get 930 or wait till at least June/July 2015 for a Windows 10 Lumia 940 or hopefully finally some kind of Lumia ONE for all the carriers (my dream), but don't think that the next flagship at the time of release will have the best specs in the market, because it never happened in so many years, so my best bet is that it will stay this way, that any next flagship will always have that 900 (or whatever Snapdragon will have by then) and not 901 or so, (which will still be more than "nailing it on Lumia). Otherwise just go with Android if you're this spec creep like many out there, but that's just plain stupid.
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    10-26-2014 07:38 PM
  4. P1ng0fDeath's Avatar
    Glance may not be big deal for you, but it might be for other users. Pretty much like ffc, flash, big or small screen and most features. 930 is hella phone, but it'd be nicer for me if it had glance support
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    10-26-2014 08:25 PM
  5. JamesPTao's Avatar
    I like glance a lot, at the same time I love amoled screens.. Hmm. Tough choice
    10-27-2014 12:15 AM
  6. wasim sallam's Avatar
    I also have a lumia 920 for almost 2 years.
    I was thinking about getting the Lumia 930 when it came out.
    I know you can't compare 930 to 920. it's way better with more feature and better design. and i really love it.
    Lumia 930 is getting more feature in every upd
    but believe me, Glance Screen is something I can't live without.
    beside I'm not a hard gamer. so 920 is giving me everything I want in smartphone. and it works just well.
    I would take the first flagship with Glance.
    10-27-2014 12:59 AM
  7. abduz's Avatar
    I like glance a lot, at the same time I love amoled screens.. Hmm. Tough choice
    Try turning off Glance for a week and just double tap to see the time or notifications....that should help you make a decision. The HD Amoled screen is simply gorgeous. On that note, I find it odd that MS/Nokia haven't tried to find a work around this, since that's one of the main features that most ppl point out for not upgrading to a 930.
    JamesPTao likes this.
    10-27-2014 07:33 AM
  8. FearL0rd's Avatar
    I wish 930 worked on TMOBILE
    10-27-2014 07:39 AM
  9. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I like glance a lot, at the same time I love amoled screens.. Hmm. Tough choice
    Sounds like the 1020 is for you then! You get Glance and AMOLED. You also get that bad *** camera ;)
    10-27-2014 07:43 AM
  10. Grodelj's Avatar
    Yesterday I went from 920 to 930. It is a very good upgrade, especially because the price for 930 is good at the moment. I thought that I would miss glance..but I don't:)

    Phone is snappier, camera is way better, the display is gorgeus. And another thing: battery is awesome if I compare it to 920, I thought that it would be the same.
    10-27-2014 08:46 AM
  11. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    One thing that many people forget, when "comparing" battery life, is that if you are comparing to a phone that you (or someone else) has had for a while, especially a year or more, then the battery on that phone has certainly lost capacity.
    It's just the way lithium's are and it's one reason why I try very hard to own phones, only, that have a replaceable battery.

    :)
    Fred
    10-27-2014 01:16 PM
  12. slyronit's Avatar
    One thing that many people forget, when "comparing" battery life, is that if you are comparing to a phone that you (or someone else) has had for a while, especially a year or more, then the battery on that phone has certainly lost capacity.
    It's just the way lithium's are and it's one reason why I try very hard to own phones, only, that have a replaceable battery.

    :)
    Fred
    I tthought all Nokia phones had replaceable batteries, just not user replaceable. I got my 920 fitted with a new battery last week from the Nokia service centre.

    930 is a no for me, because I can't and won't live without Glance.
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    10-27-2014 01:32 PM
  13. Grodelj's Avatar
    One thing that many people forget, when "comparing" battery life, is that if you are comparing to a phone that you (or someone else) has had for a while, especially a year or more, then the battery on that phone has certainly lost capacity.
    It's just the way lithium's are and it's one reason why I try very hard to own phones, only, that have a replaceable battery.

    :)
    Fred
    I know that but my 920 was only a month old (got new one on warranty).
    10-27-2014 01:37 PM
  14. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Well yeah, if you send the phone in, of course :P
    It's so much easier if you're out and about, for a couple of days, traveling or whatever, to simply pop out the battery, when it runs low, and pop in a recharged one.

    I have Glance on my 830 and tried it for a week. Didn't do anything for me. :)


    :)
    Fred



    I tthought all Nokia phones had replaceable batteries, just not user replaceable. I got my 920 fitted with a new battery last week from the Nokia service centre.

    930 is a no for me, because I can't and won't live without Glance.
    10-27-2014 02:02 PM
  15. nikosxri's Avatar
    What if you leave lockscreen always on to counteract the absence of glance screen ?
    Whats the battery drainage then?
    Has anyone tried it?
    abduz likes this.
    10-29-2014 06:18 AM
  16. abduz's Avatar
    What if you leave lockscreen always on to counteract the absence of glance screen ?
    Whats the battery drainage then?
    Has anyone tried it?
    Loll Im pretty sure that will drain your battery or burnout your screen quicker... that said, i haven't tried it, so cant say for sure.
    11-08-2014 06:26 AM
  17. Ruined's Avatar
    Would buy it if a version with at&t lte bands was available.
    11-08-2014 09:24 AM
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