1. Marcelino Caze's Avatar
    Hello, all! My first post here.

    I had a Lumia 720 about one year ago. I absolutely adored the pictures i took with it, but WP8 was still lacking as an reliable OS and I decided to switch back to Android. Now that WP 8.1 is here, things seem to have progressed well and Im considering getting a Lumia again, specially because of the camera quality, which I think is not a match for any Android, except S5 maybe.

    Due to black friday, i can get a 930 for only a few more money than the 830. Problem is, I spent the last 24h extensively looking for photo comparisons between the two phones, and to my surprise I came to like 830's pictures much more. They seem to be sharper and clearer, which is a personal preference, while the 930's seem to be too soft. I know Denim update is coming. My question is: do you think the update alone is going to improve 930's "softness"? Im afraid of not getting the 930 because of it, seeing as it is a better phone overall, just to see an improvement when Denim comes and then regretting not buying the 930.

    What do you think? Should I risk and get something Im not really impressed with right now, or go for the 830 and not look back? Any input will be welcome!

    Thanks in advance!
    11-29-2014 09:06 AM
  2. wpfan1995's Avatar
    Short advice in points-
    1.Obviously,Lumia 930 has better specs than Lumia 830 as it is a high-end phone.
    2.When its come to camera clearity,I personally think that Lumia 930 has true colour tone and better sharpness than Lumia 830.
    3.And finally,Yes "Lumia Denim" firmware makes some camera improvements and performance better(faster),Based on your location firmware updates will be rolled out through your mobile carrier.

    Here are some links that will help you to decide yourself.(I personally recommend to buy Lumia 930.)
    Lumia Denim Features Start Rolling Out to Lumia 930 - Softpedia
    O2: Lumia Denim update for most devices not expected until early 2015 | Windows Central
    A closer look at Rich Capture, the best feature on Lumia Camera | Windows Central
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    11-29-2014 10:01 AM
  3. Marty89's Avatar
    830 is better in low light.
    11-29-2014 10:18 AM
  4. Idan Cohen's Avatar
    830 is better in low light.
    its better only because the Auto mode is seriously broken. if you tweak just a little bit of the imaging properties then L930 beats 830 and 920(which low-light picturing was a strong selling point.)
    11-29-2014 12:34 PM
  5. Marty89's Avatar
    It's not about broken auto mode but aperture. 830 has better aperture f2.2, 930 has f2.4. You can get great results with 930 too, but you have to try harder than with 830 or 920.
    11-29-2014 01:59 PM
  6. MicrosoftRulesAll's Avatar
    How about HTC :)
    11-29-2014 02:02 PM
  7. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    i tried 930, has a purple hue in lowlight. And its grainy. I cant see where its better than 830.
    But maybe we should wait for both devices using Lumia Camera v5 plus Denim. In the moment, you cant really compare the two hence the fact 930 hasnt got Denim.
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    11-29-2014 02:04 PM
  8. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    Camera on the 830 is no slouch. Yes, 930 has better specs. I have the 830. One issue that I see is that artificial light conditions such as lamps, overhead lights can really affect its performance.
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    11-29-2014 02:07 PM
  9. arnark's Avatar
    I had 920 and now 930 and I can tell you that 930 takes way way sharper and better pictures in daylight and lowlight than 830 can ever take. You have to think about that 830 has denim and that makes alot of diffrence when it comes to take pictures in "automode" . Yes if you take pictures in automode you would think that 830 takes way better low light pictures ,but that is how oz progress the pictures (denim) which makes them look so good. Given the price diffrence I think it's a no brainer in my books at least. Not only for the pictures but also the specs wise. I would also advice you to take a look at the pictures in the pictures forums 830 and 930 .

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...mia-930-a.html
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...mia-830-a.html
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    11-29-2014 02:19 PM
  10. Marty89's Avatar
    But for good picture in low light with 930 you need longer exposure or higher ISO.
    11-29-2014 02:23 PM
  11. Marcelino Caze's Avatar
    I would also advice you to take a look at the pictures in the pictures forums 830 and 930 .
    I actually saw every single picture on those threads. I agree 930's pictures look better overall, but 830's are sharper and more appealing to me. Hard to explain, I guess.
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    11-29-2014 04:23 PM
  12. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    I say it again: Different firmware! Wait for denim and then compare again!
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    11-29-2014 04:37 PM
  13. arnark's Avatar
    I actually saw every single picture on those threads. I agree 930's pictures look better overall, but 830's are sharper and more appealing to me. Hard to explain, I guess.
    it's because of the Denim mostly at least. It's the same with the Iphone and 830 (denim) they take GREAT auto pictures, it's cause of the OS. The colors and everything look great. But keep in mind 930 will get Denim and 4k video which i'm really looking forward too but 830 won't have it ever .

    For those who have 830 I'm not talking down the phone , it's a great phone with great build .But I just feel like with the price diffrence it's doesn't really compare. Given the specs...
    11-29-2014 04:53 PM
  14. belodion's Avatar
    Also, the difference between f2.2 and f2.4 is only a quarter of a stop.

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    11-29-2014 04:57 PM
  15. belodion's Avatar
    How about HTC :)
    Yes, good in low light because of sensor pixel size.

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    11-29-2014 04:59 PM
  16. psiu_glen's Avatar
    its better only because the Auto mode is seriously broken. if you tweak just a little bit of the imaging properties then L930 beats 830 and 920(which low-light picturing was a strong selling point.)
    Depends on what you mean by "low light", and what the subject is (ie, is tweaking possible).

    Fwiw, I have the 929 which does NOT have Cyan - that was rumored to bring better low light ability. That being said, in dim indoor light, to extreme low light (like one night light illuminating your kids), it sucks versus my 928. Straight up sucks. Low ISO. High ISO. Long exposures. Doesn't matter. Dim, grainy, noisy, bandy colorless shots.

    Tweaking? With a 4 year old and 1 year old? AHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Daylight shots are great. Reframing is phenomenal. Regular indoor light is fine.

    But dim indoor light...I dunno. I haven't used the 830, but it certainly seems more like an evolution of the 920.
    11-29-2014 05:07 PM
  17. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/lumiad...rms-microsoft/

    That clears up everything. Why didn't MS say that before???



    830 got denim, but not the DENIM IMAGING GOODIES!!!!! Aha!

    So in this case it makes sense to compare them now!
    But good to see that 830 will become EVEN BETTER then now !!!! :D
    11-30-2014 03:59 AM
  18. rubenwidjaja's Avatar
    930 photos too much (inbuild) noise reduction filters, yes it will less grain but made the photos not sharp. Still its sensor and pixels still better than 830 but its inbuild noise reduction filters made the image looks soft.

    in other hand, 830 not coming with (inbuild) noise reduction filters, make its photos sharp, bring more detail but more grain.

    I think it's not about Denim update, 930 just get the inbuild noise reduction filters and 830 not.
    11-30-2014 04:21 AM
  19. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Inbuild reduction filters??? Source?
    11-30-2014 04:22 AM
  20. rubenwidjaja's Avatar
    Inbuild reduction filters??? Source?
    it's easy to see that
    check this 930 vs 830 comparison Lumia 930 and Lumia 830 PureView camera hands-on | NokNok.tv
    click the image to download full resolution and zoom maks then compare it
    it will clear that 930 pass the inbuild noise reduction and 830 not

    hands down if the inbuild noise reduction for 930 will be better when denim update coming but I'll be sure if the inbuld noise reduction for 930 got remove, the image will more sharp than 830
    11-30-2014 04:37 AM
  21. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Every camera got noise reduction! And every camera is set up different.
    11-30-2014 04:47 AM
  22. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Its called algorithm :)
    11-30-2014 04:48 AM
  23. Nikita Van Vinci's Avatar
    Lumia Denim OTA update will bring "Lumia Camera 5", confirms Microsoft | NPU

    That clears up everything. Why didn't MS say that before???



    830 got denim, but not the DENIM IMAGING GOODIES!!!!! Aha!

    So in this case it makes sense to compare them now!
    But good to see that 830 will become EVEN BETTER then now !!!! :D
    For now we don't know if Lumia 830 have improved Denim algorithm for imaging or not. MS just mentioned that for now it doesn't have Lumia camera goodies (such as dynamic flash, 4K video, auto HDR)
    I think we have to wait for the update & then compare it :)
    11-30-2014 04:40 PM
  24. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Yes that's correct. Today they finally clarified everything!
    The whole story stinks but anyway, we get soon, hopefully. And finally.

    On IFA it sounded like we get new algorithm AND new Lumia camera. So of course I thought "well, camera app is missing but at least algorithm should be the new one".

    But I'm happy to get a new app on Christmas AND have (hopefully) even better quality pictures.
    11-30-2014 04:47 PM

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