10-26-2013 03:34 PM
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  1. Kellzea's Avatar
    Maybe they are. Microsoft makes $1 billion+ a year directly off of Android, but so far WP has been a big money pit.



    Well it seems that only 3.7% of smartphone users agree with you.
    if "the world" means "the usa market" then yeah sure.
    10-21-2013 01:20 PM
  2. Kellzea's Avatar
    There are 3rd party RD apps already, like the excellent Remote Desktop mentioned above. As big as Microsoft is, even they they have finite resources. Out of all the things they need for WP, native RD should be on the bottom of the list.
    this. This x1,000.
    10-21-2013 01:22 PM
  3. tgp's Avatar
    if "the world" means "the usa market" then yeah sure.
    I'm not sure what you mean. WP market share worldwide was last reported as 3.7%.
    10-21-2013 01:39 PM
  4. Boris Lozac's Avatar
    So this is like a TeamViewer kind of app, anything to get excited about?
    10-21-2013 02:08 PM
  5. marcomura's Avatar
    This isn't something you need to get exited about. This isn't an app for kids, hipsters or whatever.

    The RDP protocol is the NATIVE windows remote desktop protocol, and it's something essentials for everyone who administrates servers. TeamViewer is not a valid alternative. Native means that it's already available on every windows (desktop, I don't know RT) installation; no needs to install anything to make it working.

    You may try defending microsoft in every pitiful way, but the simple fact that they released this essential (for those who really use it) tool for ios and android leaving THEIR OWN operating system aside is shameful. No excuses.
    I don't care if there are third parties implementations. There were for ios and android too, no justifications for releasing an official one for them first.
    10-21-2013 03:02 PM
  6. MikeSo's Avatar
    This isn't something you need to get exited about. This isn't an app for kids, hipsters or whatever.

    The RDP protocol is the NATIVE windows remote desktop protocol, and it's something essentials for everyone who administrates servers. TeamViewer is not a valid alternative. Native means that it's already available on every windows (desktop, I don't know RT) installation; no needs to install anything to make it working.
    The Remote Desktop app linked to in an earlier post does not need anything extra either, it's a Remote Desktop app that uses the native windows RD protocol on port 3389 (default, you can of course change it) to control any PC that has remote desktop enabled. Why should MS spend time and resources on developing this, when there is a GREAT (really, try it... it's fantastic) alternative out there for such a miniscule niche product (and I say that as someone that uses RD on my Lumia 521 every day!) that will do nothing to build the user base? They provide it for Android and iOS because they have larger user bases on their tablets. There are SO MANY other things WP needs before this.
    10-21-2013 06:38 PM
  7. marcomura's Avatar
    It's useless discussing with people like you... you would defend Microsoft even if they would release a new WP build that prevents you from calling to anyone, and you'd say "this is great because it makes people meeting face to face".
    Think whatever you want, be happy whatever MS do and continue supporting MS for their bull****s.
    Others and I are pissed off about this and you aren't going to change that.
    And I really hope that something will make MS regret for screwing this up.
    10-21-2013 06:58 PM
  8. Kebero's Avatar
    Some of you in this thread need to relax. MS didn't do this primarily for iPhone and Android phones. As has already been stated here and elsewhere, the app (purchases, BTW, mostly developed from someone else) targets tablets. Every Windows computer and tablet (this includes RT) has mstsc.exe (remote desktop client) on it. There is even a Modern UI client available in the store.

    I use it quite a bit on my Surface RT. Would I use it on a phone? Maybe, but I'd prefer the RSAT suite - unless I had a phablet. 😉
    10-21-2013 07:02 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    It's useless discussing with people like you... you would defend Microsoft even if they would release a new WP build that prevents you from calling to anyone, and you'd say "this is great because it makes people meeting face to face".
    I kind of agree with you, but I might have been a bit more diplomatic! I do feel that the more passionate WP fans go too far in defending Microsoft in anything they do or don't do. Let me put this thought out there: how can anyone rise up in anger at Google for not providing official WP apps for their (Google's) services, and yet defend Microsoft when they do it, to their own platform? I never understood this.

    And FWIW, plenty of other developers do the same thing: Facebook, Instagram, Flipboard, Vine, and most major banks.
    10-21-2013 07:39 PM
  10. Psycmeistr's Avatar
    Maybe they are. Microsoft makes $1 billion+ a year directly off of Android, but so far WP has been a big money pit.



    Well it seems that only 3.7% of smartphone users agree with you.
    Well, in my opinion, it's a result of poor marketing, not a poor platform.
    10-21-2013 07:43 PM
  11. MikeSo's Avatar
    It's useless discussing with people like you... you would defend Microsoft even if they would release a new WP build that prevents you from calling to anyone, and you'd say "this is great because it makes people meeting face to face".
    Dude, check my history in this forum and you'd see I'm definitely not a "defend MS at all costs" guy. I have plenty of things to criticize them for. But I'm not going to criticize them for not allocating resources to something of as little importance as a native RD client for WP. Really.
    And can you at least LOOK at the Remote Desktop client that already exists in the app store? It will do exactly what you're asking for, until MS makes their own. They could just buy that app though, and this would all be solved right away...
    Last edited by MikeSo; 10-21-2013 at 09:52 PM.
    10-21-2013 09:40 PM
  12. gothfebrio's Avatar
    Dude, check my history in this forum and you'd see I'm definitely not a "defend MS at all costs" guy. I have plenty of things to criticize them for. But I'm not going to criticize them for not allocating resources to something of as little importance as a native RD client for WP. Really.
    And can you at least LOOK at the Remote Desktop client that already exists in the app store? It will do exactly what you're asking for, until MS makes their own. They could just buy that app though, and this would all be solved right away...
    You do know google play store and apple itunes app store does have 3rd party remote desktop app as well? and they can control which device may get the app. Ive been using(bought) the remote desktop app from the store everyday even Im in the exact same house, just downstairs, and i still prefer microsoft release its own app for WP. windows phone to windows sounds more...u know...
    10-21-2013 11:49 PM
  13. despertador's Avatar
    That feels like a slap in the face... What's going on in MS?!
    10-22-2013 12:15 AM
  14. chinesepiratefood's Avatar
    The iOS and Android app they released was developed by a company that Microsoft purchased. The Windows Phone version had to be developed from scratch.
    10-22-2013 12:21 AM
  15. MikeSo's Avatar
    You do know google play store and apple itunes app store does have 3rd party remote desktop app as well? and they can control which device may get the app. Ive been using(bought) the remote desktop app from the store everyday even Im in the exact same house, just downstairs, and i still prefer microsoft release its own app for WP. windows phone to windows sounds more...u know...
    I would PREFER that too. But the idea that this should in any way be a priority is ludicrous.
    10-22-2013 01:01 AM
  16. o0Nighthawk0o's Avatar
    This isn't something you need to get exited about. This isn't an app for kids, hipsters or whatever.

    The RDP protocol is the NATIVE windows remote desktop protocol, and it's something essentials for everyone who administrates servers. TeamViewer is not a valid alternative. Native means that it's already available on every windows (desktop, I don't know RT) installation; no needs to install anything to make it working.
    Contrary to what you have posted there is a lot more to running the native RDP on a network if you want or need to be able to really use it as a remote administration tool. There are ports to set up on the routers to be able to get through, there are major security issues that need to be considered such as using the default port or not and if you really want a port open on your firewalls. I, for one as a network administrator, do not like opening unnecessary ports so I only use Remote Desktop if I am connected to the same physical network.

    This is where TeamViewer comes in handy and is a perfectly viable alternative. Easier setup, more secure and can be used by any of my clients with no setup requirements for them as there is a stand alone client that they simply run and give me the ID and Password to connect. Simple, painless and has never failed me.

    So even if MS releases Remote Desktop for the Windows Phone I would only use it in very limited situations.
    10-22-2013 06:20 AM
  17. gothfebrio's Avatar
    Contrary to what you have posted there is a lot more to running the native RDP on a network if you want or need to be able to really use it as a remote administration tool. There are ports to set up on the routers to be able to get through, there are major security issues that need to be considered such as using the default port or not and if you really want a port open on your firewalls. I, for one as a network administrator, do not like opening unnecessary ports so I only use Remote Desktop if I am connected to the same physical network.

    This is where TeamViewer comes in handy and is a perfectly viable alternative. Easier setup, more secure and can be used by any of my clients with no setup requirements for them as there is a stand alone client that they simply run and give me the ID and Password to connect. Simple, painless and has never failed me.

    So even if MS releases Remote Desktop for the Windows Phone I would only use it in very limited situations.
    so what youre saying is you dont mind the app is on the store because you dont use remote desktop outside of your local network.
    and youre using teamviewer to not access your own computer but to access your clients pcs.
    most of my client is using windows, and windows have this thing called Remote Assistance which you dont even need to download or set up anything.
    some people just prefer built in stuff.

    i think what they're trying to say is simply microsoft should make wp users feel special which i kinda agree, but dont mind atm. it is more of a preference.
    10-22-2013 08:37 AM
  18. Phone Guy 4567's Avatar
    That feels like a slap in the face... What's going on in MS?!
    Exactly.

    I tried the MS RD client on Android & IMO it isn't that great, but it doesn't matter because MS not releasing RD client on WP just looks bad. Most if not all 3rd party RD clients in the WP store are not free for the full version, MS could have easily purchased one of them and re-branded it. The argument that MS is writing the client from scratch doesn't hold water because of the ability they had to purchase an existing client. If MS true intention was for it to be used on tablets and not phones I find it hard to believe there was no way to limit which devices it can be installed or used properly on.
    10-26-2013 01:40 AM
  19. TechAbstract's Avatar
    This is bad marketing move by Microsoft. I work in IT but my co-workers get official Remote Desktop app before my WP8. Using 3rd party ConnectMe for now.
    Phone Guy 4567 likes this.
    10-26-2013 03:34 PM
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