12-10-2014 07:42 AM
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  1. PetrFodor's Avatar
    What I hate on Androids and love on Windows Phone is a simple fact that I understand the UI from the very beginning. At Android I get lost on every second screen because it feels to me very inconsistent and geeky.

    As a designer I also appreciate the look and feel of Lumia phones, it's simplicity and clear curves are much more elegant than e.g. Samsung phones.
    12-04-2014 06:41 AM
  2. Steve Adams's Avatar
    agreed. I love my 1020s chasis. You don't have to have the thinnest, because its harder to hold. the 1020 feels solid and substantial in your hand without being to big, but its not so small that its fumbing around in your hands all thd time.

    The windows UX is the best by far.
    12-04-2014 07:27 AM
  3. RavenSword's Avatar
    The surface pro 3 is the best tablet available. And arguably the best piece of computing tech available now regardless of segment. The power, convertability, features and the complete package uses the ipad as a door mat. Compared to the surface pro, the ipad is a childs toy. You can acutally be productive doing various things that the ipad can only dream about.

    I have an asus vivotab RT and this tablet is miles ahead of the ipad we have. Again, not even in the same ball park of the productivity you have on windows based tablets compared to IOS (fisher price).
    I think your a bit misguided on iOS and Mac OS. you can edit video and photos on iOS. Its probably still better on the surface, but you can still do it. Also, since when has flash EVER been a selling point? Its one of those old internet remnants that most would rather forget. And Mac can still do it, you just can't use safari. But you can just use chrome on the Mac.

    And how is iOS "fisher price"?

    Also, I keep hearing people using words like productivity and work when it comes to the surface and windows, but what about FUN? seriously, how is that enjoyable?

    I know were on a windows site and all, but we shouldn't spread misinformation. Instead, what about windows is better? We can discuss that. And how does productivity and work make it enjoyable to use? I care more about that then work
    12-04-2014 07:52 PM
  4. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    Flash does not work on IOS at all. not without some janky app to run it.

    and no, Flash does not suck considering approx. 90 percent of websites use it in some fashion. making viewing or whatever impossible on any mobile apple product.
    Macs don't run iOS.
    12-04-2014 10:26 PM
  5. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Macs don't run iOS.
    NO **** Sherlock.

    Captain Obvious to the rescue I was not talking about Desktop mac, I was talking about mobile apple products. Maybe you need to read what I said more closely.
    Last edited by Steve Adams; 12-05-2014 at 06:03 AM.
    12-05-2014 05:40 AM
  6. Steve Adams's Avatar
    I think your a bit misguided on iOS and Mac OS. you can edit video and photos on iOS. Its probably still better on the surface, but you can still do it. Also, since when has flash EVER been a selling point? Its one of those old internet remnants that most would rather forget. And Mac can still do it, you just can't use safari. But you can just use chrome on the Mac.

    And how is iOS "fisher price"?

    Also, I keep hearing people using words like productivity and work when it comes to the surface and windows, but what about FUN? seriously, how is that enjoyable?

    I know were on a windows site and all, but we shouldn't spread misinformation. Instead, what about windows is better? We can discuss that. And how does productivity and work make it enjoyable to use? I care more about that then work
    You can edit photos and videos you take on your device. I am talking about using an actual camera and then using your Ipad to edit them, or print them using a normal printer (not wireless as most places don't have wireless setup on their printers). IOS is fisher price as its childish in its implementation. icons, bland boring and childish. Again, my son's leap pad has a more advanced interface. I have more fun on my windows based devices than I ever have on my crapple products. I travel ALOT, and use my cameras ALOT, I get out and see places and take lots of photos and videos of our trips. We load up our jeep and go in the backcountry, explore, camp, eat great food cooked in the outdoors. Come back to where we are staying, I plug in my camera to my windows tablet via USB, with my storage drive plugged into the same USB port, and edit and transfer my photos to my drive. That's a lot more fun than playing crappy games or facetiming. FUN Is PRODUCTIVITY. Apple products are for consumption, Windows based prodcuts are for doing things, not viewing things. for god sakes don't use apple maps for trying to find something. My son tried that one day and it led him to the opposite side of town, My here drive app got me right to where we want to everytime we travel. Add in an awesome off line back country mapping program that allows GB's of sat imagry to be downloaded to a hard drive and still navigate. Something that cannot be done with an ipad again. I have about 400 gbs worth of different mapping that we use, impossible on ipad. Don't mention icloud storage as it does not work in the back country. Hell you even have to buy a separate GPS module for the ipad, where as the vivotab I use has it built in. Plus better battery life as well. Again. apple in their locked down glory made their products so un useful.

    Our two vivotabs will be replaced with SP3's in the very near future when they arrive, The stylus I use now, is not near as awesome as the SP3's Wacom. So that and the fact I can use more powerful programming for my photos and videos while seeing the world, (not on a screen until after we are back to base camp), will be a great updated feature. Plus having 512gb storage on board will be awesome as well. Then if I don't get back to my drive for a couple of days I can still store a crap load of photos and videos on my device. having a connected keyboard is a huge bonus too as you get more battery life, and direct useage.
    Last edited by Steve Adams; 12-05-2014 at 06:10 AM.
    12-05-2014 05:52 AM
  7. iamtim's Avatar
    Flash does not work on IOS at all. not without some janky app to run it.
    ...but Macs don't run iOS.

    Flash does not suck considering approx. 90 percent of websites use it in some fashion
    Unless you can source that claim, I call B.S. Either way, wide usage does not imply a lack of suck; take Android, for instance.
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    12-06-2014 01:05 PM
  8. iamtim's Avatar
    Captain Obvious to the rescue I was not talking about Desktop mac, I was talking about mobile apple products. Maybe you need to read what I said more closely.
    Really?

    You specifically said, "90 percent of web based content still use flash so mac users are left out in the cold again with that". Your words, copy/pasted into this post. Even if you then retroactively try to justify that comment by clarifying "mac" as "mobile apple products" you're still wrong, because MacBooks are "mobile apple products" and they run Flash fine.

    So instead of being a smart *** and calling people names, maybe you should say what you mean in the first place, or just buck up and admit that you were wrong.
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    12-06-2014 01:11 PM
  9. JamesPTao's Avatar
    If you have a 920, show your friends how you can use it to drive nails and also for self defense.
    Lol. That review is what did it for me. Already was intrieged by WP os, it got my geek factor. Once I saw that video I was like this phone will survive my wife and kids (hate how flimsy and toy like the Samsung phones felt.
    12-06-2014 01:13 PM
  10. iamtim's Avatar
    Apple products are for consumption, Windows based prodcuts are for doing things, not viewing things.
    Wow, you're really... off when it comes to Apple; iPads are for consumption, not all Apple products. MacBooks - both the Air (which is much more analogous to the Surface Pro than is the iPad) and the Pro - can do everything you just said Apple products can't do. It's fully OK to dislike Apple products, but at least do a *bit* of research and be accurate in your criticisms. As it is, you sound like a child rage-gasming out of ignorance.
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    12-06-2014 07:26 PM
  11. CapoFantasma97's Avatar
    Wow, you're really... off when it comes to Apple; iPads are for consumption, not all Apple products. MacBooks - both the Air (which is much more analogous to the Surface Pro than is the iPad) and the Pro - can do everything you just said Apple products can't do. It's fully OK to dislike Apple products, but at least do a *bit* of research and be accurate in your criticisms. As it is, you sound like a child rage-gasming out of ignorance.

    Well they would be nice... Unless the luxury costs and the far less liberty.
    With a smartphone you do things on the go, you don't need extremely advanced things. With a PC, unless you are a common user who simply surf on the Net and do little other things, you need liberty to install programs, if you are a gamer you want the better performance and the wider choice (however GNU/Linux has a better performance but lacks of many programs and games), if you have an assembled PC, you want to change components without problems.
    12-07-2014 04:22 PM
  12. JamesDax's Avatar
    Simply put. Because it is.
    12-07-2014 04:24 PM
  13. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Wow, you're really... off when it comes to Apple; iPads are for consumption, not all Apple products. MacBooks - both the Air (which is much more analogous to the Surface Pro than is the iPad) and the Pro - can do everything you just said Apple products can't do. It's fully OK to dislike Apple products, but at least do a *bit* of research and be accurate in your criticisms. As it is, you sound like a child rage-gasming out of ignorance.
    As far as I am concerned the surface still beat the air in everything as well. but since the ipad and surface are both mobile devices, that's what I was referring to. but since you brought up the MB AIR, the surface mops that up in performance to dollar as well.
    12-09-2014 05:13 PM
  14. thesachd's Avatar
    What can you say to him? Not much.

    Since we have a number of operating systems to choose from when we get heavily invested in one, it's extremely hard to part from it.

    If your friend has an antiquated Android device maybe you can convince him showing him Cortana, live tiles and so on.

    But honestly speaking if he has a good quality Android device running a more recent version of Android, much of what it can do, it can do better than than Windows Phone. Be it notifications, design, fluidity, multitasking, scrolling and so on...
    12-10-2014 07:27 AM
  15. Guytronic's Avatar
    This thread has been driven enough everyone has made their points.
    Also the OP hasn't appeared in this thread since 11\28 and this is veering off topic.



    Thank you all.
    Closed
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