09-03-2014 06:11 AM
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  1. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    hi guys
    just curious about the ProShot app...
    is it worth it to use on the Lumia 1020 than the Nokia Camera?

    is it faster to snap pictures than the Nokia Camera?
    are the pictures taken better?

    thanks in advance
    UPDATE:
    Out of curiosity, I bought the ProShot app and just finished the tests between Microsoft Camera, Nokia Camera 4.7.2.5 and ProShot 5.0.0.0.

    All tests performed using Nokia Lumia 1020 running Windows Phone 8.1 Preview for Developers and Lumia Black firmware
    Manufacturer Name: RM-875_apac_indonesia_1002
    OS Version: 8.10.12397.895
    Firmware Version: 3051.40000.1345.1002

    Speed Test
    For Speed Test, I did three tests:
    1. Startup Time
    2. Shoot-to-Shoot Time (Autofocus)
    3. Shoot-to-Shoot Time (Manual Focus)
    Each tests repeated three times on each app.

    Results
    Microsoft Camera won the Startup Time test with 3.121 s, followed by ProShot with 4.283 s and Nokia Camera with 4.517 s.
    ProShot won the Shoot-to-Shoot Time (AF) test with 4.489 s, closely followed by Microsoft Camera with 4.494 s and Nokia Camera with 4.526 s.
    Nokia Camera won the Shoot-to-Shoot Time (MF) test with 3.839 s, closely followed by ProShot with 3.845 s.

    Overall, Microsoft Camera won the Speed Test with 7.616 s to start-and-snap, followed by ProShot (8.772 s) and Nokia Camera (9.042 s)

    Quality Test
    For this one, I'd like you guys to give your own opinion.
    I did three tests for this category:
    1. No-flash Auto
    2. ISO 100, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    3. ISO 800, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance

    Results
    No-flash Auto
    Microsoft Camera

    Nokia Camera

    ProShot


    ISO 100, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    Microsoft Camera

    Nokia Camera

    ProShot


    ISO 800, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    Microsoft Camera

    Nokia Camera

    ProShot


    Overall, in my opinion, Nokia Camera produce better colors and doesn't really suffer from the slight yellow tint that can be found on MS Camera and ProShot, although ProShot handles the tint better than the MS Camera.

    Conclusion
    From these tests, we can conclude several pros and cons for each apps:
    Microsoft Camera
    Pros: Fast shooting time
    Cons: No full-resolution shot, Hard to use manual setting, Slightly worse image quality

    Nokia Camera
    Pros: Reframe, Shooting in RAW mode, Easy manual setting
    Cons: Slow

    ProShot
    Pros: More features (manual-focus assist, customizable manual setting, HDR, etc.)
    Cons: Cannot be launched with the camera shutter button, Heat up the phone faster

    comments are welcome
    Last edited by bijak_riyandi; 07-03-2014 at 12:49 PM.
    Sonu K and RiseUpGames like this.
    06-28-2014 02:28 PM
  2. AndrewL920's Avatar
    hi guys
    just curious about the ProShot app...
    is it worth it to use on the Lumia 1020 than the Nokia Camera?

    is it faster to snap pictures than the Nokia Camera?
    are the pictures taken better?

    thanks in advance
    I also want to know which one is much better in terms of quality of pictures.
    dougplanet likes this.
    06-29-2014 10:24 AM
  3. anon(8555314)'s Avatar
    It is hard to answer that question with a simple answer. A lot depends on a) the subject of your photos, b) how much work you want to do setting up your shot, c) how much manual control you want to use when shooting, d) if you want to save several different settings that you use frequently, e) if you ever want to shoot HDR, f) if you want to do any post processing with professional software vs. just crop and one-touch edit on your phone, and g) what is the final use of your photos, digital photo album on Flicker etc vs. posting quick shots on Instagram or Twitter.
    Ed Boland likes this.
    06-29-2014 11:47 AM
  4. belodion's Avatar
    Since the apps are both free you might as well install both and try them.

    Posted via Windows Phone Central App
    06-29-2014 01:15 PM
  5. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    alright guys, I'm gonna provide answers for myself then: done the tests myself

    I'll update the OP in a while
    06-29-2014 08:58 PM
  6. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I used to use ProShot exclusively on my 920 back when I had it. It was way better than the stock camera app and I was able to take some great pictures using it... I've since upgraded to the 1020 though, and now that we have Nokia Camera, I forgot all about ProShot, even though I've still had it installed all along.

    I have been playing with it (ProShot, that is) for the last couple of days, since they did the major ver. 5 update with all the new features. I've got to say it's really good! They each do a couple things the other one doesn't, so having them both to choose from isn't a bad idea. It's not like these camera apps take up a whole bunch of space. Shoot, I have about 12 different camera apps installed on my 1020! lol
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    06-29-2014 09:20 PM
  7. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    OP updated

    I used to use ProShot exclusively on my 920 back when I had it. It was way better than the stock camera app and I was able to take some great pictures using it... I've since upgraded to the 1020 though, and now that we have Nokia Camera, I forgot all about ProShot, even though I've still had it installed all along.

    I have been playing with it (ProShot, that is) for the last couple of days, since they did the major ver. 5 update with all the new features. I've got to say it's really good! They each do a couple things the other one doesn't, so having them both to choose from isn't a bad idea. It's not like these camera apps take up a whole bunch of space. Shoot, I have about 12 different camera apps installed on my 1020! lol
    wow, that's an excessive number of apps :p
    06-29-2014 10:47 PM
  8. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Well, the 1020 is a camera oriented phone..

    Thanks for posting the comparison/review! Kinda figured Nokia Camera would be the slowest, especially when in DNG/RAW mode.
    06-30-2014 12:00 AM
  9. SBaljeet's Avatar
    Well I have a 920, bought Proshot right when it was launched and was pretty impressed by it! But soon the overheating issues started surfacing. And afterwards Nokia Camera came into the store that made me uninstall every camera app I ever downloaded.

    Recently i reinstalled Proshot just to try it out again and well it again impressed me! IMO proshot has a +1 feature to shoot HDR images that Nokia Camera doesnt..well for atleast below lumia1020 range phones. On the other hand if we use iso-100 setting in Nokia camera it produces clean smooth photos competing the like of HDRs of proshot..

    Still i like to play with settings in Nokia camera more than Proshot..
    06-30-2014 01:13 AM
  10. 1airlee's Avatar
    Please up pics again.
    06-30-2014 03:36 AM
  11. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    Please up pics again.
    planning to do that
    please wait :)
    06-30-2014 05:05 AM
  12. AndrewL920's Avatar
    UPDATE:
    Out of curiosity, I bought the ProShot app and just finished the tests between Microsoft Camera, Nokia Camera 4.7.2.5 and ProShot 5.0.0.0.

    All tests performed using Nokia Lumia 1020 running Windows Phone 8.1 Preview for Developers and Lumia Black firmware
    Manufacturer Name: RM-875_apac_indonesia_1002
    OS Version: 8.10.12397.895
    Firmware Version: 3051.40000.1345.1002

    Speed Test
    For Speed Test, I did three tests:
    1. Startup Time
    2. Shoot-to-Shoot Time (Autofocus)
    3. Shoot-to-Shoot Time (Manual Focus)
    Each tests repeated three times on each app.

    Results
    Microsoft Camera won the Startup Time test with 3.121 s, followed by ProShot with 4.283 s and Nokia Camera with 4.517 s.
    ProShot won the Shoot-to-Shoot Time (AF) test with 4.489 s, closely followed by Microsoft Camera with 4.494 s and Nokia Camera with 4.526 s.
    Nokia Camera won the Shoot-to-Shoot Time (MF) test with 3.839 s, closely followed by ProShot with 3.845 s.

    Overall, Microsoft Camera won the Speed Test with 7.616 s to start-and-snap, followed by ProShot (8.772 s) and Nokia Camera (9.042 s)

    Quality Test
    For this one, I'd like you guys to give your own opinion.
    I did three tests for this category:
    1. No-flash Auto
    2. ISO 100, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    3. ISO 800, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance

    Results
    No-flash Auto
    Microsoft Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    Nokia Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    ProShot
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg

    ISO 100, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    Microsoft Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    Nokia Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    ProShot
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg

    ISO 800, EV 0, Fluorescent White Balance
    Microsoft Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    Nokia Camera
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg
    ProShot
    https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=photo%2c.jpg

    Overall, in my opinion, Nokia Camera produce better colors and doesn't really suffer from the slight yellow tint that can be found on MS Camera and ProShot, although ProShot handles the tint better than the MS Camera.

    Conclusion
    From these tests, we can conclude several pros and cons for each apps:
    Microsoft Camera
    Pros: Fast shooting time
    Cons: No full-resolution shot, Hard to use manual setting, Slightly worse image quality

    Nokia Camera
    Pros: Reframe, Shooting in RAW mode, Easy manual setting
    Cons: Slow

    ProShot
    Pros: More features (manual-focus assist, customizable manual setting, HDR, etc.)
    Cons: Cannot be launched with the camera shutter button, Heat up the phone faster

    comments are welcome
    Where are the comparison photos?
    06-30-2014 07:38 AM
  13. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    Where are the comparison photos?
    it's there in the Quality Test section
    refresh the page if you can't see them
    06-30-2014 08:29 AM
  14. anon(8555314)'s Avatar
    For the startup speed test, a better test that is closer to a real world test would be how long it takes to wake up camera from sleeping and take a photo. Now obviously, Proshot would be at a serious disadvantage here because you cannot make it the default app to launch by pressing the shutter button.

    That is why I am using the Nokia Camera Beta app for my quick shot auto shoot mode, and Proshot when I want to take the time to set up the camera settings manually.
    06-30-2014 09:37 AM
  15. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    But only Nokia camera support oversample?
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    06-30-2014 12:20 PM
  16. belodion's Avatar
    But only Nokia camera support oversample?
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    Some other phones use oversampling.

    Posted via Windows Phone Central App
    06-30-2014 04:33 PM
  17. bozvandam's Avatar
    i have about 12 different camera apps installed on my 1020! Lol
    only 12 ;)
    06-30-2014 04:54 PM
  18. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    As soon as other software support oversampling, I'll give it a go..
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-01-2014 03:30 AM
  19. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    OP updated
    just realized that the images won't load...
    07-01-2014 05:14 AM
  20. SlideWRX's Avatar

    Results
    Microsoft
    ProShot won the Shoot-to-Shoot Time (AF) test with 4.489 s, closely followed by Microsoft Camera with 4.494 s and Nokia Camera with 4.526 s.

    Conclusion
    From these tests, we can conclude several pros and cons for each apps:
    Microsoft Camera
    Pros: Fast shooting time
    From this, I would say they all fall into the SLOW category for shoot to shoot time. I went for the 1020 since we were having a baby, and my wife ends up taking most of the photos with her iPhone 5 because the shoot to shoot time is MUCH quicker, and she can catch the baby smiling. Understandably processing 41MB of data is slower than 8MB, but this is ridiculous.
    07-02-2014 10:23 AM
  21. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    From this, I would say they all fall into the SLOW category for shoot to shoot time. I went for the 1020 since we were having a baby, and my wife ends up taking most of the photos with her iPhone 5 because the shoot to shoot time is MUCH quicker, and she can catch the baby smiling. Understandably processing 41MB of data is slower than 8MB, but this is ridiculous.
    there's the smart sequence to handle that and it's just one swipe away when you're using the Nokia Camera

    besides, 1020 vs iPhone 5 is like Benelli M3 vs Glock: while the shotgun is slower, it's more powerful than the pistol
    07-02-2014 06:28 PM
  22. anon(8555314)'s Avatar
    there's the smart sequence to handle that and it's just one swipe away when you're using the Nokia Camera
    Perhaps it is just me but I like the burst mode better with the new version of Proshot. If you shoot 8 frames per second you ought to be able to get one good baby shot in there.
    07-02-2014 10:04 PM
  23. peestandingup's Avatar
    Perhaps it is just me but I like the burst mode better with the new version of Proshot. If you shoot 8 frames per second you ought to be able to get one good baby shot in there.
    Yeah, but at really low res. Who wants that? Wasted shots IMO.
    07-03-2014 01:23 AM
  24. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    Yeah, but at really low res. Who wants that? Wasted shots IMO.
    the tool is there to use, it's just a matter of how smart you are when you use it
    07-03-2014 07:59 AM
  25. peestandingup's Avatar
    the tool is there to use, it's just a matter of how smart you are when you use it
    Not sure what you're getting at. You can be a genius, but that doesn't change the fact that trying to take action or even slightly moving shots with the 1020 is a difficult task. So you've got two choices: Take it at high res (which is slow) and hope for the best. Or use burst & get the shot, bit at an almost unusable resolution.

    If you know a better way to capture moving shots at high res without blur I'd love to hear it.
    07-03-2014 12:18 PM
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