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  1. minori_aoi's Avatar
    Hello all, I wanna ask. Did MS promised Ativ S WP 8.1 at all?? Is this device still relevant today??

    It went on sale for 85.5 USD here (NEW and UNLOCKED) from it's original price which was around 400 USD. I think it very cheap. Spec even much better than Lumia 63x which cost more than twice of this.
    08-30-2014 04:35 PM
  2. lexrsk's Avatar
    Hello all, I wanna ask. Did MS promised Ativ S WP 8.1 at all?.
    The correct question is
    Did Samsung promise the Ativ S WP 8.1?
    08-30-2014 07:16 PM
  3. minori_aoi's Avatar
    The correct question is
    Did Samsung promise the Ativ S WP 8.1?
    Sorry, but I don't follow the WP story.

    I'm coming from iOS here. Back then on WP7 days (I used to have Focus), all devices get updated and MS had list of the devices update status on their website.
    08-30-2014 08:51 PM
  4. lexrsk's Avatar
    Sorry, but I don't follow the WP story.

    I'm coming from iOS here. Back then on WP7 days (I used to have Focus), all devices get updated and MS had list of the devices update status on their website.
    OK. MS release the OS to the OEM's (handset manafacture's) they then release the OS + Firmware to the Handsets, unlike iOS where Apple control the OS and Hardware.

    You need to think of WP8-8.1 updates similar to Android updates. Some OEM's will update the handsets some won't.
    I'm still yet to see a OS and Firmware update from Samsung post WP8.0 GDR3.
    If you are looking to get a WP handset I would recomend getting a Nokia, only because Nokia Handsets get updated on a regular basis.
    08-30-2014 10:46 PM
  5. akoj's Avatar
    OK. MS release the OS to the OEM's (handset manafacture's) they then release the OS + Firmware to the Handsets, unlike iOS where Apple control the OS and Hardware.

    You need to think of WP8-8.1 updates similar to Android updates. Some OEM's will update the handsets some won't.
    I'm still yet to see a OS and Firmware update from Samsung post WP8.0 GDR3.
    If you are looking to get a WP handset I would recomend getting a Nokia, only because Nokia Handsets get updated on a regular basis.

    Samsung and HTC devices were first to get GDR2 and GDR3. Now, after MS-Nokia deal is done - there are no updates for Samsung/HTC. I wonder why...

    The last paragraph is the answer.
    08-31-2014 02:31 AM
  6. neo158's Avatar
    OK. MS release the OS to the OEM's (handset manafacture's) they then release the OS + Firmware to the Handsets, unlike iOS where Apple control the OS and Hardware.

    You need to think of WP8-8.1 updates similar to Android updates. Some OEM's will update the handsets some won't.
    I'm still yet to see a OS and Firmware update from Samsung post WP8.0 GDR3.If you are looking to get a WP handset I would recomend getting a Nokia, only because Nokia Handsets get updated on a regular basis.
    Samsung and HTC devices were first to get GDR2 and GDR3. Now, after MS-Nokia deal is done - there are no updates for Samsung/HTC. I wonder why...

    The last paragraph is the answer.
    So. Much. Negativity.

    Until we hear directly from Samsung that they have no intention of providing any more updates then there's no point speculating, all I know for sure is that the ATIV S WILL get WP8.1 the question isn't IF but WHEN. I've asked Samsung myself and they've stated next month and that's all we have.
    Last edited by neo158; 08-31-2014 at 03:43 PM.
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    08-31-2014 02:31 PM
  7. FarStrider2001's Avatar
    It makes sense gdr3 didn't end up coming untill the last 3 months of last year(at least that's what happened in the Canadian market)
    08-31-2014 02:44 PM
  8. akoj's Avatar
    So. Much. Negativity.

    Until we hear directly from Samsung that they have no intention of providing any more updates then there's no point speculating, all I know for sure is that the ATIV S WILL get WP8.1 the question isn't IF but WHEN. I've asked Samsung myself and they've stated next month and that's all we have.
    I'm being negative about MS, not Samsung - please, read again.
    Main point is this - MS profits from HTC and Samsung not releasing updates.
    08-31-2014 03:56 PM
  9. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I'm being negative about MS, not Samsung - please, read again.
    Main point is this - MS profits from HTC and Samsung not releasing updates.
    And he said "So much negativity", didn't said also it is about Samsung or MS
    what he wrote bellow that is in par with the topic of this thread.
    After all, this is a thread about Expecting SAMSUNG firmware, not MS firmware :)
    MS is not producing firmware, OEM's does. :)
    08-31-2014 05:50 PM
  10. RoyalX's Avatar
    Wake Up, Wake Up, it is the first of the month...

    Let's hope we will get it this month.
    09-01-2014 03:25 AM
  11. lexrsk's Avatar
    So. Much. Negativity.

    Until we hear directly from Samsung that they have no intention of providing any more updates then there's no point speculating, all I know for sure is that the ATIV S WILL get WP8.1 the question isn't IF but WHEN. I've asked Samsung myself and they've stated next month and that's all we have.
    No not negativity, No Speculation. Just stament of fact
    • Nokia Mobile provide regular updates
    • Nokia Mobile provide regular press releases for when to expect the next updates
    • When did Samsung last have a press release about OS/Firmware updates for their Windows Phone handsets?
    • Samsung, by their actions are more dedicated to Android.


    Do not take my statement the wrong way I'm very happy with my Ativ S. As a handset it does everything that I need it to do, I would just like to have the Firmware to go with the OS.
    09-01-2014 03:46 AM
  12. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    No not negativity, No Speculation. Just stament of fact
    • Nokia Mobile provide regular updates
    • Nokia Mobile provide regular press releases for when to expect the next updates
    • When did Samsung last have a press release about OS/Firmware updates for their Windows Phone handsets?
    • Samsung, by their actions are more dedicated to Android.


    Do not take my statement the wrong way I'm very happy with my Ativ S. As a handset it does everything that I need it to do, I would just like to have the Firmware to go with the OS.
    Bro, no one took your statement wrong, we just told you not to be negative for your own good, like, to be more positive, got it? :)
    You have absolutely right to say whatever bothers you in your mind, that's why forums exist. And ofcorse you love your ATIV S, otherwise you wouldn't be here, right? :) I personally like to think that around 90% of the people who bought the ATIV S knew what they are buying. They probably made some re-search before buy the phone, so they bought it cuz they really liked it :)
    Cheers :)
    09-01-2014 06:11 AM
  13. lexrsk's Avatar
    Bro, no one took your statement wrong, we just told you not to be negative for your own good, like, to be more positive, got it? :)
    Got it? Yes I've got it..

    I've been told by two users on a forum that I need to be more positive..

    I never said that Samsung would not provide updated firmware. The previous poster was asking if the Samsung Ativ was worth buying now.. My opinion was and still is no it is not a handset worth buying now. When it was first released it was comparable with other handsets available at the time.
    But now it is like asking if the iPhone 4s is still worth buying
    09-01-2014 07:56 AM
  14. SPIFF Costa's Avatar
    Got it? Yes I've got it..

    I've been told by two users on a forum that I need to be more positive..

    I never said that Samsung would not provide updated firmware. The previous poster was asking if the Samsung Ativ was worth buying now.. My opinion was and still is no it is not a handset worth buying now. When it was first released it was comparable with other handsets available at the time.
    But now it is like asking if the iPhone 4s is still worth buying
    It is worth buying. It just depends on the price. I bought mine about 4 or 5 months ago and I think it was a good buy. Because I bought it for 150€ (around 197$)
    09-01-2014 08:28 AM
  15. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    It is worth buying. It just depends on the price. I bought mine about 4 or 5 months ago and I think it was a good buy. Because I bought it for 150€ (around 197$)
    I bought mine for 100 euros in march 2014 from T-Mobile Macedonia. I could go for better phone at that time, but the price was too tempting. I am not a specs and pixel junkie, so this phone is perfect for me :)
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    09-01-2014 09:48 AM
  16. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Got it? Yes I've got it..

    I've been told by two users on a forum that I need to be more positive..

    I never said that Samsung would not provide updated firmware. The previous poster was asking if the Samsung Ativ was worth buying now.. My opinion was and still is no it is not a handset worth buying now. When it was first released it was comparable with other handsets available at the time.
    But now it is like asking if the iPhone 4s is still worth buying
    Chill out bro, we are just being friendly :) Relax, have a beer on me :)
    09-01-2014 09:49 AM
  17. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Maybe this is part of MS strategy. You like your HTC/Samsung/..... WP device, but it doesn't get updated, so next time you will buy what?
    Probably an iPhone. If they're releasing a 5.5" display, I might be gone. :P
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    09-01-2014 02:51 PM
  18. Oversoul7's Avatar
    I bought mine for 100 euros in march 2014 from T-Mobile Macedonia. I could go for better phone at that time, but the price was too tempting. I am not a specs and pixel junkie, so this phone is perfect for me :)
    Got in mine September 2013 for 235 euros unlocked (thanks to mom). Its android brother, the Galaxy S3, was going for 400-450 euros (unlocked). Did not know anything about windows phone or the phone itself so it was an uninformed decision, but i'm glad i made it. My only gripe with the OS (not phone) is how inflexible the dialing screen and its options are, and how there are many steps involved in saving a contact/phone number.
    danijel0000 likes this.
    09-02-2014 12:32 AM
  19. xxxneoxxx's Avatar
    Probably an iPhone. If they're releasing a 5.5" display, I might be gone. :P
    Lol, over here (the Netherlands) that would almost be comparing a ford focus with a ferrari.. Price wise. So no comparison. I do like the feel ios has, in my opinion the same idea Windows Phone has. Logical, easy to use user interface. I don't like Apples pricing, the smaller screens (but it seems thats going to be fixed) , the fact that you pay 100 euro more every time u want to double the memory in the phone (look at the prices of micro sd and you see apple rips you off) and the fact that with major updates your device becomes unbearably slow at times. Typing this from my ipad 2 btw, where the browser regulary "hangs" since ios7.. So, idevices, not worth the huge price in my opinion. I'll have my Ativ S over an iphone every day. :)
    Last edited by xxxneoxxx; 09-03-2014 at 11:41 AM.
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    09-02-2014 02:19 AM
  20. Alex Boom's Avatar
    First of all, DP has already been released, so it's silly to wonder IF it will get the update.
    Second, 3-4 days ago Nokia released FW and SW updates for the Lumia 720 devices, which means that even Nokia hasn't finished updating its devices...
    The only logical question would be ''when it will be released?''
    09-02-2014 04:38 PM
  21. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    first of all, dp has already been released, so it's silly to wonder if it will get the update.
    Second, 3-4 days ago nokia released fw and sw updates for the lumia 720 devices, which means that even nokia hasn't finished updating its devices...
    The only logical question would be ''when it will be released?''
    yup :)
    09-03-2014 01:45 AM
  22. FarStrider2001's Avatar
    Dont know if anyone has seen this yet but there was an update published for the diagnosis app on August 12 version 1.6.5.0(found using sysapp pusher) name labeled as Diagnosis_Ody81. Cant download it yet my guess is I need wp8.1 guess well be seeing it soon or later
    09-03-2014 10:43 PM
  23. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Microsoft announced new firmware for WP 8.1 + Update 1 codename DENIM
    Samsung FAIL
    :D
    09-04-2014 05:26 AM
  24. megadragon998's Avatar
    Samsung better prepare some ultra mega giga tera peta update for 8.1 or i am leaving as soon as i gather some money.
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    09-04-2014 08:05 AM
  25. neo158's Avatar
    Microsoft announced new firmware for WP 8.1 + Update 1 codename DENIM
    Samsung FAIL
    :D
    That's a Samsung Fail, how?

    Just because Microsoft Mobile devices require a firmware update for Update 1 it doesn't mean Samsung devices will, the most the new firmware will bring is Hey Cortana support for certain handsets.
    09-04-2014 08:29 AM
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