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  1. JoeRollerfan's Avatar
    -This is a big one. I had a WiQiQi charging pad for an S4. It goes inside the battery cover, attaching to two terminals and covering most of the battery, but it works with the factory back cover. Guess what? Works like a champ with the ATIV SE. So, for me at least, wireless charging is handled with no added expense (I think the cost when I bought it was $50 with the adapter and the pad). Cool... the cases for the S4 don't work, but this nifty wireless charging thing did...
    Whoa, I didn't even know you could add wireless charging to those phones. Thanks for the tip!
    04-19-2014 11:48 PM
  2. Tomad9#AC's Avatar
    How is the camera compared to the Nokia Icon?
    Thanks
    04-20-2014 07:12 AM
  3. dabeast622's Avatar
    Guys ... Are you having any issues with this phone and v8.1 ... my phone gets stuck on the lock screen, and I can't do anything but soft reset the phone with VOL UP and Power. It has also happened to me immediately after hanging up from a phone call ... it's almost like the touchscreen just completely stops working for some reason. Just did a Hard reset ... hopefully that fixes it.
    04-20-2014 08:36 AM
  4. A895's Avatar
    How is the camera compared to the Nokia Icon?
    Thanks
    From reports here on WPCentral, it`s good but the Icon has better Low light shots. It depends on whether you take more low light shots or not. For everyday shooting, it`s good.
    04-20-2014 08:44 AM
  5. ret18057's Avatar
    The camera on the Icon is better. No doubt. The difference between these phones may come down to, do you want a camera that can make phone calls, or a phone that can take decent pictures?
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    04-20-2014 12:35 PM
  6. admorris#AC's Avatar
    The camera on the Icon is better. No doubt. The difference between these phones may come down to, do you want a camera that can make phone calls, or a phone that can take decent pictures?



    There are a lot more difference than that. The feel of the phones are totally different. I went to Verizon yesterday not sure of which of the two I was going to walk out with. I sincerely had not decided as I entered the store. I played with both for a good half hour or more...taking pictures, sending texts etc, and I walked out with the Ativ with absolutely 0 regrets. The phone just felt much better in hand than the Icon. The pictures looked as good if not a little better on the Ativ, and I didn't have to worry about using a different app to get full exposure etc. The addition of a removable battery, a larger battery, and an SD card just made it a no brainer for me. I guess if you're huge in to pictures and post processing on a computer, maybe the Icon has the edge, but that is such a small advantage for all of the Ativ advantages, that I just couldn't go Nokia.





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    04-20-2014 01:33 PM
  7. Tomad9#AC's Avatar
    The camera on the Icon is better. No doubt. The difference between these phones may come down to, do you want a camera that can make phone calls, or a phone that can take decent pictures?
    I have the 928 now and it takes very good pics. The reason I would upgrade is battery life and speed, but I would not want to give up camera. I use my phone mostly as a phone, 2 - 3 hours of phone talk daily if not more. The 2nd most important feature is the camera. With kids I always find myself grabbing my phone to take a picture. I have a great P&S and a pocket camera which I always leave at home. Always have phone on me though. So I hear about the Icon and most say the camera is a nice improvement over Icon, but I would not like to take a step back with Samsung. Problem is there is no-one I personally know with an Icon or ATIV to see 1st hand. Store just doesn't do it. Appreciate all the details you give. Thanks
    04-20-2014 05:46 PM
  8. ret18057's Avatar
    So, some other thoughts, it was subtle, but I noticed today that the vibrate on the ATIV is "better" (more noticable? more powerful?) than the Icon. So, for me, that was a good thing.

    Also, I don't know if this is an ATIV or an 8.1 issue, but it seems I "activate" Cortana accidentally very often...any contact with the search button, and I mean any contact, activates it. For example, I use BodBot for my workouts (highly recommend, they update the WP app more than any other developer I deal with), and when I place the phone in my pocket between reps, it almost always wakes up Cortana. The pressure from the phone against my leg, through my shorts. I'll have to play with it and see if there is a way to increase the press and hold time to activate it, if not, MS, get on that...
    04-20-2014 07:28 PM
  9. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Glad you guys like the ATIV SE. I sure love my Samsung ATIV S :). Love the removable battery and micro SD Slot :)

    PS: ugh I looooove the physical Windows Key on Samsung WPs :D
    04-20-2014 08:08 PM
  10. ret18057's Avatar
    Just for giggles, it's not a pound for pound comparison, but here are two shots, first from the ATIV, second from the Icon...
    Attached Thumbnails ativ.jpg   icon.jpg  
    04-20-2014 09:26 PM
  11. mary beth hale's Avatar
    **UPDATE:**

    So, after a week, I "think" the ATIV will be my device. I like the slimmer profile, and the camera is good enough for me. The wireless charging (with adapter) and SD card makes it an easier choice.

    I'll tell you this, I don't see this phone drawing away any Android users. For the same money, you get an S5 with all the latest bells and whistles, and full app support. There will have to be a watershed moment where WP gets that app support, or something to generate buzz, to attract more people. As it stands, folks like me that just want out of the Google ecosystem are the only ones who are going to convert. This phone is a great "gateway" for someone coming over, but WP isn't there yet to ENTICE people to move over. The Icon was ALMOST there, but the lack of SD and Glance, and the two picture thing, made it less appealing to a generalized end user like me. Nokia has it's fan base, but so far that yields them less than 4% of the market.

    Oh, FWIW, the single press of the Windows key lights up the screen, no fumbling for the power button. +Samsung.
    ...
    I am not a huge app user, but for anyone I've spoken to about switching to windows phone, this is the #1 concern. The OS itself runs beautifully and (for me) is a pleasure to use. unfortunately the app issue is a vicious circle. devs, retailers,banks etc, aren't likely to invest in app development for an OS that has a small market share but that same OS has problems gaining a larger market share without having a solid, robust app library. Damn.
    By the way, I love having that physical home button on my Ativ S as well. Thanks for all the info
    04-21-2014 12:02 AM
  12. el_mono70's Avatar
    Mary Beth it is a vicious cycle. I contacted Lexicomp support (arguably the best drug database) about wp8 and the response was complete indifference. A few years ago (wp7) era and at least they expressed some interest. The complete lack of quality med apps really hurts the platform(imho).
    Ret18057, I also seem to activate Cortana half the time I open the action center.
    Nevertheless, I love this phone. As an aside, mms doesn't seem to work with AT&T as I expected.
    el mono
    04-21-2014 01:45 AM
  13. hawaiilumia's Avatar
    badly need calendar to be integrated in the action center, the default calendar tile don't give that much of details
    04-21-2014 07:39 AM
  14. brau0303's Avatar
    Hey el_mono70, thanks for confirming the mms thing (I figured as much but wanted to see if you had found a way). I would have to say that picture taking is about on par with the S4/Note3 (I have both). As to the thought about the SE being a repurposed S4..(chassis is the only thing I am comparing with the S4) I feel that chassis wise there is much more in common with the S4 Active than the regular S4 but the SE is a tad thinner. FYI my S4 Active case fit very well except for the difference in thickness most of the main function & sensor locations line up the same. I hope Samsung does well with the SE and adds more carriers to the SE family.

    Cheers
    BR
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    04-21-2014 08:19 AM
  15. mary beth hale's Avatar
    badly need calendar to be integrated in the action center, the default calendar tile don't give that much of details
    Try Chronos Calendar
    04-21-2014 10:56 AM
  16. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    When you swap carriers, MMS settings will likely need to be changed manually. Here's the Internet and MMS info for AT&T (LTE):
    Mobile Phone Carrier Settings for AT&T (LTE) - United States

    (manual instructions for Windows Phone 8 are on the bottom of the page).
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    04-21-2014 11:13 AM
  17. mary beth hale's Avatar
    have read some user reviews of the Ativ SE online and most say that the similarity in look and feel to the galaxy series made it much more comfortable to switch to windows phone. I find this interesting because it looks like even the "use nokia or go home" faction may have to admit that the SE will help windows phone, not hurt it.
    04-21-2014 12:21 PM
  18. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    Hey el_mono70, thanks for confirming the mms thing (I figured as much but wanted to see if you had found a way). I would have to say that picture taking is about on par with the S4/Note3 (I have both). As to the thought about the SE being a repurposed S4..(chassis is the only thing I am comparing with the S4) I feel that chassis wise there is much more in common with the S4 Active than the regular S4 but the SE is a tad thinner. FYI my S4 Active case fit very well except for the difference in thickness most of the main function & sensor locations line up the same. I hope Samsung does well with the SE and adds more carriers to the SE family.

    Cheers
    BR

    Hi there brau0303,

    I noticed you have the Galaxy S4 and I was wondering how the screen dimensions lined up with that of the ATIV SE. I ask because I want to make sure I get a quality screen protector for the ATIV SE before I get it and I'm curious if the protectors for S4 will fit the screen dimensions of the ATIV SE.

    Any and all info is truly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
    04-21-2014 04:00 PM
  19. admorris#AC's Avatar
    Hi there brau0303,

    I noticed you have the Galaxy S4 and I was wondering how the screen dimensions lined up with that of the ATIV SE. I ask because I want to make sure I get a quality screen protector for the ATIV SE before I get it and I'm curious if the protectors for S4 will fit the screen dimensions of the ATIV SE.

    Any and all info is truly appreciated! Thanks in advance!



    I have owned both and still had some protectors left o er from my s4. I tried one yesterday (iSmooth), and it was definitely not as good a fit as the stock Verizon (Ativ SE) protector. It looked as if the s4 protector was lacking a little on the top corners...looked a little shorter than the Ativ protector. Just my two cents.





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    04-21-2014 04:19 PM
  20. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    I have owned both and still had some protectors left o er from my s4. I tried one yesterday (iSmooth), and it was definitely not as good a fit as the stock Verizon (Ativ SE) protector. It looked as if the s4 protector was lacking a little on the top corners...looked a little shorter than the Ativ protector. Just my two cents.





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    Thanks admorris! Much appreciated. I really want to get one of those tempered glass protectors as I felt the screen wasn't as smooth as the Icon and a Verizon rep said those glass ones help give a similar experience.

    I kind of dont care about the top corners if its just a bit and it doesn't cover the sensors, ear speaker and fits around the button ok. Did you put the the Verizon stock protector on your ATIV SE? How is it? Is it smooth? Ultra Clear or matte?
    04-21-2014 04:33 PM
  21. brau0303's Avatar
    the shape is much closer to the S4 Active, the regular S4 has a slightly different shape than the active, it's also thinner than the Active. The SE is thinner than the S4 Active but I think a hair thicker than the regular S4 (Don't have it handy to compare atm) any screen protectors for the Reg S4 will be off on the shape and the smaller home button, any screen protector for the S4 Active will be closer in shape but likely has a larger cut out for the three physical buttons instead of the one home button. Hopes this helps.

    Cheers
    BR

    I have owned both and still had some protectors left o er from my s4. I tried one yesterday (iSmooth), and it was definitely not as good a fit as the stock Verizon (Ativ SE) protector. It looked as if the s4 protector was lacking a little on the top corners...looked a little shorter than the Ativ protector. Just my two cents.





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    04-21-2014 08:50 PM
  22. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    the shape is much closer to the S4 Active, the regular S4 has a slightly different shape than the active, it's also thinner than the Active. The SE is thinner than the S4 Active but I think a hair thicker than the regular S4 (Don't have it handy to compare atm) any screen protectors for the Reg S4 will be off on the shape and the smaller home button, any screen protector for the S4 Active will be closer in shape but likely has a larger cut out for the three physical buttons instead of the one home button. Hopes this helps.

    Cheers
    BR
    Thank you BR! Also, final question.... you mentioned getting the Verizon version of the ATIV SE screen protector and its a better fit. How does it feel compared to the glass? Is it an ultra clear or anti-glare?
    04-21-2014 09:02 PM
  23. brau0303's Avatar
    Happy to help, I was not the one talking about a specific screen protector (I went with a hybrid case from VZN that had a built in protector ant I don't really like the protector) I usually don't rock a protector (I do like the glass ones but they have their own set of issues case compatibility being the main one) I do like non glare protectors and if I was looking for one that's what I would try to find, sorry I do not have any recommendation at this time. If anyone finds something they really like please share, I would be interested in what you find.

    Cheers
    BR

    Thank you BR! Also, final question.... you mentioned getting the Verizon version of the ATIV SE screen protector and its a better fit. How does it feel compared to the glass? Is it an ultra clear or anti-glare?
    04-21-2014 09:49 PM
  24. admorris#AC's Avatar
    Thank you BR! Also, final question.... you mentioned getting the Verizon version of the ATIV SE screen protector and its a better fit. How does it feel compared to the glass? Is it an ultra clear or anti-glare?



    The Verizon protectors feel real good as far as I'm concerned. I normally hate their protectors, but these are top notch...3 for $12.





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    04-21-2014 10:58 PM
  25. admorris#AC's Avatar
    I got the ultra clear...i don't know if they had matte or not.

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    04-21-2014 10:58 PM
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