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  1. oalvarez's Avatar
    nothing like a slide-out keyboard..awesome! glad you love it! not sure why anyone would want anything else
    10-08-2006 12:05 AM
  2. porcaccio's Avatar
    I'm getting mine monday. The treo still has some really good features, but I am looking forward to the ip-830w.
    10-08-2006 01:49 AM
  3. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    The only things I miss from my 700WX:

    - Holding the "OK" key brings up the memory managment screen.
    - The Google search box you can put on the Today Screen.
    10-08-2006 02:56 AM
  4. Cannonierd's Avatar
    For me its between this phone and the 700p if there is a firmware upgrade that is. Won't the cases from Verizon's i730 fit this phone? I really like the 700p but reading all the complaints about it is very disheartning...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Monaco-MC31-Blac...em230036516579
    10-08-2006 08:24 PM
  5. Big Tone's Avatar
    Does it have MS IM built in?
    10-08-2006 09:42 PM
  6. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    Are you talking about MSN Messenger? Yes it has that built in.
    10-08-2006 09:47 PM
  7. Big Tone's Avatar
    Are you talking about MSN Messenger? Yes it has that built in.
    Yes, thanks!
    10-08-2006 09:49 PM
  8. porcaccio's Avatar
    Can you elaborate on how you feel about the phone's one handed functionality? I went from a treo 650 to a PPC 6700 and hated it until the treo 700wx came out. the 700wx is great in all aspects except screen real estate. i never thought i would miss the 6700, but when browsing the internet, the experience is sorely lacking. however, for what we do most of the time (phone use and sms), the treo works great. so, i am wondering how you feel about the ip-830w in those regards.

    thanks in advance..
    10-08-2006 10:08 PM
  9. porcaccio's Avatar
    Great review written on another site (pdaphonehome)... Had pictures, but removed during cut/paste...

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    Now that I have had the Samsung IP-i830w for 4 days I wanted to post some impressions of it and some comparison pictures of sprint's current PPC phones.

    The happy family:



    IP-i830w, Treo700wx, PPC-6700.

    Keys:

    Obviously the keys are smaller than the ppc-6700, however I found myself typing almost as fast. The i830 keys are very 'clicky' so despite their small size it is very easy to tell you have hit the correct key. I have not experienced the letter skipping I get on the 6700 when I type too fast.

    Anyone who plans to do one handed typing will be right at home, It is even easier to type one handed on the i830 than it is on the treo. Typing while walking with only one hand on the unit is a breeze compared to the 6700.

    GSM use:

    As far as I can determine from inside the US the i830 is unlocked. I inserted a T-Mobile USA SIM card and powered it into GSM mode. It started up without restriction and attempted to search for the network. (obviously it found nothing since it doesnt support US frequencies, but it would have worked if the network was available)

    Size:

    I am not a fan of small phones. I love the size of the i830 with the extended battery, It gives me something to hook my fingers underneath when using the unit. Overall size (with standard battey) is very close to the 6700 and slightly thicker than the treo.

    Screen:

    Well, its not square. While I was very happy with the Treo700wx I did not like the square screen. That doesnt mean the 700wx is a bad unit or unusable, it is now in constant use by my girlfriend and serving her well. I just find the rectangular screen to be more familier and usable. The i830 screen seems to be slightly larger than the 6700's, otherwise that are the same resolution and of similar brightness.

    Reception:

    Is excellent. Better than the 6700 in fringe areas, nearly as good as the current best sprint phone for reception (LG Fusic).

    Battery life:

    Standard is not as good as the standard 6700 battery. Extended is sufficent for a full day of email, web use and some music playback. Unfortunately it is hard to quantify this but the battery isnt holding me back at all. Though it doesnt equal the superb battery life of the treo700wx.

    Phone usability:

    The earpiece is louder than the ppc-6700. It is similar to the treo700wx. It does not have the contacts search feature of the treo700wx or the smart dialer of the updated 6700.

    Build quality/ features:

    The i830 is solid as a rock. Where the ppc-6700 flexes and feels like a cheap plastic toy the i830 feels sold and well made of premium materials. The assisted opening slider mechanism feels smooth and solid like that of the D900 or T809.

    The inclusion of a physical switch used to lock the screen was a great touch. I wish it had a master volume switch like the treo though.

    I love the full sized SD slot, getting 4gb of storage for less than the cost of a 2gb miniSD is a no-brainer. It is also great to be able to swap cards directly from a camera into the PDA to email pictures immediately.

    Bluetooth voice dialing works great without any extra setup. Samsung's voice signal software is simple and easy to use, though not as full featured as voice command.

    EVDO Ringthrough works right out of the box. I started playing a shoutcast stream and caller the phone. Data connection ended and the call came through.

    Issues:

    - crashes:

    4 crashes so far. 2 during initial setup and loading of programs. One white screen and one where the screen disolved into a colorful pixelated mess from top down. Both required a soft reset to fix. One lockup on each of the last two mornings. In both cases the unit was plugged to AC power and running exchange push email all night. I grabbed it to look at it and it was frozen on the today screen displaying a time that was several hours past and unresponsive. Soft reset fixed both.

    (installed software: vbar, batti, gsplayer, TCPMP, PHM regedit, Total commander, SPB backup, agile messenger)

    - nitpicks:

    The screen is sunken into the body of the unit to protect it. This makes it hard to hit a top right corner button with the thumb nail.

    There is no $ on the keyboard.

    The 'searchtoday' plugin still doesnt work with the physical keyboard. I dearly miss this feature of the treo700wx. (along with the contact search from the today screen)

    Windows key is only on the slideout keyboard.

    Nonstandard charger and data cable.

    I have been unable to get SuperDave's A2DP hack for the i730/i830 to work as yet. The headset offers the option to pair for 'wireless stereo' but once pairing is saved you are unable to 'set as wireless stereo' on the headphones.

    - Bugs?

    When exiting a no service area (IE the subway) the unit fails the reaquire the power vision network. It hangs on connecting with an invalid username password error and seems to attempt data roaming despite the unit being set to sprint only. Soft reset is required to fix.

    Since the moment I ESN swapped my 6700 for the i830 I have been unable to recieve text messages from my girlfriend's Treo700wx (and a 700wx belonging to one of the t2 techs). The message "The contents of this message cannot be displayed" appears instead of the actual sent message. I have a ticket open with sprint data support for the issue. They assure me that is a problem related to the treo700wx, however they can offer no ETA for resolution and lay the blame on palm. They insist it is something they have seen occur when sending from many 700wxs to all current ppc units. I can only report that my problems started when I began using the i830w.

    overall:

    Overall I really like it. If I can get some resolution the bugs and instability I am seeing, and if I can get A2DP working I will most likely keep it. Once the ppc-6800 arrives the i830 is going straight to ebay though. It is not much of an improvement over sprint other current PPC, it just offers a different set of compromises.

    (sorry for the crap quality pics, I rushed to take them friday night before heading out and they arnt my best work :p )
    Last edited by porcaccio; 10-09-2006 at 02:55 AM.
    10-09-2006 02:29 AM
  10. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    Can you elaborate on how you feel about the phone's one handed functionality? I went from a treo 650 to a PPC 6700 and hated it until the treo 700wx came out. the 700wx is great in all aspects except screen real estate. i never thought i would miss the 6700, but when browsing the internet, the experience is sorely lacking. however, for what we do most of the time (phone use and sms), the treo works great. so, i am wondering how you feel about the ip-830w in those regards.

    thanks in advance..
    One handed functionality after a weekend of use:

    - Not as one handed as I originally thought when I played with it for the first few hours. I say this because after using the five way to select something, sometimes after selecting that thing (whatever it is you select), you have to tap on the screen again to get the cursor back so that you can continue moving it with the five way.

    - Keyboard use is just as one handed as the Treo 700WX. It only has one "shift" key while the 700WX has two. It also has a "fn" key that works like the 700WX's key that you press to get numbers instead of letters. The IP-830W's "fn" key is located in the same place the same key is on the Treo. The single shift key on the IP-830W is located in the same place the 700WX's left shift key is.

    - The "OK" button on the Treo that closes everything is replaced by a key with a return symbol (functions the same as the 700WX's "OK" button). It still has an "OK" button on its keyboard though. Also, the Start Menu key is on the keyboard, but you can also reassign any of the non-keyboard buttons to work as the Start Menu key. You can choose single press, or long presses.

    - The keyboard on the IP-830W I think is better than the one on the 700WX. Each key on the IP-830W has a solid click when you press. Nice tactile feedback, something that wasn't great with the 700WX.

    I do miss the Today screen contacts search and web search on the 700WX. Hopefully someone will create something similar for the IP-830W. Not haveing the contacts search isn't that bad though because the Voice Signal app. makes it easy to dial a contact just by saying the contact's name or number. Voice signal also supposedly allows you to do voice dialing with bluetooth headsets, but I haven't figured out how to do it yet.
    Last edited by IsLNdbOi; 10-09-2006 at 05:20 AM.
    10-09-2006 03:23 AM
  11. KStewart's Avatar
    You guys are making me want to jump on the i830 bandwagon.
    10-09-2006 04:16 AM
  12. oalvarez's Avatar
    4 crashes, needs an extended battery, is thicker than a treo, and requires a slideout.....i suppose that takes me out of the equation....

    how heavy is it?
    10-09-2006 08:26 AM
  13. KStewart's Avatar
    4 crashes, needs an extended battery, is thicker than a treo, and requires a slideout.....i suppose that takes me out of the equation....

    how heavy is it?
    Aaaah...those are minor issues...lol
    10-09-2006 08:37 AM
  14. oalvarez's Avatar
    i don't want to get off subject but that avatar of yours.....beautiful to say the least...a work of art....
    10-09-2006 08:58 AM
  15. Big Tone's Avatar
    Are the connections the same as the i730's? I see lots of deals on accessories on eBay for the i730. If they fit this phone that will be an even bigger advantage over the wx. I saw an OEM extended battery for about $15!
    10-09-2006 12:05 PM
  16. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    Are the connections the same as the i730's? I see lots of deals on accessories on eBay for the i730. If they fit this phone that will be an even bigger advantage over the wx. I saw an OEM extended battery for about $15!
    Yes it has the same connector as the i730. I just ordered a Samsung brand \ OEM i730 cradle and it works perfectly. Cases for the i730 fit perfectly as well.
    10-09-2006 12:43 PM
  17. KStewart's Avatar
    i don't want to get off subject but that avatar of yours.....beautiful to say the least...a work of art....
    Thanks...Art is the perfect word. I just wish some others would understand the art side of things.
    10-09-2006 03:58 PM
  18. porcaccio's Avatar
    Well, I got mine today. Played around with the mechanism, the screen is good, and the build quality great. But.... I'm not seeing the increase in real estate from my 700wx that would make me want to keep it over the treo. The keyboard is quite good as well.

    Maybe I am just not wow'ed enough... It's probably going to go back quite soon....
    10-09-2006 04:39 PM
  19. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    Well, I got mine today. Played around with the mechanism, the screen is good, and the build quality great. But.... I'm not seeing the increase in real estate from my 700wx that would make me want to keep it over the treo. The keyboard is quite good as well.

    Maybe I am just not wow'ed enough... It's probably going to go back quite soon....
    How can you not see the increased screen real estate? The screen is physically bigger and it has more pixels. Did you put the two side-by-side and try loading the same website (try loading the non-mobile version of whatever site you do this test with)?

    Anyway, I'm not willing to wait for developers to get off their butts and start creating 240x240 native versions of their apps.. The IP-830W has a standard 240x320 qvga screen and 95% of all WM5 apps. have a 240x320 native version already.
    10-09-2006 05:07 PM
  20. porcaccio's Avatar
    I didn't mean it that way. What I meant is that the extra screen real estate that I seem to be getting isn't that much more. However, I will test it to see how it compares to the Treo. What is your battery life when using it as a phone?

    I think the bigger issue with not wanting to keep it has to do with the fact that I WILL upgrade to the new phones when Rev A is released, because my biggest peeve about CDMA has always been the inability to do both voice and data at the same time.
    10-09-2006 05:35 PM
  21. Big Tone's Avatar
    The Verizon i730 and i830 both came with the standard and extended battery. Does the Sprint version? I ask a lot of questions, don't I?
    10-09-2006 07:48 PM
  22. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    Yes, the Sprint IP-830W comes with:

    standard battery
    extended life battery
    stereo headset
    charger
    data cable
    10-09-2006 08:40 PM
  23. porcaccio's Avatar
    ok, so i activated the phone and am having a couple of issues, i hope someone can help me with. the unit doesn't seem to want to stay closed when i am on the phone. is there a lock somewhere?

    next, my phone calls have echo and static, which was not prevalent on my treo, on the other hand, the quality of the other person's voice seems to be much better (treo was somewhat muffled).
    10-09-2006 10:02 PM
  24. IsLNdbOi's Avatar
    What do you mean it "doesn't seem to want to stay closed"? The phone keeps sliding back up? Dunno what could be causing you to have echo and static. What apps. do you have installed?
    10-10-2006 12:09 AM
  25. porcaccio's Avatar
    It keeps sliding down when I am talking.

    I have installed.... Slingplayer, Opera, SPBackup, total commander and agile messenger.
    10-10-2006 12:27 AM
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