All this talk about Focus updates, any Surround updates yet?

[cdook]

It's rumored they lost over 300mil on the Kin so it's not exactly far fetched for them to give up on something they've invested an enormous sum of money into..

Also, that's a really long sentence.

I think the future of Microsoft's operating system business depends on them having a mobile OS. People are spending less time on computers and more time on phones, so for them to pull the plug they'd be crazy.

 

[spitothec]

well at the rate their marketshare grew from october to january, they'll be forced to pull the plug by october because they won't have any users left. being crazy and making mistakes for sometimes no reason is what microsoft is best at.. ask their home server customers.

they're hemorraging money from nearly everything they do that's consumer focused, i wouldn't be surprised if they axed their entire consumer line at some point in the future... and their OS business has very little to do with a mobile OS. when it comes to their bread and butter business, WP7 has absolutely nothing to do with it's continued use and income.

edit: a quick search brought this up for 2008 -
http://www.tannerhelland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ms-2008-operating-income.png
and from everything i'm hearing, the server and client sides are growing while their consumer and online service profits are continuing to decline.
they're pumping billions of dollars into wp7 and making next to no money on it.. they'd almost be crazy to push this envelope much further.

 

[Averry]

It's rumored they lost over 300mil on the Kin so it's not exactly far fetched for them to give up on something they've invested an enormous sum of money into..

Also, that's a really long sentence.

The Kin though is a multi-layered fail story though.

For one...J. Allard ending up leaving the company...one of the guys that Microsoft often toted as the "he gets consumers" guy. Robbie Bach ended up peacing out too....

I think the Kin would have been highly successful if they had just released it as a feature phone with wifi capabilities. How many feature phones have wifi? Pretty much none.....

So anyways. If Microsoft doesn't stick with it......they might as well fold up on the entire consumer market.

 

[Luisraul924]

Ah well then I concede that I no longer care too much the damn thing does what I want it to do and does it well so long as they support it for the two years that my contract lasts I'll be fine lol.

 

[Averry]

Ah well then I concede that I no longer care too much the damn thing does what I want it to do and does it well so long as they support it for the two years that my contract lasts I'll be fine lol.

Look, mobile is the new market. It's still really early on...and they could kill the Kin because it was really just a play at the market that lies between feature phones and smart phones which was only ever going to be temporary.

Eventually all phones sold, will be some sort of smart phone...so I dont' think Microsoft will throw in the towel unless it's part of some company oriented complete paradigm shift for them. It would be a huge effin deal. Bringing up the Kin as reason for WP7 getting yanked is just silly in my opinion. It's not even part of the equation.

I wouldn't worry about a damn thing.

 

[cdook]

Look, mobile is the new market. It's still really early on...and they could kill the Kin because it was really just a play at the market that lies between feature phones and smart phones which was only ever going to be temporary.

Eventually all phones sold, will be some sort of smart phone...so I dont' think Microsoft will throw in the towel unless it's part of some company oriented complete paradigm shift for them. It would be a huge effin deal. Bringing up the Kin as reason for WP7 getting yanked is just silly in my opinion. It's not even part of the equation.

I wouldn't worry about a damn thing.

Yea Microsoft would have to have a big shareholder meeting and say "you know what, we're not going to be doing software anymore... yes we're know for Office, Windows, WP7, .NET and XNA, but we're going to do something else." Then you'll see their stock fall through the roof. WP7 isn't going anywhere. If RIM is still making BlackBerrys then I think Microsoft can support their platform.

 

[Luisraul924]

I actually agree with both of you Averry and GaMMa but I just don't feel like arguing about it anymore. Some people here are apparently WP7 haters because they keep saying "yay WP7!" then true fanboys (like me) also say "yay WP7!" (albeit in more technical terms) then the first lot all of a sudden change their mind immediately to "Death to WP7!" and no matter what amazing points people bring up, encouraging the platform it seems they won't change their minds.