Is anti virus really worth getting for this device? With Windows 10 built in services is it really worth downloading one? I have Norton 360 or whatever they call that version now on my windows laptop but curious what's a good one for the surface pro 4 with a M3? I'm fine with Norton on my laptop partly because it has 8gb of ram ( considering upgrading to 16) and an Intel i7 with a turbo boost up to 3.5ghz. I know there is free ones from AVG but I've recently read something how they can share your info on something if you use the free one.
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CryptDevelopment
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Well first let me assure you that 9 times out of 10 Microsoft is already sharing your information and a lot of it. Same with apple and every company. But for the sake of antivirus I would go with avast. I heard they don't share to much info.
Their is a new and valid school of thought that defender being part of Windows 10 is better than ANY AV... I tend to agree it is or will be soon . That being said I am currently using ESET because its bought and paid for... However if no great deal comes about on ESET , I will next time use Defender.
The main points that make defender potentially the best (and running as a standard user) are as follows:
1.Baked in to the OS and free so it completely eliminates add -on attack vector (We have seen zero day exploits against even ESET and any other major AV as ALL need admin access and deep system access to do its job)
2. Works with windows updates and updates frequently
3. Scores high on AV tests
4, Can utilize the cloud and machine learning of all defender users making it potential as the best AV solution as Microsoft analyses over a billion transactions daily and sees the entire Internet more than any other AV vendor)
In the end the best AV is a combination of user behavior and a solid platform... No one add-on AV gives you much more than 20% protection (a bad flu shot) versus doing common sense thing like running as standard user which mitigates over 70% of threats to windows.
So in summary running as standard user + Defender + common sense (don't click on everything) + windows 10 should get you to near 100% protection making add-on AVs potentially worse.
The main points that make defender potentially the best (and running as a standard user) are as follows:
1.Baked in to the OS and free so it completely eliminates add -on attack vector (We have seen zero day exploits against even ESET and any other major AV as ALL need admin access and deep system access to do its job)
2. Works with windows updates and updates frequently
3. Scores high on AV tests
4, Can utilize the cloud and machine learning of all defender users making it potential as the best AV solution as Microsoft analyses over a billion transactions daily and sees the entire Internet more than any other AV vendor)
In the end the best AV is a combination of user behavior and a solid platform... No one add-on AV gives you much more than 20% protection (a bad flu shot) versus doing common sense thing like running as standard user which mitigates over 70% of threats to windows.
So in summary running as standard user + Defender + common sense (don't click on everything) + windows 10 should get you to near 100% protection making add-on AVs potentially worse.
At work, since Windows 8 we've been pretty much just recommending Defender to our homeowner customers (meaning not business customers). We used to sell 3rd party antivirus software, but Defender is good enough in our experience.
Arunabha Goswami
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I've been using the free edition of Avast since forever. Never had a problem with it. Also it has a light footprint.
Good I am looking for a light footprint. I like Norton but it's footprint isn't light but my laptop has the specs to handle it so I don't mind it.
Free Avast is good I've had it forever. If you put up with it trying to sell you the full version on occasion.
AVG free has never let me down and far less intrusive than Norton or McAfree
The paid version also gives you data safe for hiding personal files etc and mounts like a drive for easy viewing, drag and drop etc
The paid version also gives you data safe for hiding personal files etc and mounts like a drive for easy viewing, drag and drop etc
CanadianGuy_eH
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Before upgrading to Windows10 on my PC, I used a combination avg free & spybot S&D never had a problem, now only using avg free on my Windows10.. So far so good!
Arunabha Goswami
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If you don't go looking for trouble, you might not need a A/V program at all. Can't remember the last time Avast/Defender caught something in my PC.
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I use a combination of Kaspersky Anti Virus and a software called superantispyware. I found out a couple of years back that KAV couldn't detect properly the viruses or spyware that would come from websites. This porgram would remove all unwanted cookies and other crazy stuff.
KAV is for the proper viruses and trojans and whatnot. Especially disinfecting from flash drives and such
KAV is for the proper viruses and trojans and whatnot. Especially disinfecting from flash drives and such
For some reason whenever I'm on YouTube it wants to download something and Norton catches it. Hasn't happened in a while so who knows.
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I read a nice article where Anti Virus programs are more of a risk and expose users to exploits. Think about it, you give this program a lot of access, if a hacker finds an exploit in the code they can get in through this way. I think arstechnica had an article ages ago.
*Keep windows 10 updated. The built in virus scanner should be sufficient. The windows 10 version was actually rated pretty high compared to others.
*Don't download executable files that aren't from a good source and request administrator rights to run.
*Get only legit stuff. Pirated games are sometimes known to be injected with malware/viruses. Maybe not the original people that release it but it gets modified out in the world where it's spreading.
*Keep the firewall up. If you are worried you can go to advanced settings and add more rules as well as which apps have access to which network.
*Protect yourself with router, enable SPI in the router for more protection. Lock it down with no outside remote access a tough password and disable WPS for wifi.
*Keep windows 10 updated. The built in virus scanner should be sufficient. The windows 10 version was actually rated pretty high compared to others.
*Don't download executable files that aren't from a good source and request administrator rights to run.
*Get only legit stuff. Pirated games are sometimes known to be injected with malware/viruses. Maybe not the original people that release it but it gets modified out in the world where it's spreading.
*Keep the firewall up. If you are worried you can go to advanced settings and add more rules as well as which apps have access to which network.
*Protect yourself with router, enable SPI in the router for more protection. Lock it down with no outside remote access a tough password and disable WPS for wifi.
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