App's too big

StephanW

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Maybe this is just me but I really doubt it. I've got the Nokia 1320 and ditched my iPhone 4S. Something fancy and totally different. One thing is a little too much different for me, let me explain:

On iOS every single app is beautifully designed with care of every pixel. This means, it looks how you expect it to look.
On the Nokia 1320 some apps seem to be designed by someone without the UI understandings. Take the Twitter app, it's huge top bar, why's that?

So is this just because WP8 is "new" or is this because Twitter just made one app for WP and just didn't care about the fact you've got multiple devices? I'm so glad I haven't got the 1520 because if for that money I'd had these apps I'd go crazy.
 
I really have the impression that Twitter just threw together its latest Windows Phone app haphazardly, with no consideration for design or even functionality. ☹

Beside the displeasing appearance, notifications are buggy. I get duplicates of each Twitter notification in my action centre, which doesn't happen with 3rd party Twitter apps such as Twabbit and MeTweets.
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The Facebook application isn't much better either.

The native apps, such as phone and messages are quite okay. Those apps show the potential of the phone and the screen. But the rest sucks, really sucks. Is that it's too hard to create a really good Twitter and Facebook app or is it something else?

P.S. I'll try your Twitter suggestions.
 
Really? Please feel free to tell me why you love it.

If Microsoft want's their App Store to become big they should act like Apple. I know everyone in the world without an Apple device sort of hates the App Store because they control the apps coming in. But at least you know every app looks and functions the same. The Windows Phone app from WPCentral is a good example: Good app. Good layout and clear. WP would be a lot better if all apps had that layout and function, luckily a some of them do.
 
I love the new FB Beta because it's much more responsive than the old version. It also now supports emoji and I'm really enjoying how the top bar disappears while scrolling to save room, although that's not everyone's cup of tea I'm sure.

Oh, and being able to view comments on the same page as pictures is also pretty convenient.
 
Don't you get "annoyed" by the fact it looks different than the other apps?

Yes, it's much better than the standard version of Facebook. But is it an app you really like to use? I really don't. I won't say I'd rather go to the website in Internet Explorer but I nearly do. And there's no alternative. There are for Twitter and such, but for Facebook there's this only option.

And I don't see why Facebook can't integrate the Metro UI in the app.
 
App development is something completely different then a app designer.
Just like a housearchitect and a builder.
Some developers are lousy designers and vv

There is no uniform or unity.
Older apps who are written for the "old standard" of 4" looks often blowen up or stretched out to fit the larger size phones.
Same as the older apps on android, who where written for the 3.5" inch devices.
If Apple going to follow the mainstream with bigger devices they will probably heading for the same problem.
Older apps abandend by there developers are not getting updated to fit the larger screens.

Next to that, the most app desingers on the windows platform trying to keep the minimalistic or flat looks of Wp in there apps.

I dont know how many buttons, bars and icons i have drawn over the years.
I know from experience that if you use the looks and feels of a android app (a specialy the looks ),
in a wp app you get the typicaly ieuw look.it just dont blend in in the rest of the interface.
Vice verca its exactly the same.

You have the one who thinks of a app, but cant write code.....his idea goes to a developer

The problems a developer or a designer can face is how to translate thoughts in to reality.......
I tel you a short story of my problems to give you a idea.
A long time ago i came up with a app idea..........before the smartphones where mainstream so the term app
is somewhat out of context.
I build it as a simple excel spreadsheet, and it worked.
Lateron the pda's came and right after that the first WM smartphones.
So i had to rewrite this spreadsheet to maintain his function, but i had to let go of the looks in order to let it work.

Not long after that, the android phones became common good.
But Droid cant handle excelsheets because of the macro's.
So i needed to rewrite the darn thing in to a code i could not comprehence.
And to learn code for just one little idea ....no thanks, i learned some basic tricks but thats all.
So i needed a developer, and where do you find one, yep on the user platforms like XDA and WPCentral.
But that just one hump to take, eventually i found one.
Now i had to translate my idea on a "piece of paper" in the form of private messages in a language that isnt my own.
Two humps further.
That guy or girl has to understand exactly what you mean, how it works and how its going to look.
So its very basic at first.
Its all happend in spare time so it takes a while before you see results.
Your are depending on the developers skills,
can he write the code to let it function and can he write the code to give it the looks. ( two seperate things ).
Becouse of the ongoing development of the operatingsystem, things changes.
So you have to make some compromizes.
Do you want to have a "looker" that crashes ore have the half of the functionality, or keep it basic and trustworthy.
Finaly when its ready........you can throw it in the store, but .........
Who's app is it, is it the developer or is it the one who thought or came up with it, minor details but stil.
The app is stil under construction...........and private ;-)

But thats just one platform, in this case its droid.
But i whanted it on WP also, otherwhise i have no use for it for myself.
So i search again for a developer ( Droid developers are not necessarily WP developers, differand code ).
The whole thing started all over again.
I finaly found a developer here on wpc and he did a good job.
But he also chose for the minimalistic looks of WP, thats the choice i thinks its for the developer.
The only thing i can do is agree or disagree, but its stil teamwork between ( and thats the beauty of this all ) people who not even met each other before, completely strangers who doesnt even speak the same languages and stil they working to gether over a long distance ( try that 15 years ago ;-) )
Because of that and to the love of there and our hobby i don't want to push to mutch of the way it looks.
Its a hell better then it was before.
The WP app is finished the only thing is now is the Droid app, but its comming its not realy perfect but still.
There where some new ideas on there way, so they had to be intergrated in the existing appcode.

So taking this in the back of my head, i don't complain when a certain app is "out of sync".
Things are diferant when you talking about the corporated professional appbuilders who are doing it for a living.

So you see, its not something what you just pul out your sleeve in five minutes.
 
Thanks for clearing up. I really do see your point, the point made from the developers view. Which is important to take in count in my issue regarding Windows Phone's apps. However I'm not a developer I'm just a user. All I see is the screen without any line of code at all ...

I must first say that the issue I got isn't with small apps. I understand that making an app is hard.

But the Twitter and Facebook app should be rocking straight away on the Windows Phone. Right? Those companies, money making machines want their users to have the best Facebook or Twitter experience on any device, with the iPhone on top, it seems like Windows Phone get's forgotten. Luckily I find more and more apps who are satisfying.
 
But the Twitter and Facebook app should be rocking straight away on the Windows Phone. Right? Those companies, money making machines want their users to have the best Facebook or Twitter experience on any device.

I certainly agree with that.......
There has being time enought
 
Thanks for clearing up. I really do see your point, the point made from the developers view. Which is important to take in count in my issue regarding Windows Phone's apps. However I'm not a developer I'm just a user. All I see is the screen without any line of code at all ...

I must first say that the issue I got isn't with small apps. I understand that making an app is hard.

But the Twitter and Facebook app should be rocking straight away on the Windows Phone. Right? Those companies, money making machines want their users to have the best Facebook or Twitter experience on any device, with the iPhone on top, it seems like Windows Phone get's forgotten. Luckily I find more and more apps who are satisfying.

Try Facebook BETA and Mehdoh for Twitter.
 

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