CarrierIQ Spyware (Seems Very Nasty)

[Big Supes]

General question... regarding Windows Phones, who would have the final say whether or not a carriers are allowed to install CIQ's? Microsoft?

 

[thed]

General question... regarding Windows Phones, who would have the final say whether or not a carriers are allowed to install CIQ's? Microsoft?

I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.

 

[aubreyq]

I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.

Sounds about right.

 

[Big Supes]

I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.

This is what I was thinking, which leads me to my next question... how the **** did they manage to get it on the iPhone?

 

[fisci]

This is what I was thinking, which leads me to my next question... how the **** did they manage to get it on the iPhone?

apple put it on ios themselves..

I'm surprised they aren't selling it as a feature yet

"we'll teach you how to hold your phone, then boost your phones IQ with carrier IQ!"

 

[aubreyq]

apple put it on ios themselves..

That would be the only way!

 

[Ivan006]

I'm not surprised. I can see this happening for all smartphones.

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[Big Supes]

apple put it on ios themselves..

I'm surprised they aren't selling it as a feature yet

"we'll teach you how to hold your phone, then boost your phones IQ with carrier IQ!"

PMSL. That would be right!

I'm not sure what's worse... being so open that you don't mind carriers putting it on or putting it on yourself?!?

 

[pseudoware]

Apple must have consented to CIQ in their devices. Fortunately, it supposed to only run when the Diagnostic setting is set to send data and is easy to disable.

AT&T has confirmed the HTC Vivid, one of the new LTE phones, ships w/CIQ, but of course it's likely not the only one. ****, the device I'm tapping on right now probably has it.

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[aubreyq]

PMSL. That would be right!

I'm not sure what's worse... being so open that you don't mind carriers putting it on or putting it on yourself?!?

One would think putting it on yourself is worse but Apple, PR geniuses that they are, would find a way to spin this and say "we put it on but we control what it collects." Since people still trust Apple (I actually trust Apple way more than Google, btw), Apple will come out clean.

 

[Blacklac]

Since this is a CarrierIQ thread, here's a link to discussion about it for Blackberry's if anyone is interested:

http://forums.crackberry.com/general-discussion-f2/carrier-iq-spyware-blackberrys-too-674331/

Someone did manually install it on an old BB (they have Blackberry OTA software right on their (CIQ) website), he said it was clearly visible as a third party App and it asked for tons of Permissions, however no Icon. I think its safe to say, if its on Blackberry's, its pretty easy to find.

 

[Pronk]

The iOS version seems to be related only to when the phone is in diagnostic mode, and by default is off and not tracking anything at all, any of the time. iOS logs also store much less info than Android anyway, so even if Apple did install it it seems to (a) do nothing 99% of the time and (b) seeing as it's a diagnostic tool only active in diagnostic mode, actually be being used for legit purposes anyway.

As opposed to logging every keystroke you make all the time, for example.

 

[fisci]

The iOS version seems to be related only to when the phone is in diagnostic mode, and by default is off and not tracking anything at all, any of the time. iOS logs also store much less info than Android anyway, so even if Apple did install it it seems to (a) do nothing 99% of the time and (b) seeing as it's a diagnostic tool only active in diagnostic mode, actually be being used for legit purposes anyway.

As opposed to logging every keystroke you make all the time, for example.

who knows how valid that is, and how much if it is media bias...

Seems like any time apple screws up the media turns it into something good they are doing for the good of the planet lol

 

[Dave Blake]

The iOS version seems to be related only to when the phone is in diagnostic mode, and by default is off and not tracking anything at all, any of the time. iOS logs also store much less info than Android anyway, so even if Apple did install it it seems to (a) do nothing 99% of the time and (b) seeing as it's a diagnostic tool only active in diagnostic mode, actually be being used for legit purposes anyway.

As opposed to logging every keystroke you make all the time, for example.

source your information please

 

[pseudoware]

Here's a recent summary on all platforms:

Carrier IQ On iPhone, Android, BlackBerry, Windows Phone: Which Devices Have Controversial 'Tracking' Software?

My favorite lines:

"Windows Phone appears to be totally free of Carrier IQ"

"Interestingly, the only devices found to be entirely free of Carrier ID are Google’s Nexus products and Windows Phone 7"

 

[Big Supes]

One would think putting it on yourself is worse but Apple, PR geniuses that they are, would find a way to spin this and say "we put it on but we control what it collects." Since people still trust Apple (I actually trust Apple way more than Google, btw), Apple will come out clean.

Talking with others in other corners of the tinternet, I was informed that Google don't have any control over what the carriers put on their handsets; they operate under a apache license. As for Apple, I wonder why they didn't just implement the data recording software themselves?

 

[palandri]

With the Patriot Act in the U.S., I thought all carriers were required now to keep logs of all phone calls, internet sites visited and emails for so many days.

 

[Blacklac]

This is getting really interesting.

Senate gives Carrier IQ until December 14th to address privacy concerns

 

[Blacklac]

With the Patriot Act in the U.S., I thought all carriers were required now to keep logs of all phone calls, internet sites visited and emails for so many days.

did you see the video of what it was logging? Every single keystroke. Even for HTTPS data.

 

[1jaxstate1]

I wish MS had it so ATT would see how ****ty my 3G service is!